Leftism: A Perfect Track Record Of Failure...

Trying to play hot potato with Hitler's legacy is pointless. Consider the following.

The one dimensional "left vs. right" spectrum isn't a spectrum. It's wholly inadequate for explaining where someone's politics really lie. It's lacking the authoritarian vs. libertarian y axis. It's lacking a "individualist vs. collectivist" axis as well, which sorta overlaps with the authoritarian vs. libertarian, but nonetheless.

So, you've got your wholly inadequate "right vs. left." Now what defines right vs. left? Basically, the republican and democratic parties. Democrats left, republicans right. Considering that, look at where both were 50 years ago. Quite a bit different than they are now, and that'll always continue.

So trying to peg Hitler into modern democrat vs. republican just doesn't work. He and his legacy match both sides in some respects. And beyond that, the idea of continually trying to pass Hitler off onto each other is just more hyperbole and sensationalism that takes people's attention off what's really going on and toxifies the conversation to where no one can have an honest discussion.
But looking at today's nazis, they're running as republican, and winning. Why arent they running as democrats?
Nazi's in the 1930's imprisoned socialists and communists before they put jews into those same concentration camps. Also during the 1930's, capitalism did well in germany.
As far as religion goes, they pushed their own version of christianity. an anti-jew new-testament christianity; twisted.
The Nazi Party in the US today consists of about 12 people. Stop allowing leftist media to gas light you.
There are hundreds of white supremacy groups
They just don’t call themselves Nazis or KKK
No doubt you fear them greatly...just as your bosses in the DNCMSM tell you to.

Why do you believe the Ruling Class? You have nothing in common with them.
 
Trying to play hot potato with Hitler's legacy is pointless. Consider the following.

The one dimensional "left vs. right" spectrum isn't a spectrum. It's wholly inadequate for explaining where someone's politics really lie. It's lacking the authoritarian vs. libertarian y axis. It's lacking a "individualist vs. collectivist" axis as well, which sorta overlaps with the authoritarian vs. libertarian, but nonetheless.

So, you've got your wholly inadequate "right vs. left." Now what defines right vs. left? Basically, the republican and democratic parties. Democrats left, republicans right. Considering that, look at where both were 50 years ago. Quite a bit different than they are now, and that'll always continue.

So trying to peg Hitler into modern democrat vs. republican just doesn't work. He and his legacy match both sides in some respects. And beyond that, the idea of continually trying to pass Hitler off onto each other is just more hyperbole and sensationalism that takes people's attention off what's really going on and toxifies the conversation to where no one can have an honest discussion.
But looking at today's nazis, they're running as republican, and winning. Why arent they running as democrats?
Nazi's in the 1930's imprisoned socialists and communists before they put jews into those same concentration camps. Also during the 1930's, capitalism did well in germany.
As far as religion goes, they pushed their own version of christianity. an anti-jew new-testament christianity; twisted.
The Nazi Party in the US today consists of about 12 people. Stop allowing leftist media to gas light you.
There are hundreds of white supremacy groups
They just don’t call themselves Nazis or KKK
No doubt you fear them greatly...just as your bosses in the DNCMSM tell you to.

Why do you believe the Ruling Class? You have nothing in common with them.
Fear them?
No

I just wonder why Republicans tolerate them
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Here's an article about Einstein. More of a lefty than anything else.
If Einstein were alive today the manchild in the white house would probably be tweeting him insults on a daily basis.

What Were Albert Einstein's Political Opinions?

Did you read the article? Doesn't sound like it.
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
hitler himself, at the time, wasn't a leftist.

His ideals would be American leftist today.

American leftist want government tyranny, clearly they want it, they can see the benefits of a lopsided media, a censoring social media, tyrannical colleges and universities.

they just need enough control to rid America of that peaky Constitution, the their masters will tell them what to vote for and whallah, democratic tyranny guised and freedom.


we can see it coming and so can the leftists.

Yes, the Nazis believed in absolute Government control of Citizens' lives. All Socialists believe in that. There were only slight differences between the Nazi Party and Communist Party in Germany. Both were Authoritarian/Totalitarian.
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
hitler himself, at the time, wasn't a leftist.

His ideals would be American leftist today.

American leftist want government tyranny, clearly they want it, they can see the benefits of a lopsided media, a censoring social media, tyrannical colleges and universities.

they just need enough control to rid America of that peaky Constitution, the their masters will tell them what to vote for and whallah, democratic tyranny guised and freedom.


we can see it coming and so can the leftists.

Yes, the Nazis believed in absolute Government control of Citizens' lives. All Socialists believe in that. There were only slight differences between the Nazi Party and Communist Party in Germany. Both were Authoritarian/Totalitarian.
They are at opposite ends of the political spectrum
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
hitler himself, at the time, wasn't a leftist.

His ideals would be American leftist today.

