Kavanaugh Accuser Won't Testify

[blackhawk]

Wouldn't one have to file a criminal complaint first before any investigation could be started? If one was filed wouldn't it fall on local law enforcement to investigate it not the FBI assuming of course the statute of limitation has not expired?

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

 

[dcbl]

It was obviously dem drama. However thats besides the point

it is not beside the point

this is all political theatre and the dems are getting a black eye with independent voters that they need over this

Kavanaugh is a guy with impeccable credentials and high character

Repubs played politics with Garland, but they did it within the framework of Constitutional authority and Senate rules. They did not prop up some lying skank to make fallacious accusations - huge difference

This is obviously about the balance of power on SCOTUS, nothing more, nothing less

But they are willing to destroy a good man's life and his family

 

[Asclepias]

Wouldn't one have to file a criminal complaint first before any investigation could be started? If one was filed wouldn't it fall on local law enforcement to investigate it not the FBI assuming of course the statute of limitation has not expired?

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

Did she change her story or did someone get it wrong the first time? No it wouldnt have been known and looked into because she didnt want to go public with the accusations at first. Not much they are going to be able to get out of a unwilling witness to a non crime they had no jurisdiction to investigate.

 

[Asclepias]

It was obviously dem drama. However thats besides the point

it is not beside the point

this is all political theatre and the dems are getting a lack eye with independent voters that they need

Kavanaugh is a guy with impeccable credentials and high character

Repubs ayed politics with Garland, but they did it within the framework of Constitutional authority and Senate rules. They did not prop up some lying skank to make fallacious accusations huge difference

This is obviously about the balance of power on SCOTUS, nothing more, nothing less

But they are willing to destroy a good man's life and his family

Bullshit and yes its besides the point.

If Kav was a guy with impeccable credentials and high character he would be first in line demanding an investigation to clear his name. The fact he has not pushed an investigation to clear his name tells me he is dirty.

 

[Yarddog]

Wouldn't one have to file a criminal complaint first before any investigation could be started? If one was filed wouldn't it fall on local law enforcement to investigate it not the FBI assuming of course the statute of limitation has not expired?

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Thats a bunch of bullshit and you know it. Its going to be a dog and pony show that will go something like this.....

"You sexually assaulted me"
"No I didnt."
"Yes you did"
"No i didnt"

Ok people. Confirmation will be held tomorrow since we cant tell who is lying.

Really? I dont think so. After 35 years theres even less chance the FBI can prove a damn thing. At least the woman can confront him to his face then if he cracks people will make a decision off of that.
What exactly is the FBI suppossed to come up with? even if they were both at the same party, it proves nothing unless you have some real evidence. After 35 years all it comes down to is both of their words.
It's just a judgement call people have to make.

Unless you have other women coming forward... something in his rulings that points to a defect in his character.. it all comes down to who is more believable.

 

[Yarddog]

Wouldn't one have to file a criminal complaint first before any investigation could be started? If one was filed wouldn't it fall on local law enforcement to investigate it not the FBI assuming of course the statute of limitation has not expired?

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

She won't testify under oath because she is not an idiot, lying skank? Yes idiot, no.

She would likely be brought up on perjury charges, as she has changed her story so much, hard to keep that many lies straight and under oath is serious stuff

This political play looks to be winding down in failure, and it has absolutely hurt democrat chances for the midterms in purple areas where it matters

how did she change her story? I missed that part

 

[Asclepias]

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Thats a bunch of bullshit and you know it. Its going to be a dog and pony show that will go something like this.....

"You sexually assaulted me"
"No I didnt."
"Yes you did"
"No i didnt"

Ok people. Confirmation will be held tomorrow since we cant tell who is lying.

Really? I dont think so. After 35 years theres even less chance the FBI can prove a damn thing. At least the woman can confront him to his face then if he cracks people will make a decision off of that.
What exactly is the FBI suppossed to come up with? even if they were both at the same party, it proves nothing unless you have some real evidence. After 35 years all it comes down to is both of their words.
It's just a judgement call people have to make.

Unless you have other women coming forward... something in his rulings that points to a defect in his character.. it all comes down to who is more believable.

All they have to prove is one of them is lying. In Kavs case he said he was never at the party which is odd because she cant remember which party.

 

[blackhawk]

Wouldn't one have to file a criminal complaint first before any investigation could be started? If one was filed wouldn't it fall on local law enforcement to investigate it not the FBI assuming of course the statute of limitation has not expired?

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

Did she change her story or did someone get it wrong the first time? No it wouldnt have been known and looked into because she didnt want to go public with the accusations at first. Not much they are going to be able to get out of a unwilling witness to a non crime they had no jurisdiction to investigate.

