Laura Ingraham, David Hogg and the beginning of the end of free speech.

[DigitalDrifter]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

David Hogg, a student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who survived last month's mass shooting and is now a “March for Our Lives” organizer, gave a profanity-laced interview with The Outline earlier this month that was dramatically different from his other media appearances on outlets like CNN or MSNBC.

The Outline described Hogg as “mad as hell” and when they asked him about why he and his fellow students were the ones pushing gun control laws, he said it’s because their parents “don’t know how to use a f**king democracy.”

"It's like when your old-a** parents are like, ‘I don't know how to send an iMessage,' and you're just like, ‘Give me the f**king phone' and you take it and you're like, ‘OK, let me handle it,' and you get it done in one second," Hogg said. "Sadly, that's what we have to do with our government because our parents don't know how to use a f**king democracy, so we have to."

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

 

[HappyJoy]

The MSM hooked their wagon to a falling star. The kid is 100% dead wrong.

Most Americans agree with him, we need stronger gun control laws. But thanks for your worthless opinion that doesn't address my post.

Oh that gun free zone worked did it? That law about not murdering others worked did it?

You fool.

You're literally challenging laws against murder? There is no evidence that gun free zones caused this mass shooting. But none of that addresses my post anyway.

If there is one take away from this tragedy is DONT COUNT ON LAW ENFORCEMENT to protect you. Don't count on you government to prevent a mass killing.

Right, depend on citizens who have no training.

Be armed. Be ready.

Why do I get the feeling you're not allowed to carry.

If she is...her posts here might change that if seen by mental health specialists.

Bod just an FYI. I'm not the only one recognizing a pattern with you. You're starting the posse shit again. All of us who lived thru Hannity with you know all the tell tale signs. It was not becoming then. And it won't be now.

I've been banned for going further off topic than you are now. Maybe keep it to the gun debate rather than trying to generate some sort of groundswell on this board that will never come to fruition over some dingbat conspiracy you want to build around another poster.

 

[cnm]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

Do you deny this?

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school

 

[HappyJoy]

Looks like the rightard media is lying. I'm shocked, shocked.

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Feb 15, 2018
David Hogg, a senior and student reporter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, recorded interviews with some of his classmates on February 14 as they were hiding from an active shooter in the school.​

What was the hero journalist doing, hiding in a closet when he should have been charging into the gunfire like Sgt. Rock?

No, if he would have gotten shot then that would have been one less voice against gun violence. Asking a kid to jump in the line of fire, where are you people headed? Seriously.

 

[Moonglow]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

No one's freedom of speech was suppressed....even though the govt. is the entity of protection of free speech, and this wasn't a matter about the govt. ,and a private business doesn't have to guarantee free speech... The double edged sword as you refer to is and always has been the up and down side to vocalization of what's on one's mind...and boycotts of commercial establishments is not an infringement on free speech, it's merely an economic form of free speech...

 

[Moonglow]

Laura Ingraham, the Fox News host of the Ingraham Angle was riding high as she presided over the fourth most watched cable news show in America. She used her freedom of speech to scrawl an emotional screed critical of David Hogg, a high school student who has become the face of the anti-gun movement. Ingraham, well educated, articulate woman, went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight because she turned to the bathroom stall wall we call Facebook and attacked Hogg with a cheap, signed smear.

Hogg promptly identified her show’s sponsors and called for boycotts which quickly materialized leading Ingraham to take a “planned vacation” which is code for she’s likely gone. Ingraham should have known better.

Whenever or wherever opinions are expressed there is bound to be disagreement because people have different life experiences. This causes most people to reserve personal opinions especially in public settings. In the United States we have the first amendment which essentially means that we can say or write anything so long as what we say or write does not slander or bring harm to others or infringe on the rights of others to express different or unpopular opinions.

The First Amendment is a golden rule of American democracy that sets it apart from most other great civilizations not just in space but in time. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 the event was hailed as a decisive victory for democracies embracing freedom of speech and the table appeared to be set for a golden age of world democracy.

But freedom of speech has a built in flaw: it raises the specter that the people could use it to call for getting rid of it. Just the fact that people are endowed with freedom of speech does not guarantee that they understand its significance or will use it responsibly. When it becomes a means to an end people will find creative ways to abuse it.

Both Laura Ingraham and David Hogg are guilty of abusing freedom of speech. Ingraham went after Hogg with the power of Fox News via Facebook and Hogg went after Ingraham’s livelihood probably on the advice of his political handlers.

Does this balance out? Not really. It’s wrong to crush opposing points of view with power and it’s just as wrong to go after a person’s income because you don’t agree with them.