American leftist want government tyranny, clearly they want it, they can see the benefits of a lopsided media, a censoring social media, tyrannical colleges and universities.

they just need enough control to rid America of that peaky Constitution, the their masters will tell them what to vote for and whallah, democratic tyranny guised and freedom.


we can see it coming and so can the leftists.

Yes, the Nazis believed in absolute Government control of Citizens' lives. All Socialists believe in that. There were only slight differences between the Nazi Party and Communist Party in Germany. Both were Authoritarian/Totalitarian.
They are at opposite ends of the political spectrum

The Nazis and Communists in Germany were very similar. The ideologies were basically the same. All Nazis considered themselves to be loyal Socialists. There was only a rivalry between the two, because they were battling for control of Germany. It wasn't about ideology. Just go back and read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. Its Platform was very similar to the Communist Party's Platform. Both hated Capitalism.
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.
 
There is no socialism here now. It doesn't exist. We have capitalism doing better the last 30 years than ever before.
What is welfare? Medicaid? HUD? The Department of Education?

Are we calling that something different? What would be called "socialism" anywhere else, exists here.

There are no "pure" capitalist countries, nor will there ever be. It's all shades of gray.
.

All those are programs that are failures and did not exist when America was founded.

Then we made the mistake of giving vote to everyone and they started voting for free shit in spades. Biggest mistake in history of man kind.
The National Weather Service is NOT a failure.
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

Perhaps you need to pay closer attention.
MSNBC's Deutsch equates Trump voters to Nazi guards: 'If you vote for Trump, you're the bad guy'

Chelsea Handler slams Trump's border policy, claims US will end up like Nazi Germany

This Donald Trump Rally Looks Like A Scene From Nazi Germany | HuffPost

Hanson: Why the left keeps saying Trump is a Nazi, fascist, tyrant or buffoon – The Mercury News
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong in regards to history. Not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But as far as the Nazis go, American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong. The Nazis above all, were loyal Socialists.

All folks need to do is go read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. (Nazi Party). They despised Capitalism as much as Communists do. Folks should also read up some on Hitler's own writings on Capitalism.
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

Perhaps you need to pay closer attention.
MSNBC's Deutsch equates Trump voters to Nazi guards: 'If you vote for Trump, you're the bad guy'

Chelsea Handler slams Trump's border policy, claims US will end up like Nazi Germany

This Donald Trump Rally Looks Like A Scene From Nazi Germany | HuffPost

Hanson: Why the left keeps saying Trump is a Nazi, fascist, tyrant or buffoon – The Mercury News
Are those threads started here?
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong in regards to history. Not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But as far as the Nazis go, American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong. The Nazis above all, were loyal Socialists.

All folks need to do is go read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. (Nazi Party). They despised Capitalism as much as Communists do. Folks should also read up some on Hitler's own writings on Capitalism.
Who cares? The cold war is over and no one is going to turn this country communist.
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

Perhaps you need to pay closer attention.
MSNBC's Deutsch equates Trump voters to Nazi guards: 'If you vote for Trump, you're the bad guy'

Chelsea Handler slams Trump's border policy, claims US will end up like Nazi Germany

This Donald Trump Rally Looks Like A Scene From Nazi Germany | HuffPost

Hanson: Why the left keeps saying Trump is a Nazi, fascist, tyrant or buffoon – The Mercury News
Are those threads started here?

Wow, where do you feel the talking points come from?
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong in regards to history. Not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But as far as the Nazis go, American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong. The Nazis above all, were loyal Socialists.

All folks need to do is go read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. (Nazi Party). They despised Capitalism as much as Communists do. Folks should also read up some on Hitler's own writings on Capitalism.
Who cares? The cold war is over and no one is going to turn this country communist.

Democrats have already achieved much of their Communist Agenda goals. But they aren't done yet. If you get some time, check out the documentary 'Agenda: Grinding America Down.' It's currently airing on Amazon Prime. The Communist Agenda in America has been ongoing for almost 100yrs. They have achieved much of their Agenda. But they sure aren't done yet.
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong in regards to history. Not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But as far as the Nazis go, American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong. The Nazis above all, were loyal Socialists.

All folks need to do is go read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. (Nazi Party). They despised Capitalism as much as Communists do. Folks should also read up some on Hitler's own writings on Capitalism.
Alternative facts
 
There is no socialism here now. It doesn't exist. We have capitalism doing better the last 30 years than ever before.
What is welfare? Medicaid? HUD? The Department of Education? Farm subsidies? Corporate subsidies? The EPA? The VA? The CDC? The National Weather Service?

Are we calling that something different? What would be called "socialism" anywhere else, exists right here.

There are no "pure" capitalist countries, nor will there ever be. It's all shades of gray.
.

National highways.... local public roads, the sidewalks on their sides and the public transit systems... public libraries.... the FAA.... the FCC.... the FTC.... fire departments .... the FDA.... public utility projects and subsidies.... the entire communication structure from the first telegraphs to the internet itself....

