Lawmakers DESTROY thousands of low education jobs for the poor

Untold jobs are being lost because of stupid liberal policies like these. Wonder why jobs are so slow to return? Wonder no more, an example is right here staring you in the face.

So what's better, a few hundred a month in welfare or a thousand+ in EARNED wages with the potential for growth?
The Grandpa of DIM demonstrates how ignorant he really IS.

Walmart’s Low Wages Cost Taxpayers Millions Each Year
"Due to low wages and few benefits, Walmart workers at a single 300-person Supercenter store rely on anywhere from $904,542 to $1,744,590 in public benefits per year, costing taxpayers, according to a new report from the Democratic staff of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce. "

Walmart's Low Wages Cost Taxpayers Millions Each Year

Wal-Mart's low wages cost taxpayers
"Factoring in what taxpayers contribute for public programs, the report estimated that one Wal-Mart supercenter employing 300 workers could cost taxpayers at least $904,000 annually. "
Wal-Mart's low wages cost taxpayers - Jun. 4, 2013

How taxpayers subsidize union avoidance by Wal-Mart and Nissan
"The Democratic staff report estimates that today the workers in a typical Wal-Mart Supercenter (Wisconsin is used as the example) make use of programs that cost taxpayers at least $904,542 a year and possibly as much as $1.7 million. Since Wal-Mart has more than 3,000 Supercenters in the U.S., plus hundreds of other types of stores, those costs run into the billions."

How taxpayers subsidize union avoidance by Wal-Mart and Nissan

DO ANY OF YOU MORONS actually read?

or just FOX news, intravenously?

AND you fools wonder why you KEEP LOOSING seats in the house and Senate?

cause your BRAINWASHED.

Walmart has a PROFIT of over 8 BILLION per year, for the past 2 years,
while WE spend money to keep their workers ALIVE!
Walmart 2011 Annual Report: Financial Review

sounds like a big subsidy for walmart.

MORONS
 
Walmart may cancel three planned D.C. stores over livable wage act | WJLA.com

Untold jobs are being lost because of stupid liberal policies like these. Wonder why jobs are so slow to return? Wonder no more, an example is right here staring you in the face.

So what's better, a few hundred a month in welfare or a thousand+ in EARNED wages with the potential for growth?

Walmart may cancel three planned D.C. stores over livable wage act | WJLA.com

Untold jobs are being lost because of stupid liberal policies like these. Wonder why jobs are so slow to return? Wonder no more, an example is right here staring you in the face.

So what's better, a few hundred a month in welfare or a thousand+ in EARNED wages with the potential for growth?

It's been estimated that a Walmart store creates about 115 jobs while the independent stores it replaces required about 169 jobs. Fuck Walmart.

Hmmm I'd like to see that link...

Most of the Walmart stores that I know of employ around 300/per including jobs down at the main office for support.

Now I will give yoy that a low wage Walmart Employee probably takes about as much government assistance as the avearge chronically unemployed person and most likely with not a hell of a lot more ot show for it...except maybe self respect.

In the mean time if we combone Sams club and walmart in the US....for a total of 4,625 stores and divde that into the 1.2 million US employees we have....an average of 259 per store and I'm not sure that Sams should be included. Doing the math without Sams leaves us at 299/store...either way they are easily the US's largest employer.

WalMart Company Profile - NYJobSource.com


JO

I couldn't easily find the link and I'm not interested enough to do an exhaustive search. I dunno, maybe they were talking about full time jobs. Your 300 number does sound believable.
 
Walmart may cancel three planned D.C. stores over livable wage act | WJLA.com

Untold jobs are being lost because of stupid liberal policies like these. Wonder why jobs are so slow to return? Wonder no more, an example is right here staring you in the face.

So what's better, a few hundred a month in welfare or a thousand+ in EARNED wages with the potential for growth?

Where is this 1,000 dollars coming from? Wal -Mart. You'll be lucky to earn that much with them.
How can you lose something that does not exist in the first place?
 
Give it another few years...

And a little investment in infrastructure...

WalMart Folk will finally unionize...

And shut down WalMart once or twice with short-term Strikes...

Next thing you know...

WalMart will outsource damned-near everything...

The cashiers will be video-projected faces sitting at a desk someplace in India or China or Mexico or Slovakia or sumfin'...

Ditto for greeters, Customer Service Desk types, ,etc...

And they'll farm-out the shelf-stocking jobs, bakery, deli, etc., to subcontractors...

