Leaked emails reveals Clintons true gun control intentions

[Preacher]

You don't consider him a nationalist? Hm. I figured him for an American Nationalist.

He traveles to and does business in/with other countries. That doesn't sound like a Nationalist to me.

mmmhmm...OK...lol. A nationalist is someone that puts his country first. Hitler was a NATIONAL socialist but he still did business and made pacts with other nations.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

"Shall no be infringed," moron.

A well regulated militia being necessary for a free state

How do you regulate your militia without knowing who your gun owners are? At the founding of our nation, all qualified males were required to report which weapons they had

 

[S.J.]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

Again, it doesn't HAVE TO. As bripat has pointed out more than once, "shall not be infringed" means you can't do ANYTHING to change it. That includes imposing background checks and all the other bullshit you liberals keep trying to do to water down our rights.

 

[rightwinger]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

Again, it doesn't HAVE TO. As bripat has pointed out more than once, "shall not be infringed" means you can't do ANYTHING to change it. That includes imposing background checks and all the other bullshit you liberals keep trying to do to water down our rights.

Registration does not infringe gun ownership. Neither do background checks...see Heller

 

[S.J.]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

Again, it doesn't HAVE TO. As bripat has pointed out more than once, "shall not be infringed" means you can't do ANYTHING to change it. That includes imposing background checks and all the other bullshit you liberals keep trying to do to water down our rights.

Registration does not infringe gun ownership. Neither do background checks...see Heller

A matter of opinion, but since the Constitution does not say anything about registration or background checks, you're out of luck. "Shall not be infringed".

 

[Contumacious]

NRA-ILA | Leaked Emails Reveal Clinton’s True Gun Control Intentions

Will the people stand for it? Will cops actually disarm people? National Guard? I REALLY want Trump to win but next to that I want this bitch to just try this....I can already see the vision of her marched from her cell along with Obama and Kaine up the scaffold steps the rope placed around her turkey gizzard neck ...after a trial for treason of course Man that will be the day the people regain a set of balls and arrest and convict ALL politicians and punish the worst with execution. Legal as can be.

Yes, indeed.

Her approach will also include nominating anti-gunners as "SCOTUS "justices" who will claim that Americans NEVER HAD A RIGHT TO FIREARMS - that they only have a PRIVILEGE to bear arms which is subject to bureaucratic discretion, ie a privilege. Read the dissenters opinion in Heller.


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[Anathema]

mmmhmm...OK...lol. A nationalist is someone that puts his country first. Hitler was a NATIONAL socialist but he still did business and made pacts with other nations.

No. A Nationalist is someone who places value ONLY on their nation. A true Nationalist is inherently an Isolationist as well.

 

[Redpath]

mmmhmm...OK...lol. A nationalist is someone that puts his country first. Hitler was a NATIONAL socialist but he still did business and made pacts with other nations.

No. A Nationalist is someone who places value ONLY on their nation. A true Nationalist is inherently an Isolationist as well.

His father was KKK and there's no doubt he agrees with and inherited that sickness but he's mostly just afraid of blacks, Jews, women, Hispanics, etc. And he's terrified of real men.

 

[bripat9643]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

"Shall no be infringed," moron.

A well regulated militia being necessary for a free state

How do you regulate your militia without knowing who your gun owners are? At the founding of our nation, all qualified males were required to report which weapons they had

What part of that statement contains any enforceable content? It's purely explanatory.

"Well regulated" in the vernacular of the day meant "well trained and well drilled." It doesn't mean regulated in the sense of government regulation. That's a lie that douche bags like you have been trying to foist on the public for the last 100 years.

 

[Anathema]

His father was KKK and there's no doubt he agrees with and inherited that sickness but he's mostly just afraid of blacks, Jews, women, Hispanics, etc. And he's terrified of real men.

To me it's about Propriety, not Fear. There is a Proper way for people to live. Any nation, Society, Culture, etc.... that is not following those principles has no value.

 

[2aguy]

Actually I just registered as a republican on Monday. Just to vote for Trump before that I was an independent.

you forgot to say your a stupid independent use to be, now repub-lie-tard we get it we saw your post

I don't consider myself a republican but had to change to vote for Trump If he loses I will change back.... Back to your crying now.

now I ask you all out there ... have any of you voter ever saw a ballot where it didn't have both parties on it ??? just saying .... here's this moron here who said he had to change his ballot to republican so he can vote republican ... is that stupid or what ???? really !!!!! I ask you have you ever seen such a moronic statement ever ... now you know why we say repub-lie-tards are retarded

You go in they ask you what ballot you want. Might be different in your state. I wonder if this idiotic statement of yours is as stupid as not knowing about the non existent gun show loophole LOL

Because criminals do not buy firearms at gunshows! They buy them on the black market and/or steal them. Dealers at gun shows have to follow the law. Criminals do not follow the law. Duh! And if some thug father is going to give his thug son a gun to commit crime, no law in the world is going to stop him. THAT'S why I oppose your bullshit regulation.

