Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[2aguy]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

We don't teach children how to kill and maim with guns...Some teach their children how to provide food with their guns, and others teach children how to responsibly use guns, and others teach them how to use guns for self defense.....

Then, in democrat controlled cities, in single mother headed households, where a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl has male children whose only adult male role models will be sociapaths in gangs....

That is the culture you need to change.....the others are just fine.

I'm not coming down on hunters only. Kids are being taught violence in general. But it is time for hunters to reconsider handing their children guns. Teaching them to kill and maim seems unnecessary nowadays.

Maybe when they become adults, you hand em a gun and teach them about hunting. But not when they're children. Society's already bombarding them enough with violence. Handing them a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi, is an ugly violent act. It's not necessary. Time to change our ways. No more promoting violence to children.

Teaching children where food comes from is not wrong. Teaching them to provide for themselves is not wrong either......Why do you focus on normal people......put more effort into the democrat inner cities where they have gang breeding grounds and where you actually have real violence......every day.....

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

We don't teach children how to kill and maim with guns...Some teach their children how to provide food with their guns, and others teach children how to responsibly use guns, and others teach them how to use guns for self defense.....

Then, in democrat controlled cities, in single mother headed households, where a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl has male children whose only adult male role models will be sociapaths in gangs....

That is the culture you need to change.....the others are just fine.

I'm not coming down on hunters only. Kids are being taught violence in general. But it is time for hunters to reconsider handing their children guns. Teaching them to kill and maim seems unnecessary nowadays.

Maybe when they become adults, you hand em a gun and teach them about hunting. But not when they're children. Society's already bombarding them enough with violence. Handing them a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi, is an ugly violent act. It's not necessary. Time to change our ways. No more promoting violence to children.

Teaching children where food comes from is not wrong. Teaching them to provide for themselves is not wrong either......Why do you focus on normal people......put more effort into the democrat inner cities where they have gang breeding grounds and where you actually have real violence......every day.....

You can do those things without handing a child a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi. And like i said, i'm not coming down on hunters only. But hunters do hand children guns and teach them violence. It is what it is.

I think it's fine to teach them about hunting when they become adults. But handing them firearms so early in life just seems unwise and unnecessary. We live in very different times. We have to accept that.

 

[Ernie S.]

Do I NEED 100? No, but I want 250. How is that obsessive?
Let's suppose I had a 9x12 foot bank vault here and you saw me in public. Would you know I was a gun owner? What about me would tell you I had a vault with 1,000 weapons and a million rounds of ammo?

Hey, if you equate 'collecting' hundreds of firearms with collecting stamps, i probably can't help you. Don't know anyone who would be concerned with someone having hundreds of stamps. But hundreds of guns? Yeah, i think that could be of concern to many.

What makes a person having many guns any more dangerous than a person who owns one?

More, less, who knows? But if you have 200 guns, you probably are just a tad bit obsessed. And personally, i don't feel being gun-obsessed is healthy. I'm a gun owner saying that.

So, you STILL can't describe what a gun obsessed asshole looks or acts like.

The point is, if you saw me on the street, you would have no idea how many guns I had and more importantly, what I am likely to do with them.

Just giving you another side of the story. Most people don't see you having 200 guns as being normal. And like i said earlier, i sold guns for a time. I know gun owners better than most.

I got to a point where i did have to question whether or not many of them should have firearms. I soon got out of the gun selling business. I saw firsthand what gun-obsessed addicts look like. It's pretty ugly.

I know gun owners probably as well as you. THEY are the kind of people I choose to associate with.
I suppose that everyone I know is a gun-obsessed asshole.

WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE?

For Christ sake! Why the fuck is it so difficult for you to answer a simple question. I've seen you avoid answering a half dozen times.

Do you have a comprehension problem?

Or what?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

 

[2aguy]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

 

[paulitician]

Hey, if you equate 'collecting' hundreds of firearms with collecting stamps, i probably can't help you. Don't know anyone who would be concerned with someone having hundreds of stamps. But hundreds of guns? Yeah, i think that could be of concern to many.

What makes a person having many guns any more dangerous than a person who owns one?

More, less, who knows? But if you have 200 guns, you probably are just a tad bit obsessed. And personally, i don't feel being gun-obsessed is healthy. I'm a gun owner saying that.

So, you STILL can't describe what a gun obsessed asshole looks or acts like.

The point is, if you saw me on the street, you would have no idea how many guns I had and more importantly, what I am likely to do with them.

Just giving you another side of the story. Most people don't see you having 200 guns as being normal. And like i said earlier, i sold guns for a time. I know gun owners better than most.

I got to a point where i did have to question whether or not many of them should have firearms. I soon got out of the gun selling business. I saw firsthand what gun-obsessed addicts look like. It's pretty ugly.

I know gun owners probably as well as you. THEY are the kind of people I choose to associate with.
I suppose that everyone I know is a gun-obsessed asshole.

WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE?