If we lose freedom of speech here we’ll deserve it.

Did you miss civics class when in high school???

Freedom of speech applies to the US Govt....

The US govenment can not stop you from saying whatever you want to say, against them or others.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Laura Ingraham mouthing off, or David Hogg's 'free speech' when he responded.

He keeps his shit up he's going to regret it.



He's going to need an armed body guard and that will be the sweetest moment evah!!!!!!!

Drinking already? Such schadenfreude thoughts...He's already survived a shooting I am sure he'll survive more, I have...

 

[JoeB131]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

 

[boedicca]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

 

[Hossfly]

Looks like the rightard media is lying. I'm shocked, shocked.

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Feb 15, 2018
David Hogg, a senior and student reporter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, recorded interviews with some of his classmates on February 14 as they were hiding from an active shooter in the school.​

What was the hero journalist doing, hiding in a closet when he should have been charging into the gunfire like Sgt. Rock?

No, if he would have gotten shot then that would have been one less voice against gun violence. Asking a kid to jump in the line of fire, where are you people headed? Seriously.

Seriously, I know many people who have run to the sound of gunfire to protect their buddies. They weren't concerned for their own safety And many of those guys were 18 years old. True story.

 

[HappyJoy]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Yeah, she was addressing a rumor and no mention of the word 'bully' other than from the douche narrating the video.

 

[HappyJoy]

Looks like the rightard media is lying. I'm shocked, shocked.

Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Student reporter interviews classmates hiding from gunman in Florida high school
Feb 15, 2018
David Hogg, a senior and student reporter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, recorded interviews with some of his classmates on February 14 as they were hiding from an active shooter in the school.​

What was the hero journalist doing, hiding in a closet when he should have been charging into the gunfire like Sgt. Rock?

No, if he would have gotten shot then that would have been one less voice against gun violence. Asking a kid to jump in the line of fire, where are you people headed? Seriously.

Seriously, I know many people who have run to the sound of gunfire to protect their buddies. They weren't concerned for their own safety And many of those guys were 18 years old. True story.

So, basically what are you calling every kid in that school? Do you even comprehend what you are saying or are you just looking for excuses to demonize someone you don't agree with? Pathetic.

 

[basquebromance]

'No one is above criticism. When you enter the public discourse you open yourself to the dissection of your arguments and points'

 

[cnm]

So I guess we'll have no more bullshit about Hogg not being at the school while the shooter was rampant. Right?

 

[HappyJoy]

'No one is above criticism. When you enter the public discourse you open yourself to the dissection of your arguments and points'

Valid criticism, not character assassination.

 

[boedicca]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Yeah, she was addressing a rumor and no mention of the word 'bully' other than from the douche narrating the video.

Ostracism is a form of bullying, bub.

 

[JoeB131]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Okay, so it wasn't what Emma said, it was what someone else said she said.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Here's the little know-it-all:

Parkland Survivor David Hogg: 'Our Parents Don't Know How To Use a F**king Democracy So We Have To'

He kind of has a point.

Poll after poll show that majorities favor gun control.

But a small section of the population bullies congress into supporting an insane status quo.

And poll after poll show that majorities support the 2nd Amendment, but we know if we left it up to people like you, we would lose our right to private ownership of firearms.

 

[HappyJoy]

Her biggest mistake? Apologizing to the little mother fucker that was NOT A SURVIVOR but an opportunist. That Hogg bitch deserves to be taken down hard.

On the bright side there is a mega counter protest now launched against any and all of the advertisers who dropped Laura. Conservatives have money too. And its time to destroy any company who decides they want to listen to a mini dictator like Hogg.

Indeed. I'd bet that Hogg actually bullied some of the vicitms, and possibly the shooter. His Comrade Emma has already admitted to ostracizing Cruz in middle school.

She didn't admit to it but nice of you to take the shooter's side.

Yes, she did.

Yeah, she was addressing a rumor and no mention of the word 'bully' other than from the douche narrating the video.

Ostracism is a form of bullying, bub.

Not really. Ostracism could simply be keeping a kid out of a group of friends, who doesn't do that?

Bullying is attacking the person verbally or otherwise.

Anyway, the kid was off, apparently acted out violently so often times ostracism is what you get in return.

 

[JoeB131]

Ostracism is a form of bullying, bub.

is there some kind of disease or mental condition where we all forget what it was like to be a teen or a pre-teen?

This notion that if we just gave Nick Cruz a hug, he'd have been fine is silly.

No, what we needed to do is make sure he couldn't get a gun,a nd we failed.

 

[JohnPrewett]