Kurt Schlichter proposes a reasoned compromise on gun control with the democrats.........

[2aguy]

Uh, guy, here's the thing about the Holocaust. Most of Europe was fine with it. The Germans found people happy to hand over their Jews in every country they invaded. There were plenty of guns, just no one stupid enough to try to take on a tank with one.



Um, because the US Gun stores keep flooding the place with guns. And some Marine tries to sneak into Mexico, gets caught by the Mexican government, and the GOP screams about how horrible it was that Obama wasn't doing more to get him released.




No diversion necessary. BOTH of those situations happened because someone who had no business buying a military grade weapon was able to buy one. That one had a slightly better outcome by random chance really doesn't mean that much to me.

Hmmmm....

Most of Europe was fine with it....until they found out they were murdering 15 million people........

Yeah...that isn't a great argument for gun control, you dumb ass....

Sure, your neighbors will be fine with you and your family being murdered, so give up your guns.....

You are an idiot.

Nope......the Mexican government and military sells the guns Americans supply them to the drug cartels......they also get their guns from Central and South America, China and Europe.....

 

[2aguy]

Uh, guy, if Joker Holmes and Salvador Ramos can get guns, they aren't rigorous background checks.

Yeah...there are rigorous background checks, they just don't work when your god, government, doesn't arrest or commit them no matter how many crimes they commit, or how many problems they exhibit.....

 

[RetiredGySgt]

How do you plan to disarm the gangs and criminals?

waiting for an answer

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How about those cops? YOu had some small town cops who usually don't have to deal with anything more serious than a traffic violation now having to deal with a crazy person with a military grade weapon on a shooting rampage.

Shame on them for not acting sooner, but shame on us for letting them get into that situation.



As I always say, the best argument for gun control is to let the Gun Fetishist babble about all the people they want to kill.

Moron they just had training for that very act. What military grade weapons? They had the exact weapons as the shooter did. Yes antiguners do want gun control so they gave a kid a lot of cash to buy his guns and go shoot up a place that antiguners want to keep guns out of.

 

[Failzero]

Was he a former NFL QB with a massive gambling issue ?

 

[JoeB131]

once again you obsess over 2 out of over 100 million

Only 19 Muslims were involved in 9/11 out of one billion... yet we did something about that.

Gun violence claims the equivalent to 30 9/11's every year.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron they just had training for that very act. What military grade weapons? They had the exact weapons as the shooter did. Yes antiguners do want gun control so they gave a kid a lot of cash to buy his guns and go shoot up a place that antiguners want to keep guns out of.

I doubt these small town cops had Active Shooter training.

 

[2aguy]

I doubt these small town cops had Active Shooter training.

Moron...they had just had active shooter training in March of this year...you doofus. All police are trained to not wait, to go into the building as soon as you arrive on scene.......you do not wait.....they waited and cost those lives...your god, government.

 

[JoeB131]

Hmmmm....

Most of Europe was fine with it....until they found out they were murdering 15 million people........

Uh, guy, here's the thing. Nobody in 1940 felt all that bad about the Jews. Your average German had no problem having a gun... he just wasn't going to risk his life to protect his Jewish neighbor. They did use those guns to fight to the last old man and little boy in the last stages of the war, though. That's why Ike had to go house to house to confiscate every gun in Germany in 1945.

Yeah...there are rigorous background checks, they just don't work when your god, government, doesn't arrest or commit them no matter how many crimes they commit, or how many problems they exhibit.....

Except Joker Holmes and Ramos hadn't done anything that merited arresting them... until they did.

But a simple background check that would have involved talking to their schools, families, would have uncovered neither one of them had any business owning a gun.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron...they had just had active shooter training in March of this year...you doofus. All police are trained to not wait, to go into the building as soon as you arrive on scene.......you do not wait.....they waited and cost those lives...your god, government.

But you grabbed that government money with both hands when you were in the National Guard, didn't you?

Okay, let's get real. An 8 hour training course isn't going to make Andy and Barney proficient in taking on a mass shooter.

 

[Blues Man]

Only 19 Muslims were involved in 9/11 out of one billion... yet we did something about that.

Gun violence claims the equivalent to 30 9/11's every year.

We really didn't.

We invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11

And as I have said many times everyone knows where the most gun violence takes place but cops and politicians refuse to do anything about it because in the end it's mostly young minority males killing other young minority males and no one really gives a shit.