For Christ sake! Why the fuck is it so difficult for you to answer a simple question. I've seen you avoid answering a half dozen times.

Do you have a comprehension problem?

Or what?

Never said all gun owners were gun-obsessed assholes. I'm a gun owner myself. I said too many are. And i know that because i used to sell guns. I know gun owners better than most do. Too many have an unhealthy obsession with guns. I found many of em to be very angry paranoid people.

I'm just telling you my firsthand experiences selling guns. Many of them shouldn't have had firearms. I regret selling many of em guns. I eventually got out of the gun selling business.

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

 

[2aguy]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

The culture problem we have is in our inner cities....most of the 8,454 deaths happen because of career criminals located in small, multi block areas in these cities......focus on that and 90% of gun murder will be stopped.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

We can keep,a lot of guns out of the hands of criminals by baring democrats from having guns.

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

We live in very different times. Handing a child a firearm and teaching them to kill and maim Bambi is unwise and unnecessary. It's a brutal violent act. Teach em hunting when they become adults. We have to stop handing children firearms.

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

The culture problem we have is in our inner cities....most of the 8,454 deaths happen because of career criminals located in small, multi block areas in these cities......focus on that and 90% of gun murder will be stopped.

The culture problem is everywhere. Kids are exposed to so much violence these days. Let's not make it worse by continuing to hand them firearms. And i know that upsets hunters, but it is time for change. Some traditions need to pass.

 

[2aguy]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

We live in very different times. Handing a child a firearm and teaching them to kill and maim Bambi is unwise and unnecessary. It's a brutal violent act. Teach em hunting when they become adults. We have to stop handing children firearms.

Yeah...it isn't the kids who were taught hunting that are going into their schools and shooting people, it isn't kids who are taught hunting doing drive bys every day....do you think those inner city gang bangers gear up for November deer season? No....the problem is single teenage mothers and generations of children raising children with no mature adults teaching them to be civilized and how to not kill other people....

 

[2aguy]

We can keep,a lot of guns out of the hands of criminals by baring democrats from having guns.

I have an article that points out that most of the gun murders occur in counties that voted for obama....

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

The culture problem we have is in our inner cities....most of the 8,454 deaths happen because of career criminals located in small, multi block areas in these cities......focus on that and 90% of gun murder will be stopped.

It's actually mostly white suburban nutball kids who shoot up schools. How and where did they get their firearms to carry out their massacres?

 

[Ernie S.]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

We don't teach children how to kill and maim with guns...Some teach their children how to provide food with their guns, and others teach children how to responsibly use guns, and others teach them how to use guns for self defense.....

Then, in democrat controlled cities, in single mother headed households, where a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl has male children whose only adult male role models will be sociapaths in gangs....

That is the culture you need to change.....the others are just fine.

I'm not coming down on hunters only. Kids are being taught violence in general. But it is time for hunters to reconsider handing their children guns. Teaching them to kill and maim seems unnecessary nowadays.

Maybe when they become adults, you hand em a gun and teach them about hunting. But not when they're children. Society's already bombarding them enough with violence. Handing them a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi, is an ugly violent act. It's not necessary. Time to change our ways. No more promoting violence to children.

Teaching children where food comes from is not wrong. Teaching them to provide for themselves is not wrong either......Why do you focus on normal people......put more effort into the democrat inner cities where they have gang breeding grounds and where you actually have real violence......every day.....

You can do those things without handing a child a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi. And like i said, i'm not coming down on hunters only. But hunters do hand children guns and teach them violence. It is what it is.

I think it's fine to teach them about hunting when they become adults. But handing them firearms so early in life just seems unwise and unnecessary. We live in very different times. We have to accept that.

Bambi is FOOD, dammit. I was taught gun safety and use, starting when I was 8 years old. I started hunting at 12.... got my first deer at 14. I've never shot a man not robbed a convenience store.
One of the most important lessons I ever learned was when my father showed me a deer he had shot in the head with a 12 gauge slug.
Everything above the eyes was gone. I saw optic nerves and half a brain.
I was 7 if I remember correctly. I learned the power of weapons and the reality of death. Real life was nothing like the westerns I watched on TV.
Growing up, there was always a rifle or shotgun by the back door. We shot food.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

Kids in the hood are not handed guns from their parents. If they have guns, they get them from their friends. The streets are loaded with hot weapons.

The real problem is that these kids that get the guns have no idea what they have in their hands. About five years ago, some 11 year old girl was shot to death by a 13 year old boy a few houses down from me. He got his hands on a gun and had no idea if the weapon was loaded or not. In fun, he pulled the trigger while aiming the gun at her.

Drive by shootings are common in cities like mine. Because the shooter has very limited (if any) experience with a gun, they don't realize that where you aim is not always where the bullet goes, and they end up killing innocent people on the sidewalk or even in their homes. They have no idea what downrange is or means.

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

Kids in the hood are not handed guns from their parents. If they have guns, they get them from their friends. The streets are loaded with hot weapons.

