Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Skull Pilot]

I still can't believe that people can be so horrible and do such terrible things.

You have to accept the fact that humans are the most dangerous and violent animal to have ever walked on this planet.

It is as irrefutable as gravity.

Humans can go either way. Become very evil ... or become very good.

Unlike animals, which are locked into being whatever they are born to be.

Like benign sheep ... or predatory wolf.

There is doubt about that.
Sociopaths are born not raised.

Even if all behavior is a choice then it is even more disturbing that so many humans choose to be violent predators.

 

[ChrisL]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

 

[beagle9]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

 

[Ame®icano]

After all I've seen so far, I'm not convinced that Paddock is a shooter.

Something is missing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

After all I've seen so far, I'm not convinced that Paddock is a shooter.

Something is missing.

Well, nobody has mentioned the Illuminati or new world order, so clearly all of the journalists are in on it, too.

*cuckoo*
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*cuckoo*

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

Or he was just very mentally ill.

 

[beagle9]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

Or he was just very mentally ill.

. If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. There should be many who could attest to such an unstable person he may have been. The investigation should leave no stone unturned. It's out there as to why this happened. His politics might be a factor to be involved, and if that's found out it will be just another piece of the puzzle to be added.

 

[beagle9]

The girlfriend is a key to his character analysis if they find she is innocent in the situation. She should really be helpful about his character, and his mental state of mind leading up to the event.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

Or he was just very mentally ill.

. If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. There should be many who could attest to such an unstable person he may have been. The investigation should leave no stone unturned. It's out there as to why this happened. His politics might be a factor to be involved, and if that's found out it will be just another piece of the puzzle to be added.

" If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. "


hmm, no, not necessarily. Mentally ill people can be quite good at hiding their disturbing urges from others. For example, many serial killers have had neighbors, roomates, and even immediate, live-in family say they had not a clue what was going on.

 

[beagle9]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

Or he was just very mentally ill.

. If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. There should be many who could attest to such an unstable person he may have been. The investigation should leave no stone unturned. It's out there as to why this happened. His politics might be a factor to be involved, and if that's found out it will be just another piece of the puzzle to be added.

" If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. "


hmm, no, not necessarily. Mentally ill people can be quite good at hiding their disturbing urges from others. For example, many serial killers have had neighbors, roomates, and even immediate, live-in family say they had not a clue what was going on.

Family usually is lying.... Have to break them down over time before the embarrassing truth comes out. No one would want to give info after the fact against a friend or family member in this generational way of thinking. There may be still some out there who would choose right over family, but not many these days.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There must be certain types, certain environments, or a "perfect storm" of circumstances so to speak, that makes someone flip their lid like this. Some of these people were probably neglected as children, unloved or felt unloved, abused in one way or another, and they feel a sense of "hatred" and perhaps envy of others that share their environment, so one day they either just can't take anymore and flip out, or they purposefully design their end so that they finally get the "attention and recognition" that they feel they deserve. People will remember their names and what they did. They have made their "mark" on the world.

. With the guy's intelligence, records of achievements, abilities, I think t is more along the lines of indoctrination than with childhood experiences, but I could be wrong. His brother should be able to clarify either or to be found in his character. The fact that he chose to live a life in the shady world of gambling makes him highly vulnerable to bribery, being blackmailed, and sorts of things like that. He could have been someone politically motivated to attempt to drive the final nail into the second amendment by his actions. Sort of like Dillon Ruth attempted to get a civil war between the whites and blacks going with his heinus attack on those church goers in Charleston SC.

Or he was just very mentally ill.

. If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. There should be many who could attest to such an unstable person he may have been. The investigation should leave no stone unturned. It's out there as to why this happened. His politics might be a factor to be involved, and if that's found out it will be just another piece of the puzzle to be added.

" If he was that mental, then there would be evidence to the fact prior to the event. "


hmm, no, not necessarily. Mentally ill people can be quite good at hiding their disturbing urges from others. For example, many serial killers have had neighbors, roomates, and even immediate, live-in family say they had not a clue what was going on.

Family usually is lying.... Have to break them down over time before the embarrassing truth comes out. No one would want to give info after the fact against a friend or family member in this generational way of thinking. There may be still some out there who would choose right over family, but not many these days.

Lying, or a bit delusional and can't see it sometimes, too.

are your windows treated with one-way paint, so nobody can see in? Paddock's were. How many guns did you buy over the last couple of years? Was it more or less than 30? There are already things popping up that show he was not a well-adjusted man.

 

[JohnPrewett]

I still can't believe that people can be so horrible and do such terrible things.

You have to accept the fact that humans are the most dangerous and violent animal to have ever walked on this planet.

It is as irrefutable as gravity.

Humans can go either way. Become very evil ... or become very good.

Unlike animals, which are locked into being whatever they are born to be.

Like benign sheep ... or predatory wolf.

There is doubt about that. Sociopaths are born not raised.