If the model works, they'd almost certainly roll it out, worldwide.

Would the model work?

Dunno.

Maybe not.

But if anybody has the money and muscle to attempt such a model, it would be those guys.

A future case-study in Union-Busting in the classical sense.

They got rid of the door greeters.
 
You know gramps, it is always the right who needs to diminish people and apply their own nefarious reasons someone is not rich. They are 'lazy', or they are 'moochers'

The conservative world view is what's nefarious. We see in America every day assaults by conservatives on unions, public employees, women's rights, immigrants, the environment, health care, voting rights, food safety, pensions, prenatal care, science, public broadcasting, and on and on.

You are more that welcome to defend conservatism, but I have yet to meet anyone that can do it without diminishing others or requiring some group of human beings to evaporate. It is a negative form of thought that is incompatible with a free and open society. It is anti-democratic in nature and builds nothing, it can only tear things down. The last 30 years are a shining example of conservatism.

Conservatism throughout human history has always created a aristocracy, plutocracy, or some form of oppressive society where there is a ruling class or hierarchy. Today's aristocrats and hierarchy are the CEO's, corporations, free marketeers, and the business elite. Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.

I've lived to see the total failure of two revolutions of extreme ideology. The Bolshevik revolution and the Reagan revolution. Unfettered communism and unfettered capitalism creates the same end...failure.

Conservatism has no investment in human capital. It believes everyone is basically evil, so it treats people accordingly and it always creates a fear of 'others', some group of people that must be excluded or ostracized. Liberalism is faith in human beings and a trust that the human spirit can solve all man-made problems.

So you are more than welcome to defend conservatism, but what you profess is not conservatism, it's narcissism.

Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone

we've got half the country who are on 'socialized' something or other....is this your vision of shangri-la....?

Nation-dependents-Web_0.jpg

Something or other? How about the FACTS??

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

the 47% are those people in the chart.....

i agree people are hurting....many thanks to BO....so what do you propose to do about it....?

force higher living/minimum wages......? won't work...as you can see from the WalMart example....
 
we've got half the country who are on 'socialized' something or other....is this your vision of shangri-la....?

Nation-dependents-Web_0.jpg

Something or other? How about the FACTS??

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

the 47% are those people in the chart.....

i agree people are hurting....many thanks to BO....so what do you propose to do about it....?

force higher living/minimum wages......? won't work...as you can see from the WalMart example....

What Obama policies have caused people to be 'hurting'?
 
Something or other? How about the FACTS??

Who are the 47%?

Federal budget and Census data show that, in 2010, 91 percent of the benefit dollars from entitlement and other mandatory programs went to the elderly (people 65 and over), the seriously disabled, and members of working households. People who are neither elderly nor disabled — and do not live in a working household — received only 9 percent of the benefits.

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.

80 percent of the workforce has seen their wages decline in real terms over the last quarter-century, and the average household has seen 40 percent of its wealth disappear during the Great Recession. Through it all, families never asked for a handout from anyone, especially Washington. They were left to go on their own, working harder, squeezing nickels, and taking care of themselves. But their economic boats have been taking on water for years, and now the crisis has swamped millions of middle class families. ref ref

"Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

the 47% are those people in the chart.....

i agree people are hurting....many thanks to BO....so what do you propose to do about it....?

force higher living/minimum wages......? won't work...as you can see from the WalMart example....

What Obama policies have caused people to be 'hurting'?

virtually all of them....

here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation
 
here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation is hardly a creditable source. It's like citing the Fraser Institute in Canada. These people are 50 paces to the rigft of Attilla the Hun.

As long as their evidence or citations originates from primary sources, where they align isn't relevant.
 
here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation is hardly a creditable source. It's like citing the Fraser Institute in Canada. These people are 50 paces to the rigft of Attilla the Hun.

As long as their evidence or citations originates from primary sources, where they align isn't relevant.
Tut-tut!...You just entertained someone who employed the ad hominem....I'm certain that's amongst the fallacies linked in your sig line! :lol:
 
Energy sector has oil boom!


U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) grew by 2.5% in 2012 after growing 1.6% in 2011, the most the economy has grown since 2006. Nationally, manufacturing, trade and the finance and insurance industry made some of the biggest contributions to growth.

While the national economy grew, some of the country's largest state economies, including California and Texas, increased at an even faster rate. In Texas, population growth and energy production helped boost the state's overall GDP rate of 4.8%. The oil boom also contributed to the impressive 13.4% economic growth in North Dakota.

