Lucy Hamilton
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It says "statue originally an Egyptian peasant".
Is that inaccurate?
"It says "statue originally an Egyptian peasant".
Is that inaccurate?"
Yes it is inaccurate, because the Statue of Liberty was modelled on the Ancient Roman Goddess Libertas who herself was inspired by/modelled on the ANCIENT Egyptian Goddess Isis.
And also Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi was originally going to construct an entirely different statue based on an ANCIENT Egyptian peasant girl.
Coyote there is a difference between the Ancient Egyptians and the Egyptians. These what can only be termed Propagandists and perverters of Ancient History are peddling this absolute horsecrap to attempt in a vile and twisted way to say The Statue of Liberty was based on a Muslim woman, when she wasn't.
According to the Liberty Island museum, the model for the face of the Goddess of Liberty, was Bartholdi's mother, Charlotte Beysser Bartholdi.
I've heard that also.
I think it is fair to say there were many influences. People shouldn't get so upset.
"People shouldn't get so upset."
People should get upset when essentially Propagandist hacks and so-called researchers are deliberately perverting established and corroborated Ancient History so a sinister Agenda can be pushed further into the psyche of incredibly ignorant people who know no better and so will just absorb this horsecrap.
This is no different than them insisting that George Washington was actually a Chinaman and Martin Luther King was a White man.
The thing is though, the statue today WAS based on an Egyptian woman, not an ancient Egyptian. And the original design was reused and revised. So the claim isn't a lie, it's just an interesting bit of the statue's history, and main reason for outrage seems to be god forbid - it could be a Muslim. The hidden irony, which also seems to upset people, is that this bit of the statues history, is now seen in light of the ban on Syrian refugees. No one cared two years ago, when Smithsonian wrote its article. No one cared five years ago, when Berenson published his book.
This source isn't a liberal one, it's considered conservative:
The Statue of Liberty was modeled after an Arab woman
The statue's designer, Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi, was enamored with Egyptian pyramids and monumental sculpture. According to historian Edward Berenson, in the 1860s, Bartholdi decided to build a monument to commemorate the opening of Egypt's Suez Canal.
"And that monument was going to be a woman in the southern opening of the canal holding up a torch over her head and that woman was dressed in Arab peasant garb,” Berenson says. But when the ruler of Egypt, Khedewi Ismail Pasha, went bankrupt, the colossal Suez sculpture project was jettisoned.
But the artist soon found a way to recycle his design. “A couple of years earlier, Bartholdi and his friends decided they were going to give a gift to the United States that was going to celebrate the centennial of the American Revolution,” Berenson explains. “And then, Bartholdi thought, ‘Ah! I’ve got a great idea! I can reuse this image but change it to fit the American Revolution.’”
Bartholdi changed the woman that was originally dressed in Arab garb into a Greco-Roman goddess of liberty. And the Statue of Liberty, as we know her today, was born.
And without fact checking, the libs will believe it to be true when it is not. Emperor Trump must step in and end the media's constant obfuscations.
2017/02/latest-liberal-lie-statue-liberty-modeled-cloaked-muslim-woman/
Just more fakery that reveals that the MSM isn't even bothering to check anything....As long as it is against America, or Trump, just print it/Air it....
Just more fakery that reveals that the MSM isn't even bothering to check anything....As long as it is against America, or Trump, just print it/Air it....
How is it against America?
Just more fakery that reveals that the MSM isn't even bothering to check anything....As long as it is against America, or Trump, just print it/Air it....
How is it against America?
Because they're Traitors, President Trump is attempting to protect America and American citizens and these Traitor POS don't care it's all about the love-in with Islam, these Traitors won't EVEN acknowledge that Islamic Terrorism has ANYTHING to do with Islam.
So because hundreds of years later the population or rather some of it converted to Islam does not somehow mean the original population was Muslim you loon.Considering the original location for the Statue of Liberty was Egypt, not New York Harbor, it makes perfect sense.
No it doesn't make sense, the entire notion is the depth of absolute ignorance, it seems that the MSM is now gearing itself towards the brain-washed and the uneducated.
The Statue of Liberty and the Goddess it was modelled on and the Goddess that that one in turn was modelled on NONE of them were Muslim.
Oh Good God Almighty. Originally, the statue was suppose to be placed at the Suez canal to celebrate it's completion. The original intent was for the statue to be of a "veiled peasant woman" representing the people of Egypt. Veil, woman, Egypt--yeah MUSLIM.
The Statue of Liberty Was Originally a Muslim Woman | Smart News | Smithsonian
Note, that article is from November of 2015.
And now the right is all incensed over this? Who cares? She's OUR lady, and whether she is modeled after an Egyption woman or some other, her inclusive and wonderful symbolism remains unchanged except by those who seem to be offended that she might have been Muslim. Her identity carries NO religion and ALL religion.
An Ancient Egyptian woman Coyote, which is very different than an Egyptian woman.
The Ancient Egyptians were not Muslim, they pre-dated Jesus Christ and Islam wasn't founded until the 7th Century. The Ancient Egyptians were Pagans, and their Goddess Isis is still very much revered by all Pagans today.