Why do you want to impede the ability of good people to defend themselves?

A car, eh? You want to handle firearms like we handle cars? Great! Keep in mind:

• One does NOT need a background check to buy a car;
• One does NOT need a license to operate a car on their own property, only if they operate the vehicle on public roads; and
• The purchase and operation of a vehicle is dictated by state laws, the Feds have ZERO say.

Deal!

Other than those who want to drive up and down their driveway...

We require you to be licensed, track each purchase, register each vehicle and require insurance

I'm OK with doing that for guns if you are

Licensing gun owners does nothing to stop crime or mass shootings and on top of that it would be a Literacy test on the Right to bear arms...which is unConstitutional.

lets see the guys in littleton colorado license gun owner ... the guy that kill all these children at sandy hook, license gun owner ... the guy who shot the people in colorado at the movie theater, license gun owner ... all of them had one thing in common they were nut cases ... hillary want all nut cases not to be able to buy guns... you're agai9ns that right??? cause only license gun owneres are the ones who never commit a crime right???

Moron....what did licensing gun owners do to stop these mass shootings? are you really this fucking stupid....? What does licensing gun owners do to stop the 9,616 gun murders in 2015....90% of them committed by people who could not get a gun license, they can't buy, own or carry a gun...

so please, genius....what is the point to licensing law abiding gun owners?

and every single shooting you point out...was a gun free zone...created by morons like you to stop mass shootings at those locations........so law abiding gun owners left their guns at home...and the killers had gun free killing zones .......

and another gun nut goes off the deep end... you keep making a fool of yourself ... thoses killers had one thing in common ... they were nut cases ... nut cases with the anility to buy a gun you idiot pull you head out of your ass ... Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold bought their guns at a gun show ... why ??? they didn't have to go through a back ground check ... moron

No...they didn't buy their guns at a gun show.....they bought their guns illegally since they were under age....twit...

 

[2aguy]

Actually I just registered as a republican on Monday. Just to vote for Trump before that I was an independent.

you forgot to say your a stupid independent use to be, now repub-lie-tard we get it we saw your post

I don't consider myself a republican but had to change to vote for Trump If he loses I will change back.... Back to your crying now.

now I ask you all out there ... have any of you voter ever saw a ballot where it didn't have both parties on it ??? just saying .... here's this moron here who said he had to change his ballot to republican so he can vote republican ... is that stupid or what ???? really !!!!! I ask you have you ever seen such a moronic statement ever ... now you know why we say repub-lie-tards are retarded

You go in they ask you what ballot you want. Might be different in your state. I wonder if this idiotic statement of yours is as stupid as not knowing about the non existent gun show loophole LOL

Because criminals do not buy firearms at gunshows! They buy them on the black market and/or steal them. Dealers at gun shows have to follow the law. Criminals do not follow the law. Duh! And if some thug father is going to give his thug son a gun to commit crime, no law in the world is going to stop him. THAT'S why I oppose your bullshit regulation.

Why do you want to impede the ability of good people to defend themselves?

A car, eh? You want to handle firearms like we handle cars? Great! Keep in mind:

• One does NOT need a background check to buy a car;
• One does NOT need a license to operate a car on their own property, only if they operate the vehicle on public roads; and
• The purchase and operation of a vehicle is dictated by state laws, the Feds have ZERO say.

Deal!

Other than those who want to drive up and down their driveway...

We require you to be licensed, track each purchase, register each vehicle and require insurance

I'm OK with doing that for guns if you are

Licensing gun owners does nothing to stop crime or mass shootings and on top of that it would be a Literacy test on the Right to bear arms...which is unConstitutional.

lets see the guys in littleton colorado license gun owner ... the guy that kill all these children at sandy hook, license gun owner ... the guy who shot the people in colorado at the movie theater, license gun owner ... all of them had one thing in common they were nut cases ... hillary want all nut cases not to be able to buy guns... you're agai9ns that right??? cause only license gun owneres are the ones who never commit a crime right???