Top states with the fastest growing economies

Some of the biggest economic growth on a state level came from the booming energy industry. In North Dakota, the mining industry — which includes natural gas and oil extraction — contributed 3.3 percentage points to growth in the state's GDP. The biggest growth of any state in the country came in that sector. Other states also saw significant growth due to their energy industries. West Virginia's natural gas extraction contributed the second highest state GDP growth from the energy and mining sector, at 2.44 percentage points.

The US is doing better at recovery than the rest of the world's economies.
 
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The conservatives claim that the stimulus was a waste, sorry, no it wasn't
“The financial conditions in high-income countries have improved and risks are down, but growth remains subdued, especially in Europe,” the Washington-based lender said in its report.

However, the Bank raised its outlook for the economies of U.S. and Japan, which have benefited from aggressive stimulus measures.

“The recovery is on more solid ground in the United States, where a fairly robust private sector recovery is being held back, but not extinguished, by fiscal tightening. Meanwhile, in Japan, a dramatic relaxation of macroeconomic policy has sparked an uptick in activity, at least over the short term,” the report said.

World Bank Cuts 2013 Global Economic Growth Outlook, Lowers Forecast For China, India, Brazil, Raises Projections For US, Japan
 
The Heritage Foundation is hardly a creditable source. It's like citing the Fraser Institute in Canada. These people are 50 paces to the rigft of Attilla the Hun.

As long as their evidence or citations originates from primary sources, where they align isn't relevant.
Tut-tut!...You just entertained someone who employed the ad hominem....I'm certain that's amongst the fallacies linked in your sig line! :lol:

It is. Normally, if someone uses a fallacy, I just post the type of fallacy and move on. But this one used so often I don't even bother calling anyone out on it anymore. So I generally waive this fallacy.
 
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Energy sector has oil boom!


U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) grew by 2.5% in 2012 after growing 1.6% in 2011, the most the economy has grown since 2006. Nationally, manufacturing, trade and the finance and insurance industry made some of the biggest contributions to growth.

While the national economy grew, some of the country's largest state economies, including California and Texas, increased at an even faster rate. In Texas, population growth and energy production helped boost the state's overall GDP rate of 4.8%. The oil boom also contributed to the impressive 13.4% economic growth in North Dakota.

Top states with the fastest growing economies

Some of the biggest economic growth on a state level came from the booming energy industry. In North Dakota, the mining industry — which includes natural gas and oil extraction — contributed 3.3 percentage points to growth in the state's GDP. The biggest growth of any state in the country came in that sector. Other states also saw significant growth due to their energy industries. West Virginia's natural gas extraction contributed the second highest state GDP growth from the energy and mining sector, at 2.44 percentage points.

The US is doing better at recovery than the rest of the world's economies.

it's about the only bright spot in our economy.....(think what could happen if it was fully unleashed...)

however as i pointed out earlier.....no thanks to Obama policies....
 
The conservatives claim that the stimulus was a waste, sorry, no it wasn't
“The financial conditions in high-income countries have improved and risks are down, but growth remains subdued, especially in Europe,” the Washington-based lender said in its report.

However, the Bank raised its outlook for the economies of U.S. and Japan, which have benefited from aggressive stimulus measures.

“The recovery is on more solid ground in the United States, where a fairly robust private sector recovery is being held back, but not extinguished, by fiscal tightening. Meanwhile, in Japan, a dramatic relaxation of macroeconomic policy has sparked an uptick in activity, at least over the short term,” the report said.

World Bank Cuts 2013 Global Economic Growth Outlook, Lowers Forecast For China, India, Brazil, Raises Projections For US, Japan

Y/Y GDP Growth:

India: 6.33%
China: 9.30%
Brazil: 2.73%

United States: 3.10%
Japan: .4%

In order to have a downward revision, you actually have to have some modicum of economic growth. The US and Japan's economic growth pales in comparison to most countries. All the stimulus has every bought the United States was 2% GDP annualised on average. Nothing really worth being proud over.
 
the 47% are those people in the chart.....

i agree people are hurting....many thanks to BO....so what do you propose to do about it....?

force higher living/minimum wages......? won't work...as you can see from the WalMart example....

What Obama policies have caused people to be 'hurting'?

virtually all of them....

here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation

"Energy which could transform our economy"? Transform our nation into a toxic garbage can. That is a list from HELL. It is the wish list of biggest polluters in America.