Even if all behavior is a choice then it is even more disturbing that so many humans choose to be violent predators.

Sociopaths are born not raised.

Nope.

And I'm sorry you were raised in midst of so many violent predators.

Among the people I've interacted with all my life (I'm pushing 70), I've never known anyone I'd label a "violent predator". If you were right, then the % of "violent predators" would be same no matter if you were born into family of Quakers - Buddhist .... or you were born into some culture that honors those who are "violent predators".

 

[Skull Pilot]

I still can't believe that people can be so horrible and do such terrible things.

You have to accept the fact that humans are the most dangerous and violent animal to have ever walked on this planet.

It is as irrefutable as gravity.

Humans can go either way. Become very evil ... or become very good.

Unlike animals, which are locked into being whatever they are born to be.

Like benign sheep ... or predatory wolf.

There is doubt about that. Sociopaths are born not raised.

Even if all behavior is a choice then it is even more disturbing that so many humans choose to be violent predators.

Sociopaths are born not raised.

Nope.

And I'm sorry you were raised in midst of so many violent predators.

Among the people I've interacted with all my life (I'm pushing 70), I've never known anyone I'd label a "violent predator". If you were right, then the % of "violent predators" would be same no matter if you were born into family of Quakers - Buddhist .... or you were born into some culture that honors those who are "violent predators".

You're 70 and still naive.

 

[JohnPrewett]

You're 70 and still naive.

You're a kid and still ignorant.

 

[longknife]

The FBI “Hinky” on the Mandalay Bay Massacre?

I’ve seen 5 or 6 similar reports to this but there seems to be questions about the head of the FBI field office in Las Vegas based upon his ties to fired director Comey. As if he’s not telling us everything there is to know about the shooter and the investigation.

I read the piece and it doesn’t seem like a whole lot. Perhaps someone else can see it better than me.

Full story @ Public should be asking FBI Las Vegas Division Director Aaron Rouse WHAT HAPPENED?

 

[longknife]

Media Begging Us For Conspiracy Theories on Las Vegas

You can see it in every report. They’re demanding something beside the mundane story of a rich whacko offing a bunch of people because his meds weren’t working right.

The most likely explanation is that the reporters and investigators are incompetent nitwits. But the changing facts from law enforcement and preposterous lies from the press aren’t doing a lot to tamp down alternative theories of the crime.

Full demented theories @ Media Begging Us For Conspiracy Theories on Las Vegas | Human Events

dozens of these

Unanswered questions regarding the Las Vegas Strip massacre @ Unanswered questions regarding the Las Vegas Strip massacre

 

[Dalia]

After the shooting began, a group of officers formed an ad-hoc SWAT team to storm the gunman's room. For the first time, they describe to Bill Whitaker what they saw and heard
The gunman at the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas who shot into a crowd of thousands did it from a room on the 32nd floor. He may have killed many more if not for a security guard who arrived on the floor within 12 minutes of the onset of the attack. Soon, a small group of Las Vegas police arrived. They organized themselves into an ad-hoc SWAT team and began storming room 135.
Las Vegas officers describe storming shooter Stephen Paddock's hotel room

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Media Begging Us For Conspiracy Theories on Las Vegas

You can see it in every report. They’re demanding something beside the mundane story of a rich whacko offing a bunch of people because his meds weren’t working right.

The most likely explanation is that the reporters and investigators are incompetent nitwits. But the changing facts from law enforcement and preposterous lies from the press aren’t doing a lot to tamp down alternative theories of the crime.

Full demented theories @ Media Begging Us For Conspiracy Theories on Las Vegas | Human Events

dozens of these

Unanswered questions regarding the Las Vegas Strip massacre @ Unanswered questions regarding the Las Vegas Strip massacre

Haha...
And this is where the conspiracy nutters step up and give us answers to all the unanswered questions....

 

[Dalia]

Hello all. No, there was no second shooter. No, Stephen Paddock was not part of larger conspiracy. Yes, he merely barricaded himself in a room and shot people. No, he wasn't targeting Trump supporters at a country concert.

I will not be so sure, we still don't have any motivation coming up ! a lot of Strange stuff are going on with this shooting.

1- The age of Paddock
2- the two broken Windows
3- The Room look from the 80's

compare too

4- the number 13 don't appear on the neck of " Paddock" on the ground

I cut the picture to show just the neck

Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?
5- Nobody call to say that he is shoot at the security gard ? and after starting at 10.00pm nobody is still not calling ?come on !
Despite the advance warnings, police did not show up on the 32nd floor until 10:17 p.m., two minutes after Paddock had, for reasons unknown, ended his 10-minute shooting spree, according to the Los Angeles Times report. With the six-minute time lag between Paddock’s attack on Campos and when he started shooting out the hotel windows, police apparently took at least 18 minutes to get to Paddock’s floor after calls were placed reporting a gunman there.
6- When Charlottesville happen the media talk about it for weeks after this shooting it last three days not a lot more.

 

[paperview]

Buncha nutters.