Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[boedicca]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Okay, so it wasn't what Emma said, it was what someone else said she said.

She says it herself in the YT.

 

[HappyJoy]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

 

[HappyJoy]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Okay, so it wasn't what Emma said, it was what someone else said she said.

She says it herself in the YT.

Lie.

 

[boedicca]

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Yeah, she was addressing a rumor and no mention of the word 'bully' other than from the douche narrating the video.

Ostracism is a form of bullying, bub.

Not really. Ostracism could simply be keeping a kid out of a group of friends, who doesn't do that?

Bullying is attacking the person verbally or otherwise.

Anyway, the kid was off, apparently acted out violently so often times ostracism is what you get in return.

Ohmygoodness. Do you understand anything about children? A child who is shunned and excluded is very hurt.

 

[JohnPrewett]

 

[HappyJoy]

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Yeah, she was addressing a rumor and no mention of the word 'bully' other than from the douche narrating the video.

Ostracism is a form of bullying, bub.

Not really. Ostracism could simply be keeping a kid out of a group of friends, who doesn't do that?

Bullying is attacking the person verbally or otherwise.

Anyway, the kid was off, apparently acted out violently so often times ostracism is what you get in return.

Ohmygoodness. Do you understand anything about children? A child who is shunned and excluded is very hurt.

As Emma said, you didn't know that kid.

Anyway, no she didn't say anything about bullying, sorry she didn't want to be friends with him, it's her right and looks like she's a good judge of character.

 

[JohnPrewett]

 

[HappyJoy]

You guys just love to believe the lies.

There is video of him in the classroom interviewing other kids while at the school. Later, after he came home he grabbed his camera and rode his bike back to the school to interview more people.

But, hey, keep lying to yourself, or better yet let others fill your head with bullshit.

 

[DrLove]

Fake News ^ ^ ^

UPDATE: CBS Video Confusing. Hogg Was on Campus.

 

[Hossfly]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

I support all five choices if they control criminal action.. Sadly, none of them will prevent or reduce gun violence. Every one of the choices are intended to hamper and restrict law abiding citizens and not criminals.

 

[Care4all]

Not ONCE in that video you posted did he say he was not there for the school shooting, NOT ONCE you lying piece of excrement!

He is talking about going BACK to the school, with his camera on his bike around dusk, because he knew the press would be there and other people that experience the event would be there, he did what any journalist would do.

He had already released to the public the video he had done while hiding in the classroom....EVERYONE had already seen it....he was the first one reporting on it, while in the school with other students....

Gawd almighty WHY OH WHY OH WHY are you right wingers so susceptible to believing FAKE NEWS?

You have a deep seeded hatred in your hearts.... that allows you to believe anything "against the other guy", even if it is no where near the truth. Satan's minions, is who you all are....and you seem to love every minute of it!

 

[Care4all]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

I support all five choices if they control criminal action.. Sadly, none of them will prevent or reduce gun violence. Every one of the choices are intended to hamper and restrict law abiding citizens and not criminals.

exactly HOW do these measures restrict law abiding citizens, other than the AR15 type ban?

 

[rightwinger]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Nobody is stopping Laura Ingraham from saying whatever she wants.

But if she wants big corporations to pay her to say something, she better not say things that cross certain lines.

This isn't complicated. This isn't new.

On the Right, Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and others crossed that line and got pulled... on the left, so did Olbermann.

She wasn't in trouble because she disagreed with Hogg's point, she was in trouble because she attacked him personally.

Laura Ingram is free to refute what David Hogg has to say about gun control and school safety

But as a major network personality engaging in petty, personal attacks on a child who just survived a school shooting she should be ashamed of herself and deserves whatever blowback she receives

 

[rightwinger]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

For every gun fetishist boycotting one of these companies, there will be ten normal people who support them for a savvy business decision.

As for this?

A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
Yes....they want to ban and confiscate guns.

These major sponsors need to assess whether supporting shock broadcasters like Hannity, Ingraham and Limbaugh is worth the aggravation

 

[del]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

actions have consequences

laura should have thought of that

 

[HappyJoy]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

I support all five choices if they control criminal action.. Sadly, none of them will prevent or reduce gun violence. Every one of the choices are intended to hamper and restrict law abiding citizens and not criminals.

With the exception of the last one about banning assault weapons not one of them can be remotely seen as restricting legal gun ownership from law abiding citizens.

The shooter in Parkland was under 21 and used an assault styled weapon.

Almost every mass shooter uses an assault styled weapon

There are loopholes around the background check system, those should be closed as killers have bought guns this way in the past. Media Reports Ohio Killer 'Likely' Got Guns Through Private Sales

How are armed guards at school limiting your 2nd amendment rights?

At least you were smart enough to avoid the point of my post, that being the kids at Parkland have the favor of the vast majority of Americans and it is people like you who are out of step (as usual) with the mainstream.

 

[rightwinger]

'No one is above criticism. When you enter the public discourse you open yourself to the dissection of your arguments and points'

The right is allowed to criticize Parkland students if they disagree with their opinions on school safety

However, engaging in personal attacks, creating and disseminating fake news and gloating because one received a college rejection is despicable. Especially when teenagers who just saw their friends massacred are the target

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

The banning of "assault weapons" is the one that raises a red flag.

My semi-auto sport rifles that millions of people own work just like the boogeyman "assault weapons".

 

[rightwinger]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

actions have consequences

laura should have thought of that

She chose to act like a bitch instead of a journalist

Her sponsors were not happy

 

[Hossfly]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

I support the 2nd amendment. But, I don't know, can we dig a little deeper here? This is what gun control proponents support:

They are clearly in the majority.

I support all five choices if they control criminal action.. Sadly, none of them will prevent or reduce gun violence. Every one of the choices are intended to hamper and restrict law abiding citizens and not criminals.

exactly HOW do these measures restrict law abiding citizens, other than the AR15 type ban?

Because law abiding citizens aren't likely to go on a shooting rampage. Why does a semi-automatic AR-15 need to be banned?