 

[2aguy]

Uh, guy, here's the thing. Nobody in 1940 felt all that bad about the Jews. Your average German had no problem having a gun... he just wasn't going to risk his life to protect his Jewish neighbor. They did use those guns to fight to the last old man and little boy in the last stages of the war, though. That's why Ike had to go house to house to confiscate every gun in Germany in 1945.



Except Joker Holmes and Ramos hadn't done anything that merited arresting them... until they did.

But a simple background check that would have involved talking to their schools, families, would have uncovered neither one of them had any business owning a gun.

Wrong.....holmes could have been committed.....and ramos had several felony level crimes that the police never acted on, and he could have been committed as well......

A mandatory federal background check was done......and since the government hadn't arrested them or committed them, which they could have done......they didn't pop on the background check.

Robb Elementary School shooting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

James Holmes (mass murderer) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[2aguy]

But you grabbed that government money with both hands when you were in the National Guard, didn't you?

Okay, let's get real. An 8 hour training course isn't going to make Andy and Barney proficient in taking on a mass shooter.

I worked for the national guard and got paid, you dumb ass....

The woman in West Virginia using her concealed carry pistol didn't have any training and she stopped a mass public shooter armed with an AR-15 that same week....you idiot...she was by herself, she didn't have an entire police department with her...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I doubt these small town cops had Active Shooter training.

You're a dumbass

 

[JoeB131]

We really didn't.

We invaded Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11

And as I have said many times everyone knows where the most gun violence takes place but cops and politicians refuse to do anything about it because in the end it's mostly young minority males killing other young minority males and no one really gives a shit.

The politicians refuse to do anything about it because the NRA is very good at intimidating them.

I worked for the national guard and got paid, you dumb ass....

So you hate the government except when they are giving you money... got it.

Wrong.....holmes could have been committed.....and ramos had several felony level crimes that the police never acted on, and he could have been committed as well......

A mandatory federal background check was done......and since the government hadn't arrested them or committed them, which they could have done......they didn't pop on the background check.

Oh, you are finally admitting that Ramos DID have a criminal record. That's nice.

Okay, so let's say instead of just punching in a name in a database, and hoping you spelled it right, you actually make Ramos wait a couple of days.. while someone conducts a thorough background check. And they would have found THIS (from your link).

Born on May 16, 2004, in North Dakota,[113] Salvador Ramos was a resident of Uvalde and a former student at Uvalde High School.[114] He did not have a criminal record or any documented mental health issues;[53] he had previously posted violent threats online.[115] According to his classmates and some of his friends, Ramos had a stutter and a strong lisp, for which he was often bullied; he frequently had fistfights with classmates, occasionally with boxing gloves that he carried around with him, and he had few friends. He was scheduled to finish high school in 2022, but his frequent absences made his graduation unlikely. He eventually dropped out of school.[93][116]

Ramos's social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[117] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[115] Ramos's account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[115][118] Up until a month before the shooting, Ramos worked at a local Wendy's and had been employed there for at least a year. According to the store's night manager, he went out of his way to keep to himself.[119] One of his coworkers said he was occasionally rude to his female co-workers, to whom he sent inappropriate text messages, and would intimidate co-workers at his job by asking them, "Do you know who I am?"[93] Ramos's coworkers referred to him by names including "school shooter" because he had long hair and frequently wore black clothing.[120]

Now, here's a crazy idea. How about actually TALKING to his co-workers before he gets a gun. Or his school. Or checking his social media account?

 

[2aguy]

The politicians refuse to do anything about it because the NRA is very good at intimidating them.




So you hate the government except when they are giving you money... got it.



Oh, you are finally admitting that Ramos DID have a criminal record. That's nice.

Okay, so let's say instead of just punching in a name in a database, and hoping you spelled it right, you actually make Ramos wait a couple of days.. while someone conducts a thorough background check. And they would have found THIS (from your link).

Born on May 16, 2004, in North Dakota,[113] Salvador Ramos was a resident of Uvalde and a former student at Uvalde High School.[114] He did not have a criminal record or any documented mental health issues;[53] he had previously posted violent threats online.[115] According to his classmates and some of his friends, Ramos had a stutter and a strong lisp, for which he was often bullied; he frequently had fistfights with classmates, occasionally with boxing gloves that he carried around with him, and he had few friends. He was scheduled to finish high school in 2022, but his frequent absences made his graduation unlikely. He eventually dropped out of school.[93][116]

Ramos's social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[117] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[115] Ramos's account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[115][118] Up until a month before the shooting, Ramos worked at a local Wendy's and had been employed there for at least a year. According to the store's night manager, he went out of his way to keep to himself.[119] One of his coworkers said he was occasionally rude to his female co-workers, to whom he sent inappropriate text messages, and would intimidate co-workers at his job by asking them, "Do you know who I am?"[93] Ramos's coworkers referred to him by names including "school shooter" because he had long hair and frequently wore black clothing.[120]

Now, here's a crazy idea. How about actually TALKING to his co-workers before he gets a gun. Or his school. Or checking his social media account?