Moron....what did licensing gun owners do to stop these mass shootings? are you really this fucking stupid....? What does licensing gun owners do to stop the 9,616 gun murders in 2015....90% of them committed by people who could not get a gun license, they can't buy, own or carry a gun...

so please, genius....what is the point to licensing law abiding gun owners?

and every single shooting you point out...was a gun free zone...created by morons like you to stop mass shootings at those locations........so law abiding gun owners left their guns at home...and the killers had gun free killing zones .......

and another gun nut goes off the deep end... you keep making a fool of yourself ... thoses killers had one thing in common ... they were nut cases ... nut cases with the anility to buy a gun you idiot pull you head out of your ass ... Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold bought their guns at a gun show ... why ??? they didn't have to go through a back ground check ... moron

Moron...they got the gun from a friend...he bought them at a gun show......legally, and sold them to the two...illegally....

Columbine High School massacre - Wikipedia

Their friend, Robyn Anderson, had inadvertently[30] bought a rifle and the two shotguns used in the massacre at the Tanner Gun Show in December 1998.[31]

 

[jasonnfree]

She's made too many statements to indicate her opposition to the second amendment, and with 3 or 4 more SC justices, the second amendment would be all but gone.

Exactly where has she opposed 2nd amendment rights. Can you post her comments?

hillary and the gun grabbers want to get rid of private ownership of guns. That's the goal. Because of the 2nd Amendment the gun grabbers have to go after guns by bits and pieces. Go after the guns by type. Who needs a 13 round clip, who needs a .357 caliber, pretty soon, who needs a double action revolver, on and on. Then go after owners bit by bit. Bubba did some time in the slammer? Now he's not allowed near a gun. Take certain types of medications? Not safe for you to have a gun even though hillary is on life support and loaded up with meds, and they want her in charge of the military. The next criterion for gun ownership will be to have a perfect credit rating since it shows responsiblility etc. It's all supposedly to protect the innocent. If that were the case, the same people that want to grab guns, wouldn't be so criminally negligent as to bring tens of thousands of muslims here from the middle east.

 

[brummelben]

She's made too many statements to indicate her opposition to the second amendment, and with 3 or 4 more SC justices, the second amendment would be all but gone.

Exactly where has she opposed 2nd amendment rights. Can you post her comments?

hillary and the gun grabbers want to get rid of private ownership of guns. That's the goal. Because of the 2nd Amendment the gun grabbers have to go after guns by bits and pieces. Go after the guns by type. Who needs a 13 round clip, who needs a .357 caliber, pretty soon, who needs a double action revolver, on and on. Then go after owners bit by bit. Bubba did some time in the slammer? Now he's not allowed near a gun Take certain types of medications? The next criterion for gun ownership will be to have a perfect credit rating since it shows responsiblility etc. Not safe for you to have a gun even though hillary is on life support and loaded up with meds, and they want her in charge of the military. It's all supposedly to protect the innocent. If that were the case, the same people that want to grab guns, wouldn't be so criminally negligent as to bring tens of thousands of muslims here from the middle east.

your post is one huge lie, do you really believe the krap you post?

 

[2aguy]

Actually I just registered as a republican on Monday. Just to vote for Trump before that I was an independent.

you forgot to say your a stupid independent use to be, now repub-lie-tard we get it we saw your post

I don't consider myself a republican but had to change to vote for Trump If he loses I will change back.... Back to your crying now.

now I ask you all out there ... have any of you voter ever saw a ballot where it didn't have both parties on it ??? just saying .... here's this moron here who said he had to change his ballot to republican so he can vote republican ... is that stupid or what ???? really !!!!! I ask you have you ever seen such a moronic statement ever ... now you know why we say repub-lie-tards are retarded

You go in they ask you what ballot you want. Might be different in your state. I wonder if this idiotic statement of yours is as stupid as not knowing about the non existent gun show loophole LOL

Because criminals do not buy firearms at gunshows! They buy them on the black market and/or steal them. Dealers at gun shows have to follow the law. Criminals do not follow the law. Duh! And if some thug father is going to give his thug son a gun to commit crime, no law in the world is going to stop him. THAT'S why I oppose your bullshit regulation.

Why do you want to impede the ability of good people to defend themselves?

A car, eh? You want to handle firearms like we handle cars? Great! Keep in mind:

• One does NOT need a background check to buy a car;
• One does NOT need a license to operate a car on their own property, only if they operate the vehicle on public roads; and
• The purchase and operation of a vehicle is dictated by state laws, the Feds have ZERO say.

Deal!

Other than those who want to drive up and down their driveway...