Fun fact: nobody in the US turned into a Thalidomide baby as they did in the rest of the world including the UK and Canada, because that damn socialist Frances Kelsey, working for the FDA, demanded the profitmonger drug company demonstrate its safety. Profitmonger drug company whined and whined about socialism, but the damn socialist Kelsey stood firm and US babies were spared.

Damn socialist :death:



All those are programs that are failures and did not exist when America was founded.

Yuh huh. :rolleyes:
 
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It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

Perhaps you need to pay closer attention.
MSNBC's Deutsch equates Trump voters to Nazi guards: 'If you vote for Trump, you're the bad guy'

Chelsea Handler slams Trump's border policy, claims US will end up like Nazi Germany

This Donald Trump Rally Looks Like A Scene From Nazi Germany | HuffPost

Hanson: Why the left keeps saying Trump is a Nazi, fascist, tyrant or buffoon – The Mercury News
Are those threads started here?

Wow, where do you feel the talking points come from?
The talking points started by the right wingers here?
 
It is pretty amazing to me that as a "leftie" (their label, not mine) I am accused of calling the Right wing "Nazi's" all the time, when in fact for the past few days EVERY thread involving who is a "Nazi" has been started by a right winger.
NONE OF US ARE NAZI'S damn it! Except the Nazi's who say they are.

They were horrible. The millions who died thanks to them deserve more respect than to have that name bandied about as a political bumper sticker. Just stop it.

American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong in regards to history. Not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But as far as the Nazis go, American Government Schooling has gotten a lot wrong. The Nazis above all, were loyal Socialists.

All folks need to do is go read up some on the National Socialist Workers' Party. (Nazi Party). They despised Capitalism as much as Communists do. Folks should also read up some on Hitler's own writings on Capitalism.
Alternative facts

Well it depends how you feel about Government Schooling, i guess. Personally, i feel they get a lot wrong in regards to history. And like i said, i'm not sure if it's honest error, or intentional. But Hitler always considered himself a loyal Socialist. Try reading up some on his own writings on Capitalism. It'll likely surprise you bigtime.
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Adolf was Reich not left.So the rest of the hypothesis is wrong.

Hitler considered himself a loyal Socialist. His Nazi Party was ideologically Socialist. All Nazis referred to themselves as Socialists.
Hitler thought himself almost a religious warrior for his concepts of what the best world would look like. Hitler told Chamberlain there would be peace. Hitler told Stalin he would not attack him. Hitler said he would giver Germany the world and a thousand year "Reich". Hitler believed there were sub-humans that deserved and needed to be eliminated. A lot of what Hitler "considered" and said have been shown all too painfully clearly to be in error.
What he used of "Socialism" was what he thought necessary for an educated European population to accept. Every popular sector of opinion and power provided him with the vocabulary required to assuage it. Anything that advanced the supreme goal was right and just.
Nazism is very akin to cults.
 
Yet so many Americans continue supporting it. What did Einstein say about the definition of insanity?


Great article

Leftism: From de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn (EvKL)

This book, published in 1974 by Arlington House Publishers, examines all facets of leftist political ideology, as you can tell from the title. Hitler a leftist? Yup.

EvKL examines leftism throughout Europe and North America; having travelled and taught extensively – and with an understanding of over a dozen languages – he seems eminently qualified to opine on the matter.

Given his background, he can make – with some authority – statements such as:

I think that the nascent United States of the late eighteenth century was already in the throes of warring political philosophies showing positive and negative aspects…. The American War of Independence had an undeniable influence on the French Revolution and the latter, in the course of the years, had a deplorable impact on America.

The French Revolution; Kerensky’s government in Russia; the Weimar Republic. The list is endless, and continued long past the time of the publishing of this book. All initially hailed as victories to the Progressivist cause; all resulting in “grievous disappointments”:

…dictatorships, civil wars, crowded jails, confiscated newspapers, gallows and firing squads, one-party tyrannies, sequestrations, nationalizations, “social engineering.”...

Read More:
Leftism - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Adolf was Reich not left.So the rest of the hypothesis is wrong.

Hitler considered himself a loyal Socialist. His Nazi Party was ideologically Socialist. All Nazis referred to themselves as Socialists.
Hitler thought himself almost a religious warrior for his concepts of what the best world would look like. Hitler told Chamberlain there would be peace. Hitler told Stalin he would not attack him. Hitler said he would giver Germany the world and a thousand year "Reich". Hitler believed there were sub-humans that deserved and needed to be eliminated. A lot of what Hitler "considered" and said have been shown all too painfully clearly to be in error.
What he used of "Socialism" was what he thought necessary for an educated European population to accept. Every popular sector of opinion and power provided him with the vocabulary required to assuage it. Anything that advanced the supreme goal was right and just.
Nazism is very akin to cults.

Look into the history of the National Socialist Workers' Party (Nazi Party). Their beliefs weren't much different than the Communists in Germany. Both were Authoritarian/Totalitarian. They both believed in absolute Government domination.
 

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