“Law fare” of the anti-gun extremists…

[bigrebnc1775]

Well, obviously not if he was able to get one and shoot her.

He found the key
Next

 

[2aguy]

Um, it is if she let her crazy son get them and kill 26 people.

You mean he murdered her....you heartless asshat

 

[JoeB131]

He found the key
Next

Then her weapons weren't secure.
Next.

You mean he murdered her....you heartless asshat

You mean after she created him... um, yeah. ANd if he stopped there, I probably wouldn't care.

It was the 20 kids and 6 teachers he killed that are the problem.

It's why Nancy isn't listed as a victim, she's listed as a co-conspirator.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Then her weapons weren't secure.
Next.



You mean after she created him... um, yeah. ANd if he stopped there, I probably wouldn't care.

It was the 20 kids and 6 teachers he killed that are the problem.

It's why Nancy isn't listed as a victim, she's listed as a co-conspirator.

They were reasonably secured. Numbnuts nuclear weapons arent 100% secure

 

[M14 Shooter]

Why does anyone bother responding to Joe?
You know he's just going to lie his ass off.

 

[2aguy]

Then her weapons weren't secure.
Next.



You mean after she created him... um, yeah. ANd if he stopped there, I probably wouldn't care.

It was the 20 kids and 6 teachers he killed that are the problem.

It's why Nancy isn't listed as a victim, she's listed as a co-conspirator.

She was murdered....she was another victim...you are sick.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Ah, let's take this bit of crazy apart, shall we?



You say this like this is a bad thing. The thing that put Remington into bankruptcy was that they sold the weapon used to kill 26 people and Sandy Hook to Adam Lanza's mother, by advertising in a way to appeal to crazy people.





Then you think the gun industry should take efforts to keep people like him from buying guns.

FOR INSTANCE - when the makers of certain medicines found out that their products were being used in the manufacture of Crystal Meth, they took measures to make sure that these products were controlled. They stepped up and did the responsible things, as did the drug stores that distributed their products. Which is why I have to go the Pharmacy Counter to get Claritan D.



Um, okay. Or the gun industry can change their standards and practices, that would help.

Let's be perfectly clear what happened here. The gun industry is not shocked, absolutely shocked that crazy people and criminals are GETTING guns. They want them to get guns. They want them to get guns because that creates fear so that other people want guns as well.

Well, as Rev. Wright once said, "The Chickens are coming home to roost!"

Show us Remington's adverts that "appeal to crazy people ".

Should Ford be sued because a racist murdered 8 people in a vehicle attack?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Obviously, you don't understand how liability works.

Creating a situation where someone could get hurt makes you civilly liable, even if you weren't found criminally liable.

The gun industry knowingly marketed to unstable people like Nancy Lanza. So they bear responsibility when her nutty son went on a rampage.

Remington settled because they didn't want all their internal memos getting entered into evidence, like happened to the tobacco companies.
Makes you wonder what's in those internal memos.

No, Remington did not settle. Indeed, Remington Arms was gone-the settlement was part of the bankruptcy proceeding, the settlement was by insurers.

 

[JoeB131]

They were reasonably secured. Numbnuts nuclear weapons arent 100% secure

Yet oddly, there hasn't been a nuclear attack by an unsecured weapon.

If he could pick up his mother's gun and shoot her while she had her coffee, the guns were not secure.

Show us Remington's adverts that "appeal to crazy people ".

She was murdered....she was another victim...you are sick.

Nope, she was an accomplice.
So were Remington and the Gun Store.
Which is why they paid out millions of dollars to the families

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yet oddly, there hasn't been a nuclear attack by an unsecured weapon.

If he could pick up his mother's gun and shoot her while she had her coffee, the guns were not secure.


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Nope, she was an accomplice.
So were Remington and the Gun Store.
Which is why they paid out millions of dollars to the families

Numbnuts nothing is totally secured. He didn't shoot his mother

 

[Failzero]

Well, obviously not if he was able to get one and shoot her.

Adam like the Nutjob Vet washout That shot Chris Kyle we’re both ( Seeing a Shrink & a Psychologist ) ( On SSRIs )

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Yet oddly, there hasn't been a nuclear attack by an unsecured weapon.

If he could pick up his mother's gun and shoot her while she had her coffee, the guns were not secure.


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Nope, she was an accomplice.
So were Remington and the Gun Store.
Which is why they paid out millions of dollars to the families

That ad is from 2012...lol. Is that best you can do?

 

[JoeB131]

Numbnuts nothing is totally secured. He didn't shoot his mother

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sometime before 9:30 a.m. EST on December 14, 2012, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy Lanza, aged 52, with a .22-caliber Savage Mark II rifle at their Newtown home.[9][10] Investigators later found her body clad in pajamas, in her bed, with four gunshot wounds to her head.[41] Lanza then drove to Sandy Hook Elementary School in his mother's car.[9][42]

 

[JoeB131]

Adam like the Nutjob Vet washout That shot Chris Kyle we’re both ( Seeing a Shrink & a Psychologist ) ( On SSRIs )

And neither one of them should have a gun.

That ad is from 2012...lol. Is that best you can do?

And the shooting happened in December, 2012. Funny how that works.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

And neither one of them should have a gun.



And the shooting happened in December, 2012. Funny how that works.

The shooter stole the gun from his mom's house, after he murdered his mom with a .22 rifle. He didn't buy it...lol

 

[2aguy]

And neither one of them should have a gun.



And the shooting happened in December, 2012. Funny how that works.

12 inidividuals in 2022 committed mass public shootings....out of over 350 million Americans.

The rarest of rare events......more people are hit by lightning every year than commit mass public shootings.....

You just hate gun owners and you want to punish them.

 

[2aguy]

The shooter stole the gun from his mom's house, after he murdered his mom with a .22 rifle. He didn't buy it...lol

Yep...background checks would not have stopped the killer.

 

[JoeB131]

The shooter stole the gun from his mom's house, after he murdered his mom with a .22 rifle. He didn't buy it...lol

You mean after his mother indoctrinated him in the crazy Prepper Gun culture, then decided she was going to put him in an institution after showing him how to use guns, and letting him play first person shooter games all day.

12 inidividuals

Nope, 695.

 

[JoeB131]

Yep...background checks would not have stopped the killer.

Sure they would have. They'd have figured out that Mom was a batshit crazy prepper with a mentally ill son. That should have been a red flag right there.

Instead, they sold her enough guns to fight off the Zombie Apocalypse,

 

[2aguy]

You mean after his mother indoctrinated him in the crazy Prepper Gun culture, then decided she was going to put him in an institution after showing him how to use guns, and letting him play first person shooter games all day.



Nope, 695.

Nope.....

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8



School shootings...

2021....1
2020....0
2019....0
2018.....2
2017....0
2016...0
2015....1 (community college)
2014...1
2013.....0
2012....2
2011....0
2010...0