We require you to be licensed, track each purchase, register each vehicle and require insurance

I'm OK with doing that for guns if you are

Licensing gun owners does nothing to stop crime or mass shootings and on top of that it would be a Literacy test on the Right to bear arms...which is unConstitutional.

lets see the guys in littleton colorado license gun owner ... the guy that kill all these children at sandy hook, license gun owner ... the guy who shot the people in colorado at the movie theater, license gun owner ... all of them had one thing in common they were nut cases ... hillary want all nut cases not to be able to buy guns... you're agai9ns that right??? cause only license gun owneres are the ones who never commit a crime right???

Moron....what did licensing gun owners do to stop these mass shootings? are you really this fucking stupid....? What does licensing gun owners do to stop the 9,616 gun murders in 2015....90% of them committed by people who could not get a gun license, they can't buy, own or carry a gun...

so please, genius....what is the point to licensing law abiding gun owners?

and every single shooting you point out...was a gun free zone...created by morons like you to stop mass shootings at those locations........so law abiding gun owners left their guns at home...and the killers had gun free killing zones .......

and another gun nut goes off the deep end... you keep making a fool of yourself ... thoses killers had one thing in common ... they were nut cases ... nut cases with the anility to buy a gun you idiot pull you head out of your ass ... Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold bought their guns at a gun show ... why ??? they didn't have to go through a back ground check ... moron

See, moron...they got their guns from a straw buyer...who bypassed the background check for them because she was able to pass the background check....so even if you have fucking universal background checks, she still could have bought the guns for them...since she could already pass the fucking background check....

There is nothing that you know about guns that is true, factual or based in reality.....

Robyn Anderson

Robyn Anderson was a close friend to Dylan and partially knew Eric. In November or December of 1998, Anderson and both boys went to a store that sold firearms. Anderson purchased three of the guns for Eric and Dylan, who were both under aged and could not acquire them themselves. These guns were the Hi-point Carbine rifle, the pump action shotgun, and the double barrelled shotgun. She was unaware what they intended to use the guns for at the time. Once the guns were purchased, Eric and Dylan would saw the barrels of their shotguns for easy concealability.

 

[2aguy]

A purposefully deceitful misnomer. Firearms dealers are subject to the same laws whether they sell at a retail strip mall, a gunshow, or out of their personal garage. What you're proposing is that we outlaw a father giving his son grandpa's rifle.

That you have zero evidence such a new law would prevent a single crime is telling.

I think you should need a background check to give your family a book. Deal?

Then why would you oppose closing a gun show loophole?

Why do you want to sell to criminals?

If a father gives his son grandpas car, he must report it

Because criminals do not buy firearms at gunshows! They buy them on the black market and/or steal them. Dealers at gun shows have to follow the law. Criminals do not follow the law. Duh! And if some thug father is going to give his thug son a gun to commit crime, no law in the world is going to stop him. THAT'S why I oppose your bullshit regulation.

Why do you want to impede the ability of good people to defend themselves?

A car, eh? You want to handle firearms like we handle cars? Great! Keep in mind:

• One does NOT need a background check to buy a car;
• One does NOT need a license to operate a car on their own property, only if they operate the vehicle on public roads; and
• The purchase and operation of a vehicle is dictated by state laws, the Feds have ZERO say.

Deal!

Other than those who want to drive up and down their driveway...

We require you to be licensed, track each purchase, register each vehicle and require insurance

I'm OK with doing that for guns if you are

Licensing gun owners does nothing to stop crime or mass shootings and on top of that it would be a Literacy test on the Right to bear arms...which is unConstitutional.

Sure does

It works in the rest of the civilized world

Wrong.....our non gun murder rate is higher than the total murder rate of other countries...it is their culture, not access to guns that keeps their gun murder rate low....

Britain banned guns and their gun crime rate did not change..in fact, it went up 4% over all in the country last year and up 10% in London and the other major cities...

Australia is now experiencing increasing gun crime...they now call Melbourne, the City of the Gun........

we have an urban crime population that kills easily and for little or no reason......we allow repeat felons with multiple illegal gun possession felonies to go back on the streets with less than a year in jail...diverted by left wing judges to "Boot Camps" instead of long prison sentences.......

we don't have a gun problem.......we have a criminal problem.

 

[2aguy]

specific proposals she would support as President - universal background checks of course, but also closing the gun show loophole by executive orderand imposing manufacturer liability.

Works for me

A purposefully deceitful misnomer. Firearms dealers are subject to the same laws whether they sell at a retail strip mall, a gunshow, or out of their personal garage. What you're proposing is that we outlaw a father giving his son grandpa's rifle.

That you have zero evidence such a new law would prevent a single crime is telling.

I think you should need a background check to give your family a book. Deal?