Isis | Egyptian goddess
Ancient Egyptian Gods: Isis
And yet they are the same people aren't they? The polytheists of ancient Egypt became the Muslims of later Egypt.
Just more fakery that reveals that the MSM isn't even bothering to check anything....As long as it is against America, or Trump, just print it/Air it....
How is it against America?
Because they're Traitors, President Trump is attempting to protect America and American citizens and these Traitor POS don't care it's all about the love-in with Islam, these Traitors won't EVEN acknowledge that Islamic Terrorism has ANYTHING to do with Islam.
I don't see how this article on the history of the statue of liberty is "against America" - it isn't.
You can't deal with facts and reality can you you lying piece of human excrement.It says "statue originally an Egyptian peasant".
Is that inaccurate?
"It says "statue originally an Egyptian peasant".
Is that inaccurate?"
Yes it is inaccurate, because the Statue of Liberty was modelled on the Ancient Roman Goddess Libertas who herself was inspired by/modelled on the ANCIENT Egyptian Goddess Isis.
And also Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi was originally going to construct an entirely different statue based on an ANCIENT Egyptian peasant girl.
Coyote there is a difference between the Ancient Egyptians and the Egyptians. These what can only be termed Propagandists and perverters of Ancient History are peddling this absolute horsecrap to attempt in a vile and twisted way to say The Statue of Liberty was based on a Muslim woman, when she wasn't.
According to the Liberty Island museum, the model for the face of the Goddess of Liberty, was Bartholdi's mother, Charlotte Beysser Bartholdi.
I've heard that also.
I think it is fair to say there were many influences. People shouldn't get so upset.
"People shouldn't get so upset."
People should get upset when essentially Propagandist hacks and so-called researchers are deliberately perverting established and corroborated Ancient History so a sinister Agenda can be pushed further into the psyche of incredibly ignorant people who know no better and so will just absorb this horsecrap.
This is no different than them insisting that George Washington was actually a Chinaman and Martin Luther King was a White man.
The thing is though, the statue today WAS based on an Egyptian woman, not an ancient Egyptian. And the original design was reused and revised. So the claim isn't a lie, it's just an interesting bit of the statue's history, and main reason for outrage seems to be god forbid - it could be a Muslim. The hidden irony, which also seems to upset people, is that this bit of the statues history, is now seen in light of the ban on Syrian refugees. No one cared two years ago, when Smithsonian wrote its article. No one cared five years ago, when Berenson published his book.
This source isn't a liberal one, it's considered conservative:
The Statue of Liberty was modeled after an Arab woman
The statue's designer, Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi, was enamored with Egyptian pyramids and monumental sculpture. According to historian Edward Berenson, in the 1860s, Bartholdi decided to build a monument to commemorate the opening of Egypt's Suez Canal.
"And that monument was going to be a woman in the southern opening of the canal holding up a torch over her head and that woman was dressed in Arab peasant garb,” Berenson says. But when the ruler of Egypt, Khedewi Ismail Pasha, went bankrupt, the colossal Suez sculpture project was jettisoned.
But the artist soon found a way to recycle his design. “A couple of years earlier, Bartholdi and his friends decided they were going to give a gift to the United States that was going to celebrate the centennial of the American Revolution,” Berenson explains. “And then, Bartholdi thought, ‘Ah! I’ve got a great idea! I can reuse this image but change it to fit the American Revolution.’”
Bartholdi changed the woman that was originally dressed in Arab garb into a Greco-Roman goddess of liberty. And the Statue of Liberty, as we know her today, was born.
You can't deal with facts and reality can you you lying piece of human excrement."It says "statue originally an Egyptian peasant".
Is that inaccurate?"
Yes it is inaccurate, because the Statue of Liberty was modelled on the Ancient Roman Goddess Libertas who herself was inspired by/modelled on the ANCIENT Egyptian Goddess Isis.
And also Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi was originally going to construct an entirely different statue based on an ANCIENT Egyptian peasant girl.
Coyote there is a difference between the Ancient Egyptians and the Egyptians. These what can only be termed Propagandists and perverters of Ancient History are peddling this absolute horsecrap to attempt in a vile and twisted way to say The Statue of Liberty was based on a Muslim woman, when she wasn't.
According to the Liberty Island museum, the model for the face of the Goddess of Liberty, was Bartholdi's mother, Charlotte Beysser Bartholdi.
I've heard that also.
I think it is fair to say there were many influences. People shouldn't get so upset.
"People shouldn't get so upset."
People should get upset when essentially Propagandist hacks and so-called researchers are deliberately perverting established and corroborated Ancient History so a sinister Agenda can be pushed further into the psyche of incredibly ignorant people who know no better and so will just absorb this horsecrap.
This is no different than them insisting that George Washington was actually a Chinaman and Martin Luther King was a White man.
The thing is though, the statue today WAS based on an Egyptian woman, not an ancient Egyptian. And the original design was reused and revised. So the claim isn't a lie, it's just an interesting bit of the statue's history, and main reason for outrage seems to be god forbid - it could be a Muslim. The hidden irony, which also seems to upset people, is that this bit of the statues history, is now seen in light of the ban on Syrian refugees. No one cared two years ago, when Smithsonian wrote its article. No one cared five years ago, when Berenson published his book.
