Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[boedicca]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

If she is...her posts here might change that if seen by mental health specialists.

As long as they take her computer as well, for her own good of course.

 

[HappyJoy]

Remember when the left threw a fit when conservatives went after the livelihood of the Dixie Chicks ?
They claimed we were attacking their free speech.

Guess it's ok now.

According to your post it is OK now.

 

[HappyJoy]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Yes...the democrats hate the 2nd Amendment...but they hate the 1st amendment even more.

Neither one broken or attempted to be broken by Hogg.

 

[bodecea]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

The right has started or attempted to start many boycotts, don't fool yourse...never mind, too late.

How'd those boycotts against Disney and Starbucks turn out?

 

[JoeB131]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

Since the gun fetishists are only 3% of the population and you spend most of your disposable income on guns, it's not much of a threat.

Here's the real problem... big corporations are figuring out what the gun culture is costing them in increased security, lost productivity, and increased health care costs, and they are realizing that they are getting no benefit from it if their business isn't related to guns.

 

[August West]

Remember when the left threw a fit when conservatives went after the livelihood of the Dixie Chicks ?
They claimed we were attacking their free speech.

Guess it's ok now.

I don`t remember any leftist throwing a fit. We were too busy celebrating.

 

[tinydancer]

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

Depend on a law enforcement officer who refuses to engage the shooter? What part of this did you miss asshole? The police did not engage.

Yep, they didn't engage as soon as they should have. Why that means fellow students and/or teachers should be armed every other day of school is beyond me, there's a good chance they would have just shot each other.

You didn't answer my question. Are you a gun owner who can legally carry concealed or otherwise?

Seriously you haven't after all these years on this board with me not seen what I have had and what I have now? Really? I've been very open about it.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

The mouthy little pussy doesn't speak for me.That's my opinion. We have enough gun laws to fill a catalog. Have your Representative, Senator and state governor enforce them and take away criminal's guns. It's not up to the Government.

I'm pretty sure pussy steers clear of you. However, nobody claimed, assumed or otherwise cared if he speaks for you. He speaks for many others and has a right to express that opinion. Ingraham is finding out the cold hard truth.

Because Ingraham shouldn’t have freedom of speech should she, I mean she’s a conservative and they need the keep quiet.

Nobody took away her rights to freedom of speech. Your statement is nothing short of spectacularly wrong.

 

[cnm]

Looks like the rightard media is lying. I'm shocked, shocked.

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Feb 15, 2018
David Hogg, a senior and student reporter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, recorded interviews with some of his classmates on February 14 as they were hiding from an active shooter in the school.​

 

[HappyJoy]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

The right has started or attempted to start many boycotts, don't fool yourse...never mind, too late.

How'd those boycotts against Disney and Starbucks turn out?

Well, they sued to have their 1st amendment rights restored said nobody.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Remember when the left threw a fit when conservatives went after the livelihood of the Dixie Chicks ?
They claimed we were attacking their free speech.

Guess it's ok now.

I don`t remember any leftist throwing a fit. We were too busy celebrating.

You must have been asleep then.

 

[Care4all]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

No, he was NOT, Tiny....that was another one of the RIGHT WING LIES....

there is video of him there at the school in the dark, interviewing other students, and when swat got there.... video of all of them raising their arms as directed by SWAT in their classroom.

You right wing scumbags, made up a LIE on edited info.

Oh so in his CBS interview he lied did he? Is this what you are telling me?

he didn't lie, he was talking about going BACK to the school AFTER he had gotten HOME, he got his video camera and went BACK to the scene of the crime because he knew it would be swarming with the press.... he's a natural born journalist, went with his instincts....

And CBS said their program was edited....I believe they said they would put out the unedited version that would clear things up, but I have not looked for it yet....

HE WAS THERE....your side made up a LIE, an intentional LIE to promote your evil cause of beating this kid up.... all they had to do is google 'Any Hogg video at school?' and it is there to see.... but instead your disgusting kinsmen....made up a LIE and spread it like wildfire, among the weak, feeble minded, vindictive and hateful right wing.

 

[HappyJoy]

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

Depend on a law enforcement officer who refuses to engage the shooter? What part of this did you miss asshole? The police did not engage.

Yep, they didn't engage as soon as they should have. Why that means fellow students and/or teachers should be armed every other day of school is beyond me, there's a good chance they would have just shot each other.

You didn't answer my question. Are you a gun owner who can legally carry concealed or otherwise?

Seriously you haven't after all these years on this board with me not seen what I have had and what I have now? Really? I've been very open about it.

Yeah, but you are know for notoriously lying. So, bad on me for asking.

 

[cnm]

Everytime Hogg's name is mentioned on CNN?MSNBC they refer to him as a "survivor".
The punk was AT HOME, probably playing violent video games when the shooting happened.
Now the lying mutt has attacked John McCain.

So, how full of shit are you?

 

[bodecea]

Remember when the left threw a fit when conservatives went after the livelihood of the Dixie Chicks ?
They claimed we were attacking their free speech.

Guess it's ok now.

I don`t remember any leftist throwing a fit. We were too busy celebrating.

You must have been asleep then.

So...suddenly profanity is bad?

 

[tinydancer]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

If she is...her posts here might change that if seen by mental health specialists.

Bod just an FYI. I'm not the only one recognizing a pattern with you. You're starting the posse shit again. All of us who lived thru Hannity with you know all the tell tale signs. It was not becoming then. And it won't be now.

 

[HappyJoy]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

 

[Hossfly]

Looks like the rightard media is lying. I'm shocked, shocked.

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Feb 15, 2018
David Hogg, a senior and student reporter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, recorded interviews with some of his classmates on February 14 as they were hiding from an active shooter in the school.​

What was the hero journalist doing, hiding in a closet when he should have been charging into the gunfire like Sgt. Rock?

 

[DrLove]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

For every gun fetishist boycotting one of these companies, there will be ten normal people who support them for a savvy business decision.

As for this?

A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
Yes....they want to ban and confiscate guns.