The NRA isn't telling the democrats to keep releasing violent criminals over and over again.....and they aren't telling people to do mass public shootings.

 

[2aguy]

The politicians refuse to do anything about it because the NRA is very good at intimidating them.




So you hate the government except when they are giving you money... got it.



Oh, you are finally admitting that Ramos DID have a criminal record. That's nice.

Okay, so let's say instead of just punching in a name in a database, and hoping you spelled it right, you actually make Ramos wait a couple of days.. while someone conducts a thorough background check. And they would have found THIS (from your link).

Born on May 16, 2004, in North Dakota,[113] Salvador Ramos was a resident of Uvalde and a former student at Uvalde High School.[114] He did not have a criminal record or any documented mental health issues;[53] he had previously posted violent threats online.[115] According to his classmates and some of his friends, Ramos had a stutter and a strong lisp, for which he was often bullied; he frequently had fistfights with classmates, occasionally with boxing gloves that he carried around with him, and he had few friends. He was scheduled to finish high school in 2022, but his frequent absences made his graduation unlikely. He eventually dropped out of school.[93][116]

Ramos's social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[117] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[115] Ramos's account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[115][118] Up until a month before the shooting, Ramos worked at a local Wendy's and had been employed there for at least a year. According to the store's night manager, he went out of his way to keep to himself.[119] One of his coworkers said he was occasionally rude to his female co-workers, to whom he sent inappropriate text messages, and would intimidate co-workers at his job by asking them, "Do you know who I am?"[93] Ramos's coworkers referred to him by names including "school shooter" because he had long hair and frequently wore black clothing.[120]

Now, here's a crazy idea. How about actually TALKING to his co-workers before he gets a gun. Or his school. Or checking his social media account?

Shithead......the torture and killing of cats is a felony.......had his friends or family had him arrested, he would have failed the background check. The threatening to rape girls could have gotten him a restraining order....bingo, another pop on a background check....

This was a failure of government, not normal gun owners.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

How do you plan to disarm the gangs and criminals?

Still waiting for your answer Joe

 

[Flash]

I've told you my idea.

Repeal the law that prevents gun sellers from getting sued. You'd be amazed how quickly the gun industry cleans up its act.

We have told you what we think of your stupid idea. Cram it up your Libtard ass.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The politicians refuse to do anything about it because the NRA is very good at intimidating them.




So you hate the government except when they are giving you money... got it.



Oh, you are finally admitting that Ramos DID have a criminal record. That's nice.

Okay, so let's say instead of just punching in a name in a database, and hoping you spelled it right, you actually make Ramos wait a couple of days.. while someone conducts a thorough background check. And they would have found THIS (from your link).

Born on May 16, 2004, in North Dakota,[113] Salvador Ramos was a resident of Uvalde and a former student at Uvalde High School.[114] He did not have a criminal record or any documented mental health issues;[53] he had previously posted violent threats online.[115] According to his classmates and some of his friends, Ramos had a stutter and a strong lisp, for which he was often bullied; he frequently had fistfights with classmates, occasionally with boxing gloves that he carried around with him, and he had few friends. He was scheduled to finish high school in 2022, but his frequent absences made his graduation unlikely. He eventually dropped out of school.[93][116]

Ramos's social media acquaintances said he openly abused and killed animals such as cats and would livestream the abuse on Yubo.[117] Other social media acquaintances said that he would also livestream himself on Yubo threatening to kidnap and rape girls who used the app, as well as threatening to commit a school shooting.[115] Ramos's account was reported to Yubo, but no action was taken.[115][118] Up until a month before the shooting, Ramos worked at a local Wendy's and had been employed there for at least a year. According to the store's night manager, he went out of his way to keep to himself.[119] One of his coworkers said he was occasionally rude to his female co-workers, to whom he sent inappropriate text messages, and would intimidate co-workers at his job by asking them, "Do you know who I am?"[93] Ramos's coworkers referred to him by names including "school shooter" because he had long hair and frequently wore black clothing.[120]

Now, here's a crazy idea. How about actually TALKING to his co-workers before he gets a gun. Or his school. Or checking his social media account?

The NRA is US not some imaginary thing.