I see so no one wanted to go public when there would have been time to do an actual investigation but now right before Kavanaugh was going to confirmed to the Court and just a little over a month before the midterms these same people now want to come foreward and have delays and investigations. That is plain as it gets partisan horseshit.

 

[Asclepias]

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

She won't testify under oath because she is not an idiot, lying skank? Yes idiot, no.

She would likely be brought up on perjury charges, as she has changed her story so much, hard to keep that many lies straight and under oath is serious stuff

This political play looks to be winding down in failure, and it has absolutely hurt democrat chances for the midterms in purple areas where it matters

how did she change her story? I missed that part

Me too.

 

[Asclepias]

Nope. Its not a criminal investigation. Statute of limitations has long expired.

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

Did she change her story or did someone get it wrong the first time? No it wouldnt have been known and looked into because she didnt want to go public with the accusations at first. Not much they are going to be able to get out of a unwilling witness to a non crime they had no jurisdiction to investigate.

I see so no one wanted to go public when there would have been time to do an actual investigation but now right before Kavanaugh was going to confirmed to the Court and just a little over a month before the midterms these same people now want to come foreward and have delays and investigations. That is plain as it gets partisan horseshit.

Whats the hurry? If they investigate it immediately its over before the elections.

 

[dcbl]

It was obviously dem drama. However thats besides the point

it is not beside the point

this is all political theatre and the dems are getting a lack eye with independent voters that they need

Kavanaugh is a guy with impeccable credentials and high character

Repubs ayed politics with Garland, but they did it within the framework of Constitutional authority and Senate rules. They did not prop up some lying skank to make fallacious accusations huge difference

This is obviously about the balance of power on SCOTUS, nothing more, nothing less

But they are willing to destroy a good man's life and his family

Bullshit and yes its besides the point.

If Kav was a guy with impeccable credentials and high character he would be first in line demanding an investigation to clear his name. The fact he has not pushed an investigation to clear his name tells me he is dirty.

An in estimation into what?

She is just making shit up

Where did this happen? She says she does not know

When did this happen? Same story, she is not sure

How did she get there? Who was she with? Does she have any corroborating witnesses?

There is nothing to investigate, there is not even a crime alleged

My apologies for calling you stupid, seems like that was unfair, you are simply being obtuse and happy to join in the clown show...

 

[Yarddog]

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Thats a bunch of bullshit and you know it. Its going to be a dog and pony show that will go something like this.....

"You sexually assaulted me"
"No I didnt."
"Yes you did"
"No i didnt"

Ok people. Confirmation will be held tomorrow since we cant tell who is lying.

Really? I dont think so. After 35 years theres even less chance the FBI can prove a damn thing. At least the woman can confront him to his face then if he cracks people will make a decision off of that.
What exactly is the FBI suppossed to come up with? even if they were both at the same party, it proves nothing unless you have some real evidence. After 35 years all it comes down to is both of their words.
It's just a judgement call people have to make.

Unless you have other women coming forward... something in his rulings that points to a defect in his character.. it all comes down to who is more believable.

All they have to prove is one of them is lying. In Kavs case he said he was never at the party which is odd because she cant remember which party.

Its hard to prove that being Incorrect after 35 years is actually Lying though.

 

[dcbl]

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

She won't testify under oath because she is not an idiot, lying skank? Yes idiot, no.

She would likely be brought up on perjury charges, as she has changed her story so much, hard to keep that many lies straight and under oath is serious stuff

This political play looks to be winding down in failure, and it has absolutely hurt democrat chances for the midterms in purple areas where it matters

how did she change her story? I missed that part

Me too.

How many boys were in the room?

 

[Asclepias]

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Thats a bunch of bullshit and you know it. Its going to be a dog and pony show that will go something like this.....

"You sexually assaulted me"
"No I didnt."
"Yes you did"
"No i didnt"

Ok people. Confirmation will be held tomorrow since we cant tell who is lying.

Really? I dont think so. After 35 years theres even less chance the FBI can prove a damn thing. At least the woman can confront him to his face then if he cracks people will make a decision off of that.
What exactly is the FBI suppossed to come up with? even if they were both at the same party, it proves nothing unless you have some real evidence. After 35 years all it comes down to is both of their words.
It's just a judgement call people have to make.

Unless you have other women coming forward... something in his rulings that points to a defect in his character.. it all comes down to who is more believable.

All they have to prove is one of them is lying. In Kavs case he said he was never at the party which is odd because she cant remember which party.

Its hard to prove that being Incorrect after 35 years is actually Lying though.

If you emphatically say you were not at the party she was and its found out you were then you are definitely lying. Like I said, how can you deny you were at a party that she doesnt even remember was the one in question?

 

[Asclepias]

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

She won't testify under oath because she is not an idiot, lying skank? Yes idiot, no.