You cocksuckers are a MUCH bigger threat to America than all the terrorists on the planet.

Take a look at who funds the Heritage Foundation. It is the biggest polluters on this planet. Their wish list is to treat the planet as if were a business in liquidation, to convert our natural resource to cash as quickly as possible, to have a few years of pollution-based prosperity, generate an instantaneous cash flow and the illusion of a prosperous economy. But our children are going to pay for our joyride. They're going to pay for it with muted landscapes, poor health, and huge cleanup costs that are going to amplify over time, and that they will never, ever be able to pay off. Environmental injury is deficit spending. It's a way of loading the cost of our generation's prosperity onto the backs of our children.
 
What Obama policies have caused people to be 'hurting'?

virtually all of them....

here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation

"Energy which could transform our economy"? Transform our nation into a toxic garbage can. That is a list from HELL. It is the wish list of biggest polluters in America.

You cocksuckers are a MUCH bigger threat to America than all the terrorists on the planet.

Take a look at who funds the Heritage Foundation. It is the biggest polluters on this planet. Their wish list is to treat the planet as if were a business in liquidation, to convert our natural resource to cash as quickly as possible, to have a few years of pollution-based prosperity, generate an instantaneous cash flow and the illusion of a prosperous economy. But our children are going to pay for our joyride. They're going to pay for it with muted landscapes, poor health, and huge cleanup costs that are going to amplify over time, and that they will never, ever be able to pay off. Environmental injury is deficit spending. It's a way of loading the cost of our generation's prosperity onto the backs of our children.

so again...what do you think is the solution.....?
 
It seems you believe all that propaganda.
Take a look at the stock market lately?
The overall aspect of it for the past 6 yrs.
Get back to us when you have made a rationale conclusion, not one from hatred.

the 47% are those people in the chart.....

i agree people are hurting....many thanks to BO....so what do you propose to do about it....?

force higher living/minimum wages......? won't work...as you can see from the WalMart example....

What Obama policies have caused people to be 'hurting'?

virtually all of them....

here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation
 
No, you try it again and try to stay out of the quagmire that the wealthy and the right have put you in. If the tax code needed to be revamped for "all" it would have been done decades ago. It has but in the favor of the wealthy but you don't seem to be able to grasp the entire outlook. It is income for mitten's and all those like him, they use a different vernacular and you haven't the slightest idea of what they are doing.

Oh well.
It is a never ending battle to try and convince someone they are wrong when they have no idea what they are talking about.



You might want to rethink what you are saying. Why would someone with mittens money want to close loopholes. They help him lower his tax rate to 12%. You must really like to be shoveled shit towards you and enjoy it immensely .
If there was any way possible to change the tax laws in this country, those who have the politicians in their back pockets would have changed them long ago.
So it is you who has things ass backwards.



You got it ass-backwards, dewd.

Republicans want lower statutory rates along with closing loopholes.

Or didn't you watch the Romney Campaign at all?

Didn't think so

THINK for a minute.

I know that's tough, but try it.

We're talking INCOME Tax here, genius.

Not Wealth Tax.

There is no such thing as a Wealth Tax in this Country. Yet.

Romney has no Income other than on some stocks and investments which are mostly taxed at the Capital Gains rate.

You wanna talk Capital Gains (like you even know what that is) then fine, let's do it.

You wanna talk Income Tax, stick to Income.

shit
 
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virtually all of them....

here's 10 ways Obama has hurt energy....energy which could transform our economy and create millions of good paying jobs....

10 Ways the Obama Administration Is Hurting America's Energy Economy | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News Blog from The Heritage Foundation

"Energy which could transform our economy"? Transform our nation into a toxic garbage can. That is a list from HELL. It is the wish list of biggest polluters in America.

You cocksuckers are a MUCH bigger threat to America than all the terrorists on the planet.

Take a look at who funds the Heritage Foundation. It is the biggest polluters on this planet. Their wish list is to treat the planet as if were a business in liquidation, to convert our natural resource to cash as quickly as possible, to have a few years of pollution-based prosperity, generate an instantaneous cash flow and the illusion of a prosperous economy. But our children are going to pay for our joyride. They're going to pay for it with muted landscapes, poor health, and huge cleanup costs that are going to amplify over time, and that they will never, ever be able to pay off. Environmental injury is deficit spending. It's a way of loading the cost of our generation's prosperity onto the backs of our children.

so again...what do you think is the solution.....?

Pedal cars and rubber band engines
 

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