Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[rightwinger]

A 17 year old with a Twitter account forces Fox News to grovel

Is this a great country or what!

 

[cnm]

He's not a survivor.

Who cares? Does that mean his schoolmates didn't get shot?

 

[rightwinger]

UNLIKE FUCKING HOGG WHO WASN'T EVEN AT SCHOOL THAT DAY OF THE MASSACRE.

What difference does that make? Because he wasn't there his schoolmates didn't get shot?

He's not a survivor. He's an opportunist. Actually asking Dan Rather on air for career advice. The HOGG IS A PIG.

Fine young man fighting for justice

 

[HappyJoy]

UNLIKE FUCKING HOGG WHO WASN'T EVEN AT SCHOOL THAT DAY OF THE MASSACRE.

What difference does that make? Because he wasn't there his schoolmates didn't get shot?

He's not a survivor. He's an opportunist. Actually asking Dan Rather on air for career advice. The HOGG IS A PIG.

Hogg was already interested in journalism so why wouldn't he ask Dan Rather for advice?

He also very much was at the school during the shooting, conspiratwat.

 

[rightwinger]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

 

[Care4all]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Did you miss civics class when in high school???

Freedom of speech applies to the US Govt....

The US govenment can not stop you from saying whatever you want to say, against them or others.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Laura Ingraham mouthing off, or David Hogg's 'free speech' when he responded.

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Really?

Is this truly the real person you are or the person you have become...?

So hateful and vindictive and vengeful? And towards a minor who has just been through a tragedy, that no one should ever have to go through or their own young kid should have to go through? He has PTSD as his reason, but what is yours?

I'll pass on your joyfest.....

 

[tinydancer]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

What threat? It will be hysterical if he needs an armed body guard. He's soooooooooooooo against guns. Don't you remember the Rosie shame?



It was priceless. Her going after Magnum and then having an armed bodyguard. It was fucking gold.

 

[Hossfly]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

 

[tinydancer]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

 

[tinydancer]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Did you miss civics class when in high school???

Freedom of speech applies to the US Govt....

The US govenment can not stop you from saying whatever you want to say, against them or others.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Laura Ingraham mouthing off, or David Hogg's 'free speech' when he responded.

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Really?

Is this truly the real person you are or the person you have become...?

So hateful and vindictive and vengeful? And towards a minor who has just been through a tragedy, that no one should ever have to go through or their own young kid should have to go through?

I'll pass on your joyfest.....

This son of a bitch hasn't shed a tear. He's the perfect progressive little piggy. Right at the trough and loving the adulation of assholes who actually consider him a victim of the shooting when he wasn't even there.

 

[bodecea]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Did you miss civics class when in high school???

Freedom of speech applies to the US Govt....

The US govenment can not stop you from saying whatever you want to say, against them or others.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Laura Ingraham mouthing off, or David Hogg's 'free speech' when he responded.

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

So...this is what you've become?....a sad little threatener of physical violence? You are coming across as exactly the kind of mentally ill person who should be kept from guns.

 

[HappyJoy]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

He was in a class room with other students, there is video of this. Then after the students were released he went home. When seeing on the tv that the press were still at the school he then got on his back and rode back. But, hey, you'll believe anything from gatewaypundit or weasilzippers or whatever bullshit place you get your news.

 

[2aguy]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Yes...the democrats hate the 2nd Amendment...but they hate the 1st amendment even more.

 

[dannyboys]

He's not a survivor.

Who cares? Does that mean his schoolmates didn't get shot?

Everytime Hogg's name is mentioned on CNN?MSNBC they refer to him as a "survivor".
The punk was AT HOME, probably playing violent video games when the shooting happened.
Now the lying mutt has attacked John McCain.

 

[tinydancer]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Be armed. Be ready.

 

[rightwinger]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

Why are you still repeating that lie?

I knew you guys would

 

[rightwinger]

He's not a survivor.

Who cares? Does that mean his schoolmates didn't get shot?

Everytime Hogg's name is mentioned on CNN?MSNBC they refer to him as a "survivor".
The punk was AT HOME, probably playing violent video games when the shooting happened.
Now the lying mutt has attacked John McCain.

Another conservative repeating lies

 

[JoeB131]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Nobody is stopping Laura Ingraham from saying whatever she wants.

But if she wants big corporations to pay her to say something, she better not say things that cross certain lines.

This isn't complicated. This isn't new.

On the Right, Bill O'Reilly, Glen Beck and others crossed that line and got pulled... on the left, so did Olbermann.

She wasn't in trouble because she disagreed with Hogg's point, she was in trouble because she attacked him personally.

 

[2aguy]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........