This source isn't a liberal one, it's considered conservative:
The Statue of Liberty was modeled after an Arab woman
The statue's designer, Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi, was enamored with Egyptian pyramids and monumental sculpture. According to historian Edward Berenson, in the 1860s, Bartholdi decided to build a monument to commemorate the opening of Egypt's Suez Canal.
"And that monument was going to be a woman in the southern opening of the canal holding up a torch over her head and that woman was dressed in Arab peasant garb,” Berenson says. But when the ruler of Egypt, Khedewi Ismail Pasha, went bankrupt, the colossal Suez sculpture project was jettisoned.
But the artist soon found a way to recycle his design. “A couple of years earlier, Bartholdi and his friends decided they were going to give a gift to the United States that was going to celebrate the centennial of the American Revolution,” Berenson explains. “And then, Bartholdi thought, ‘Ah! I’ve got a great idea! I can reuse this image but change it to fit the American Revolution.’”
Bartholdi changed the woman that was originally dressed in Arab garb into a Greco-Roman goddess of liberty. And the Statue of Liberty, as we know her today, was born.
So because hundreds of years later the population or rather some of it converted to Islam does not somehow mean the original population was Muslim you loon.No it doesn't make sense, the entire notion is the depth of absolute ignorance, it seems that the MSM is now gearing itself towards the brain-washed and the uneducated.
The Statue of Liberty and the Goddess it was modelled on and the Goddess that that one in turn was modelled on NONE of them were Muslim.
Oh Good God Almighty. Originally, the statue was suppose to be placed at the Suez canal to celebrate it's completion. The original intent was for the statue to be of a "veiled peasant woman" representing the people of Egypt. Veil, woman, Egypt--yeah MUSLIM.
The Statue of Liberty Was Originally a Muslim Woman | Smart News | Smithsonian
Note, that article is from November of 2015.
And now the right is all incensed over this? Who cares? She's OUR lady, and whether she is modeled after an Egyption woman or some other, her inclusive and wonderful symbolism remains unchanged except by those who seem to be offended that she might have been Muslim. Her identity carries NO religion and ALL religion.
An Ancient Egyptian woman Coyote, which is very different than an Egyptian woman.
The Ancient Egyptians were not Muslim, they pre-dated Jesus Christ and Islam wasn't founded until the 7th Century. The Ancient Egyptians were Pagans, and their Goddess Isis is still very much revered by all Pagans today.
Isis | Egyptian goddess
Ancient Egyptian Gods: Isis
And yet they are the same people aren't they? The polytheists of ancient Egypt became the Muslims of later Egypt.
You did not provide facts you have been schooled on the REAL facts and continue to spew stupidity about Muslims.You can't deal with facts and reality can you you lying piece of human excrement.According to the Liberty Island museum, the model for the face of the Goddess of Liberty, was Bartholdi's mother, Charlotte Beysser Bartholdi.
I've heard that also.
I think it is fair to say there were many influences. People shouldn't get so upset.
"People shouldn't get so upset."
People should get upset when essentially Propagandist hacks and so-called researchers are deliberately perverting established and corroborated Ancient History so a sinister Agenda can be pushed further into the psyche of incredibly ignorant people who know no better and so will just absorb this horsecrap.
This is no different than them insisting that George Washington was actually a Chinaman and Martin Luther King was a White man.
The thing is though, the statue today WAS based on an Egyptian woman, not an ancient Egyptian. And the original design was reused and revised. So the claim isn't a lie, it's just an interesting bit of the statue's history, and main reason for outrage seems to be god forbid - it could be a Muslim. The hidden irony, which also seems to upset people, is that this bit of the statues history, is now seen in light of the ban on Syrian refugees. No one cared two years ago, when Smithsonian wrote its article. No one cared five years ago, when Berenson published his book.
This source isn't a liberal one, it's considered conservative:
The Statue of Liberty was modeled after an Arab woman
The statue's designer, Frédéric-Auguste Bartholdi, was enamored with Egyptian pyramids and monumental sculpture. According to historian Edward Berenson, in the 1860s, Bartholdi decided to build a monument to commemorate the opening of Egypt's Suez Canal.
"And that monument was going to be a woman in the southern opening of the canal holding up a torch over her head and that woman was dressed in Arab peasant garb,” Berenson says. But when the ruler of Egypt, Khedewi Ismail Pasha, went bankrupt, the colossal Suez sculpture project was jettisoned.
But the artist soon found a way to recycle his design. “A couple of years earlier, Bartholdi and his friends decided they were going to give a gift to the United States that was going to celebrate the centennial of the American Revolution,” Berenson explains. “And then, Bartholdi thought, ‘Ah! I’ve got a great idea! I can reuse this image but change it to fit the American Revolution.’”
Bartholdi changed the woman that was originally dressed in Arab garb into a Greco-Roman goddess of liberty. And the Statue of Liberty, as we know her today, was born.
I just provided facts. If you don't think so, take it up with Berenson.
And go flush yourself. No one likes a turd in the punch bowl.