The real problem is that these kids that get the guns have no idea what they have in their hands. About five years ago, some 11 year old girl was shot to death by a 13 year old boy a few houses down from me. He got his hands on a gun and had no idea if the weapon was loaded or not. In fun, he pulled the trigger while aiming the gun at her.

Drive by shootings are common in cities like mine. Because the shooter has very limited (if any) experience with a gun, they don't realize that where you aim is not always where the bullet goes, and they end up killing innocent people on the sidewalk or even in their homes. They have no idea what downrange is or means.

Let's not hand children firearms period. Let's start there.

 

[2aguy]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

The culture problem we have is in our inner cities....most of the 8,454 deaths happen because of career criminals located in small, multi block areas in these cities......focus on that and 90% of gun murder will be stopped.

It's actually mostly white suburban nutball kids who shoot up schools. How and where did they get their firearms to carry out their massacres?

You do realize that those are the least number of gun murders right? That the most gun murders are by criminals in gangs in inner cities.......and that kids shooting up schools is tiny compared to the killing every day in these small, multi block areas in gang infested territory. But let's focus on the non problem and ignore the real problem......

 

[paulitician]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

We don't teach children how to kill and maim with guns...Some teach their children how to provide food with their guns, and others teach children how to responsibly use guns, and others teach them how to use guns for self defense.....

Then, in democrat controlled cities, in single mother headed households, where a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl raised by a teenage girl has male children whose only adult male role models will be sociapaths in gangs....

That is the culture you need to change.....the others are just fine.

I'm not coming down on hunters only. Kids are being taught violence in general. But it is time for hunters to reconsider handing their children guns. Teaching them to kill and maim seems unnecessary nowadays.

Maybe when they become adults, you hand em a gun and teach them about hunting. But not when they're children. Society's already bombarding them enough with violence. Handing them a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi, is an ugly violent act. It's not necessary. Time to change our ways. No more promoting violence to children.

Teaching children where food comes from is not wrong. Teaching them to provide for themselves is not wrong either......Why do you focus on normal people......put more effort into the democrat inner cities where they have gang breeding grounds and where you actually have real violence......every day.....

You can do those things without handing a child a gun and teaching em to kill and maim Bambi. And like i said, i'm not coming down on hunters only. But hunters do hand children guns and teach them violence. It is what it is.

I think it's fine to teach them about hunting when they become adults. But handing them firearms so early in life just seems unwise and unnecessary. We live in very different times. We have to accept that.

Bambi is FOOD, dammit. I was taught gun safety and use, starting when I was 8 years old. I started hunting at 12.... got my first deer at 14. I've never shot a man not robbed a convenience store.
One of the most important lessons I ever learned was when my father showed me a deer he had shot in the head with a 12 gauge slug.
Everything above the eyes was gone. I saw optic nerves and half a brain.
I was 7 if I remember correctly. I learned the power of weapons and the reality of death. Real life was nothing like the westerns I watched on TV.
Growing up, there was always a rifle or shotgun by the back door. We shot food.

Killing and maiming Bambi is unwise and unnecessary nowadays. It only serves to teach the child ugly brutal violence. I'm fine with teaching them about hunting when they're adults. But for God's sake, stop handing guns to children.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment supporter, but i also realize we do have problems. I mean, i just read about the kid who shot up his school recently. He left a note stating he wanted to be buried in his camo. His father used to dress him up in camo and taught him to enjoy killing and maiming. He was later arrested for illegally acquiring the firearm his son used in the massacre.

It's a culture problem. The kid was raised on violence. His father was a typical gun-obsessed asshole. He taught his child violence. We have to change our culture. We have to become less violent. We have to stop teaching children violence. Maybe stop handing children guns and teaching them how to kill and maim. I know that upsets hunters especially, but it is time to reconsider handing their children guns. We live in a very different time.

What's different? Men have taught their children how to hunt and obtain food for centuries; now it's a problem?

It's the same mentality that gets liberals to cry about violence on television. We've always had violence on television. Watch an episode or two of the Three Stooges or Gunsmoke sometime. Why was it not a problem when I was a chid?

The issue....single teenage mothers raising children....who have children who have children with no adult men or women modeling mature adult behavior.....do that generation after generation and you have what you have now in the democrat inner cities......

That is the gun culture that is the problem...everywhere else in this country guns are not a problem.

And that is why children in the past could watch the 3 stooges and play Army and then..not go to their school and shoot their classmates, or drive down their block at 15 and shoot other kids from different gangs......

We do have a culture problem. We should stop handing children guns and promoting violence. When they become adults, they can decide whether or not they want to acquire a firearm.

The culture problem we have is in our inner cities....most of the 8,454 deaths happen because of career criminals located in small, multi block areas in these cities......focus on that and 90% of gun murder will be stopped.

It's actually mostly white suburban nutball kids who shoot up schools. How and where did they get their firearms to carry out their massacres?

Usually they steal them.