Keeping guns from criminals - liberals, what is your plan?

[Ernie S.]

Or just pass the gd bill lol...

Or not. Why place restrictions on law abiding citizens that will do NOTHING to cut down on guns in the hands of criminals?

 

[Ernie S.]

My links say it's about PRIVATE SELLERS AT GUNSHOWS and else where. DUH.

This has nothing to do with background checks as prescribed by federal law.
How is there a loophole in the federal law?

"Private sellers" duh...

Which, again, has nothing to do with the federal laws regarding background checks.
The fact that you, as an individual, can buy/sell from/to another individual w/o running a background check is not a :"loophole" in the federal law, as the fact that you can do so in no way allows you to get around the federal law - and it CERTAINLY does not have anything specifically to do with gun shows.

You are utterly and completely ignorant of the issue here; this derives from the fact that you only possess the ability to parrot others.

"Private sellers" , AT GUNSHOWS, DINGBAT!!!! LOOPHOLE!!! Ay caramba....

Yeah...and you know what moron....if a felon buys a gun from a private seller and is caught in possession of that gun..they can already be arrested...right now, without "universal" background checks. And how exactly would a "universal" background check work?

You guys want to get the guy selling the gun, not the guy buying the gun....admit that....you know that no matter what law you create, you can't stop criminals....but you can really mess up a normal, honest citizen if you can make them get background checks for every single time they sell a gun...to a family member, to a friend, or when they loan a gun to a friend, or a wife......you just can't wait to ruin their lives....while the felon goes on their merry way.

We are not police. It is not our job to take time out of our life to drag a buyer to a gun store or a police station to get them a background check when we sell grandpa's shotgun. The felon knows they can't buy that gun. When you catch them committing a crime, or just in possession of the gun....arrest them and lock them up.

That is actual gun control....but you guys don't want that do you....

Logic doesn't make any sense to Franco.

 

[Ernie S.]

What about nutjobs, parrot? Can you THINK? lol

Yes we can all think.... except for you, that is. All you do is feel. Liberalism= emotionalism over logic.

 

[Ernie S.]

Thanks to corrupt Pubs and the NRA (and of course the idiot dupes) we're awash in guns, so of course ending the private seller/gunshow loophole would take time to help, except in the case of nutjob massacres. You RWers are total functional morons at this point.

We're awash in guns because gun ownership is a protected right. People acquire more because Liberals won't lock up criminals forcing citizens to either surrender their lives and property or protect themselves with a weapon.

 

[2aguy]

Or just pass the gd bill lol...

Or not. Why place restrictions on law abiding citizens that will do NOTHING to cut down on guns in the hands of criminals?

Because disarming normal people is the only thing they care about....they know criminals break the law...they know even better that a law will stop normal citizens...so they focus on that....

 

[kaz]

Or just pass the gd bill lol...

Or not. Why place restrictions on law abiding citizens that will do NOTHING to cut down on guns in the hands of criminals?

Because disarming normal people is the only thing they care about....they know criminals break the law...they know even better that a law will stop normal citizens...so they focus on that....

Criminals aren't a threat to government, honest citizens are. That's why they don't care if criminals have guns but they want to make sure the rest of us don't

 

[danielpalos]

Posse duty/Jury duty; may one forgive the other--that is the question.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Or just pass the gd bill lol...

Or not. Why place restrictions on law abiding citizens that will do NOTHING to cut down on guns in the hands of criminals?

Because disarming normal people is the only thing they care about....they know criminals break the law...they know even better that a law will stop normal citizens...so they focus on that....

Criminals aren't a threat to government, honest citizens are. That's why they don't care if criminals have guns but they want to make sure the rest of us don't

That's part of it. The larger part is that each party wants to expand their base. One of the largest bases Democrats have are victims: victims of racism, victims of sexism, victims of Big Oil, victims of the War on Women, victims of Big Pharma, victims of rich people, victims of Corporations.......

When you're a victim, you need somebody strong enough to stand up against your aggressor, and that would be government.

So what would happen if they were able to take away our guns? We would all be victims of crime. The criminals would have it over on us like they did decades ago when we didn't have the ability to defend ourselves. That's a lot of victims.

Liberal politicians don't hate guns, they hate the idea that we can defend ourselves with those guns. We don't need government to protect us, we can do that just fine provided we are legally allowed.