She would likely be brought up on perjury charges, as she has changed her story so much, hard to keep that many lies straight and under oath is serious stuff

This political play looks to be winding down in failure, and it has absolutely hurt democrat chances for the midterms in purple areas where it matters

how did she change her story? I missed that part

Me too.

How many boys were in the room?

Last I heard was 4 including Kav.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Now the woman want testified unless the FBI investigate!

Crazy!

She does't remember anything! But she was there! The other person refuses to testify!

Plum bat shit crazy!

The FBI does not investigate high school kiss and tell stories.

 

[dcbl]

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Thats a bunch of bullshit and you know it. Its going to be a dog and pony show that will go something like this.....

"You sexually assaulted me"
"No I didnt."
"Yes you did"
"No i didnt"

Ok people. Confirmation will be held tomorrow since we cant tell who is lying.

Really? I dont think so. After 35 years theres even less chance the FBI can prove a damn thing. At least the woman can confront him to his face then if he cracks people will make a decision off of that.
What exactly is the FBI suppossed to come up with? even if they were both at the same party, it proves nothing unless you have some real evidence. After 35 years all it comes down to is both of their words.
It's just a judgement call people have to make.

Unless you have other women coming forward... something in his rulings that points to a defect in his character.. it all comes down to who is more believable.

All they have to prove is one of them is lying. In Kavs case he said he was never at the party which is odd because she cant remember which party.

Its hard to prove that being Incorrect after 35 years is actually Lying though.

Good point, maybe she was blacked out drunk or drugged up and was hallucinating, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on that

 

[blackhawk]

Then what exactly is being called for here? The FBI has done and completed background check, security check whatever you want to call it on Kavanaugh when he was first nominated if this allegation was not covered by it then that is on Senator Feinstein for not passing the letter she recieved on this on to the FBI the one she has had since July. If she had the FBI would have had time look into this determine if there was anything to it and both parties could have given their side of the story during Kavanaugh's Senate Judicary Committee hearing.

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

Did she change her story or did someone get it wrong the first time? No it wouldnt have been known and looked into because she didnt want to go public with the accusations at first. Not much they are going to be able to get out of a unwilling witness to a non crime they had no jurisdiction to investigate.

I see so no one wanted to go public when there would have been time to do an actual investigation but now right before Kavanaugh was going to confirmed to the Court and just a little over a month before the midterms these same people now want to come foreward and have delays and investigations. That is plain as it gets partisan horseshit.

Whats the hurry? If they investigate it immediately its over before the elections.

How do you quickly investigate something that allegedly happened almost 40 years ago? If they did investigate and quickly came back before the midterms and said they could find nothing to support the womans claim the left would claim they ended the investigation to soon and need to investigate more.

 

[dcbl]

What they are saying is let the woman have her fair say. Let the accused face his accuser. Then if you want an investigation go ahead and have it. Why does this accuser call the shots? what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

She won't testify under oath because she is not an idiot, lying skank? Yes idiot, no.

She would likely be brought up on perjury charges, as she has changed her story so much, hard to keep that many lies straight and under oath is serious stuff

This political play looks to be winding down in failure, and it has absolutely hurt democrat chances for the midterms in purple areas where it matters

how did she change her story? I missed that part

Me too.

How many boys were in the room?

Last I heard was 4 including Kav.

She has also claimed just 2 in the room

 

[Asclepias]

Another check to investigate the claims that they knew nothing about when they investigated him previously. Also an investigation into Judge, the 3 other people that were allegedly there and the woman. Why are repubs so eager to put a potential sexual predator on the SC?

First the woman has changed her story and claims there was only one other person there and he has said he doesn't recall the incident the accuser is talking about and as I already stated it would have been known and looked into if Diane Feinstein had not sat on the letter she was in possession of until she thought making it public would benefit her and the Democrats in the midterms. Republicans see this for exactly what it is a political power play and pretty obvious one at that.

Did she change her story or did someone get it wrong the first time? No it wouldnt have been known and looked into because she didnt want to go public with the accusations at first. Not much they are going to be able to get out of a unwilling witness to a non crime they had no jurisdiction to investigate.

I see so no one wanted to go public when there would have been time to do an actual investigation but now right before Kavanaugh was going to confirmed to the Court and just a little over a month before the midterms these same people now want to come foreward and have delays and investigations. That is plain as it gets partisan horseshit.

Whats the hurry? If they investigate it immediately its over before the elections.

How do you quickly investigate something that allegedly happened almost 40 years ago? If they did investigate and quickly came back before the midterms and said they could find nothing to support the womans claim the left would claim they ended the investigation to soon and need to investigate more.

You involve the FBI. They can mobilize resources that would have your head spinning. Doesnt matter what the dems claim. It was investigated and they dont have the votes to stop the confirmation.