Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[Care4all]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

No, he was NOT, Tiny....that was another one of the RIGHT WING LIES....

there is video of him there at the school in the dark, interviewing other students, and when swat got there.... video of all of them raising their arms as directed by SWAT in their classroom.

You right wing scumbags, made up a LIE on edited info.

 

[bodecea]

It's fantastic watching all the blood cultists terrified of HS students.....karma.

 

[tinydancer]

A 17 year old with a Twitter account forces Fox News to grovel

Is this a great country or what!

Hey twat did you know that FOX is headed now by the two biggest liberal left wing ***** on the planet? And that Media Matters started the war not Anderson Cooper "I"ll take it up the ass sir" Jr aka "my cheeks will take your dick" sir.

FOX is not cowered. Only conservatives can bring it to its knees. And the Murdoch brothers learned over Sean they best not push their agenda.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

 

[tinydancer]

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Sounds like one of those Internet Tough Guy threats.

Pretty pathetic the way conservatives threaten and harass a teen aged student who just survived a mass shooting

He was at home. Like I was. Gee I"M A SURVIVOR TOO!!!!

you pathetic piece of shit. be nicer to me.

No, he was NOT, Tiny....that was another one of the RIGHT WING LIES....

there is video of him there at the school in the dark, interviewing other students, and when swat got there.... video of all of them raising their arms as directed by SWAT in their classroom.

You right wing scumbags, made up a LIE on edited info.

Oh so in his CBS interview he lied did he? Is this what you are telling me?

 

[MrShangles]

Freedom of speech applies to the US government and its relations with its citizens, not to private entities. What on earth are you wittering about?

I didn’t see where freedom of speech only counts when talking to the government, maybe you should read the first amendment for your self.


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[tinydancer]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

Depend on a law enforcement officer who refuses to engage the shooter? What part of this did you miss asshole? The police did not engage.

They let them die. Oh and btw I live in the middle of nowhere and the law could only reach me with a body bag by the time they swung by if I was attacked.

So be armed be ready.

 

[HappyJoy]

The left has set the rules...in the past, Republicans and conservatives have never engaged in this tactic that much....and never in a massive movement...but the cowardice and complicity of corporations with left wing hate groups now needs to be confronted....we have money too...and we need to start boycotting their supporters too........

The right has started or attempted to start many boycotts, don't fool yourse...never mind, too late.

 

[Hossfly]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

The mouthy little pussy doesn't speak for me.That's my opinion. We have enough gun laws to fill a catalog. Have your Representative, Senator and state governor enforce them and take away criminal's guns. It's not up to the Government.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

Depend on a law enforcement officer who refuses to engage the shooter? What part of this did you miss asshole? The police did not engage.

Yep, they didn't engage as soon as they should have. Why that means fellow students and/or teachers should be armed every other day of school is beyond me, there's a good chance they would have just shot each other.

You didn't answer my question. Are you a gun owner who can legally carry concealed or otherwise?

 

[bodecea]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

If she is...her posts here might change that if seen by mental health specialists.

 

[HappyJoy]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

The mouthy little pussy doesn't speak for me.That's my opinion. We have enough gun laws to fill a catalog. Have your Representative, Senator and state governor enforce them and take away criminal's guns. It's not up to the Government.

I'm pretty sure pussy steers clear of you. However, nobody claimed, assumed or otherwise cared if he speaks for you. He speaks for many others and has a right to express that opinion. Ingraham is finding out the cold hard truth.

 

[MrShangles]

UNLIKE FUCKING HOGG WHO WASN'T EVEN AT SCHOOL THAT DAY OF THE MASSACRE.

What difference does that make? Because he wasn't there his schoolmates didn't get shot?

He's not a survivor. He's an opportunist. Actually asking Dan Rather on air for career advice. The HOGG IS A PIG.

Fine young man fighting for justice

Fighting for justice? I haven’t heard him give one realistic idea yet, just spouting off the same blabber, common sense gun control ( what is his idea of common sense gun control?)


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[cnm]

The punk was AT HOME,

Link?

 

[tinydancer]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Did you miss civics class when in high school???

Freedom of speech applies to the US Govt....

The US govenment can not stop you from saying whatever you want to say, against them or others.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Laura Ingraham mouthing off, or David Hogg's 'free speech' when he responded.

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

So...this is what you've become?....a sad little threatener of physical violence? You are coming across as exactly the kind of mentally ill person who should be kept from guns.

Oh stop Bod. You're going low even for you.

I made no threat. I'm mocking the fact that the little catcher is going to need an armed body guard. You know like that other big gun grabber did. Rosie.

All of the gun grabbers mouth off about the 2nd while needing armed body guards.

It's too much fun.

 

[DrLove]

Damn

Did Hogg slap down that hateful bitch or what?

She announced last night she is taking a “vacation”
Hogg doesn’t even have his own cable news program

Buh Bye Hateful Laura - Maybe Trump will hire you as his Czar of Xenophobia?

 

[MrShangles]

You wingnuts are so damn stupid.

David Hogg was simply putting his opinion out there in the free exchange of ideas and as of now 11 of Ingraham's sponsors agree with him over Ingraham. Those sponsors are now using their right of free speech by withdrawing advertisements from a Trump surrogate.

All legal, its all happened before and both sides have utilized boycotts. Apparently the alt-right doesn't like it when the left does it and all they can do is pout.

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

The mouthy little pussy doesn't speak for me.That's my opinion. We have enough gun laws to fill a catalog. Have your Representative, Senator and state governor enforce them and take away criminal's guns. It's not up to the Government.

I'm pretty sure pussy steers clear of you. However, nobody claimed, assumed or otherwise cared if he speaks for you. He speaks for many others and has a right to express that opinion. Ingraham is finding out the cold hard truth.

Because Ingraham shouldn’t have freedom of speech should she, I mean she’s a conservative and they need the keep quiet.


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[DigitalDrifter]

Remember when the left threw a fit when conservatives went after the livelihood of the Dixie Chicks ?
They claimed we were attacking their free speech.

Guess it's ok now.

 

[HappyJoy]

Freedom of speech applies to the US government and its relations with its citizens, not to private entities. What on earth are you wittering about?

I didn’t see where freedom of speech only counts when talking to the government, maybe you should read the first amendment for your self.


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Yep, here it is:

First Amendment - Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is nothing in the first amendment that guarantees Ingraham has a right to advertisers. Advertisers who by the way required almost no push to drop her. No laws were broken, Constitution intact.

 

[cnm]

I didn’t see where freedom of speech only counts when talking to the government

I don't see where I said that. Could you point it out?