If we ever rid our country of victims, we would rid our country of the Democrat party, and they know this.

 

[rightwinger]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

 

[kaz]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

Great idea! Case solved!

Hey, wait, what if criminals just bought an illegal gun? Wish I'd thought of that before. Oh wait, I did, it was in my OP post...

All this would be easier if criminals just followed the law, wouldn't it, comrade big guy?

 

[danielpalos]

What objection can there be to gun lovers registering for posse duty with law enforcement?

 

[kaz]

What objection can there be to gun lovers registering for posse duty with law enforcement?

How can a tea party turn into a rugby match?

 

[danielpalos]

They get "commandeered" into it by law enforcement whenever they need manpower for that endeavor.

 

[kaz]

They get "commandeered" into it by law enforcement whenever they need manpower for that endeavor.

yes, law enforcement needs a good rugby match

 

[Ernie S.]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

Again, this will have zero effect on gun violence. Legal gun owners don't use their weapons to rob and kill people.
1. Knowing where weapons are will have no effect other than to facilitate picking them all up once Liberals achieve their goal of disarming the public.
2. Licensing gun owners will have zero effect other than placing another government roadblock in the way of exercising a right that "shall not be infringed". People that cannot pass a background check don't buy guns legally now. What will change once all legal owners are licensed?
3. A ballistic record of all guns? Really? NININ has about 1.5 million weapons in its data base now. These guns have already been used in a crime and the DB can be used to prosecute actual crimes. Universal ballistic fingerprinting would overwhelm the system with 200 times the data to sift through for no reason other that a back door to the national firearms registry y'all want.

 

[Ernie S.]

They get "commandeered" into it by law enforcement whenever they need manpower for that endeavor.

yes, law enforcement needs a good rugby match

I thought Libs were against involuntary servitude?

 

[rightwinger]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

Great idea! Case solved!

Hey, wait, what if criminals just bought an illegal gun? Wish I'd thought of that before. Oh wait, I did, it was in my OP post...

All this would be easier if criminals just followed the law, wouldn't it, comrade big guy?

Like all preventive measures, they are not 100% effective. Seat belts don't save all lives

However, being able to identify a gun from a bullet found at the scene of a crime will be a huge criminal enforcement tool

 

[kaz]

They get "commandeered" into it by law enforcement whenever they need manpower for that endeavor.

yes, law enforcement needs a good rugby match

I thought Libs were against involuntary servitude?

He's a Canadian though, I never know what he's talking about, ey?

 

[kaz]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

Great idea! Case solved!

Hey, wait, what if criminals just bought an illegal gun? Wish I'd thought of that before. Oh wait, I did, it was in my OP post...

All this would be easier if criminals just followed the law, wouldn't it, comrade big guy?

Like all preventive measures, they are not 100% effective. Seat belts don't save all lives

However, being able to identify a gun from a bullet found at the scene of a crime will be a huge criminal enforcement tool

And how are you going to do that when they buy illegal guns?

You still aren't clicking with the part that criminals don't follow the law, are you?

 

[rightwinger]

Keep guns from criminals...simple plan

1. Register all guns......ownership traceability
2. License gun owners.....ensure they have been trained and passed background check
3. Fingerprint all guns.....any bullet fired from that gun can be traced to the owner

Again, this will have zero effect on gun violence. Legal gun owners don't use their weapons to rob and kill people.
1. Knowing where weapons are will have no effect other than to facilitate picking them all up once Liberals achieve their goal of disarming the public.
2. Licensing gun owners will have zero effect other than placing another government roadblock in the way of exercising a right that "shall not be infringed". People that cannot pass a background check don't buy guns legally now. What will change once all legal owners are licensed?
3. A ballistic record of all guns? Really? NININ has about 1.5 million weapons in its data base now. These guns have already been used in a crime and the DB can be used to prosecute actual crimes. Universal ballistic fingerprinting would overwhelm the system with 200 times the data to sift through for no reason other that a back door to the national firearms registry y'all want.

A gun owner is not a criminal up until the time he pulls the trigger to kill someone without cause.
Not all murders come from some bad guy wearing a mask. Most victims know their killer. Being able to trace a bullet at a crime scene to a specific gun is a huge enforcement tool. Being able to knock on a door and say.....a gun you own was used in a murder...what can you tell us?