Then why would you oppose closing a gun show loophole?

Why do you want to sell to criminals?

If a father gives his son grandpas car, he must report it

The Constitution doesn't say anything about the right to keep and bear cars.

Doesn't say anything about not registering guns or their owners either

It says shall not be infringed ...registering guns is the first step to doing that as Germany, Britain and Australia show....

 

[2aguy]

Hillary supports background checks, closing the gun show loophole and holding gun companies liable

Color me shocked

And all of those are lies....

We have background checks...which criminals get around easily....she wants universal background checks which will be gotten around just as easily but with less regularity because criminals don't use private sellers they don't know...they use friends and family......

she and her gun grabbers want universal background checks to get gun registration

There is no gun show loophole...private individuals can sell their own guns without background checks at a Denny's, at their home or at a gun show.......no loophole..that is the law....

gun companies are already held liable for defective products, just like any other business.....the gun grabbers want to use legal warfare to shut down the gun makers through law suits that will drive them into bankruptcy or out of the country...for having done nothing wrong.......committing no unlawful act.......

 

[2aguy]

Hillary wants background checks, closing loopholes on purchases and gun company liability

So do most Americans

Um, no they don't. And even if they did, the second amendment is a right. You don't seem to understand that.

Nothing in the second amendment against it

Again, it doesn't HAVE TO. As bripat has pointed out more than once, "shall not be infringed" means you can't do ANYTHING to change it. That includes imposing background checks and all the other bullshit you liberals keep trying to do to water down our rights.

Registration does not infringe gun ownership. Neither do background checks...see Heller

They both do....see Heller...

 

[jasonnfree]

She's made too many statements to indicate her opposition to the second amendment, and with 3 or 4 more SC justices, the second amendment would be all but gone.

Exactly where has she opposed 2nd amendment rights. Can you post her comments?

hillary and the gun grabbers want to get rid of private ownership of guns. That's the goal. Because of the 2nd Amendment the gun grabbers have to go after guns by bits and pieces. Go after the guns by type. Who needs a 13 round clip, who needs a .357 caliber, pretty soon, who needs a double action revolver, on and on. Then go after owners bit by bit. Bubba did some time in the slammer? Now he's not allowed near a gun Take certain types of medications? The next criterion for gun ownership will be to have a perfect credit rating since it shows responsiblility etc. Not safe for you to have a gun even though hillary is on life support and loaded up with meds, and they want her in charge of the military. It's all supposedly to protect the innocent. If that were the case, the same people that want to grab guns, wouldn't be so criminally negligent as to bring tens of thousands of muslims here from the middle east.

your post is one huge lie, do you really believe the krap you post?

Tell me where it's a lie. Better yet, don't read or remark on any of my posts, since you're either too lazy or not capable of an intelligent response.

specific proposals she would support as President - universal background checks of course, but also closing the gun show loophole by executive orderand imposing manufacturer liability.

Works for me

A purposefully deceitful misnomer. Firearms dealers are subject to the same laws whether they sell at a retail strip mall, a gunshow, or out of their personal garage. What you're proposing is that we outlaw a father giving his son grandpa's rifle.

That you have zero evidence such a new law would prevent a single crime is telling.

I think you should need a background check to give your family a book. Deal?

Then why would you oppose closing a gun show loophole?

Why do you want to sell to criminals?

If a father gives his son grandpas car, he must report it

The Constitution doesn't say anything about the right to keep and bear cars.

Doesn't say anything about not registering guns or their owners either

It says shall not be infringed ...registering guns is the first step to doing that as Germany, Britain and Australia show....

Shall not be infringed is

specific proposals she would support as President - universal background checks of course, but also closing the gun show loophole by executive orderand imposing manufacturer liability.

Works for me

A purposefully deceitful misnomer. Firearms dealers are subject to the same laws whether they sell at a retail strip mall, a gunshow, or out of their personal garage. What you're proposing is that we outlaw a father giving his son grandpa's rifle.

That you have zero evidence such a new law would prevent a single crime is telling.

I think you should need a background check to give your family a book. Deal?

Then why would you oppose closing a gun show loophole?

Why do you want to sell to criminals?

If a father gives his son grandpas car, he must report it

The Constitution doesn't say anything about the right to keep and bear cars.

Doesn't say anything about not registering guns or their owners either

It says shall not be infringed ...registering guns is the first step to doing that as Germany, Britain and Australia show....

One step at a time since the gun grabbers know that they can't do it in one fell swoop. Like I said, if safety of the public was a concern of hillary and her supporters, then they wouldn't be importing tens of thousands of unvetted muslims to our country.