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He can't make a real argument so he resorts to incessant trolling. I had to ignore him temporarily last night.I never said it was. Unlike you, whilst you blame the NRA for this massacre, I never said the left was responsible for his behavior, I said their policies were. Thanks for the straw man, I'll burn him with the rest.
Very Christian of you. On the other hand, I do blame the leftists, not just their policies, and every leftist post in this thread shows why. They don't care about the 17 people their policies killed.
In fact their reaction to their record of 17 is to want to raise the bar and go for more the next time. Leftists will not rest until every mass murderer is safe to kill as many people as they can
For fucks sake. Get a life.
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So boring. I don't waste time with morons. I engage. When they persist in being morons, they get mocked.
This thread is the expression of a guilty conscience on the part of several morons. Nothing more.
Very Christian of you. On the other hand, I do blame the leftists, not just their policies, and every leftist post in this thread shows why. They don't care about the 17 people their policies killed.
In fact their reaction to their record of 17 is to want to raise the bar and go for more the next time. Leftists will not rest until every mass murderer is safe to kill as many people as they can
For fucks sake. Get a life.
Oops, looks like you got thumped on that one.
Yeah. That's how an imbecile would read it.
Now, now, LL. Let's calm down a bit.
Sure. Say something that isn't moronic.
You did not follow any plan from the left. Asshole.
Who came up with gun free zones, then?
Yeah, that's right, Joe Biden. A liberal. A leftist.
I present Exhibit A: The Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990, introduced by Biden and signed by George H.W. Bush.
Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 - Wikipedia
And Exhibit B: The overall success (or lack thereof) of the GFSZA. In the past 28 years, there have been 65 school shootings (not counting the one in Parkland, FL)
United States school shootings, 1990-present - Ballotpedia
My conclusion? These schools (including Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) followed a plan introduced by a leftist, and judging from the number of lives lost since the GFSZA was enacted, I would consider this "plan from the left" an abysmal failure.
Your honor, I rest my case.
Whoa! You really worked overtime on that one, tubby. Problem. The fact that the crazy guy had an AR-15 isn't the lefts plan. Dumb shit.
No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
Why do you keep repeating a statement that is not true? There was an armed guard on campus.
If armed guards don't deter these shooters, why do you believe armed civilians would?
I think I see what's going on here. While there were a couple of armed officers on campus, there weren't enough of them to be effective. You need more than "just a few" to deter a shooter. Strength in numbers. The school had 3200 kids. And it takes up about 45 acres of space. Think strategically. If there had been one armed guard per 100 students in the school, you'd have 32. And a much greater chance of stopping the active shooter.
There was nobody with the capability to return fire in the area where the shooting took place, because there were too few armed guards to handle the situation. Think about having to take the most effective route from one side of a 45 acre campus to the other if you're one of two armed guards on site.
Now, if you're done misconstruing what Kaz said, I'm going to go cosplay as "tubby" now.
Except you’re kazzing again since someone else besides the killer had a gun.We followed your plan, it was a gun free zone. 17 are dead. Damned straight you owe us an explanation for your failure
You did not follow any plan from the left. Asshole.
Who came up with gun free zones, then?
Yeah, that's right, Joe Biden. A liberal. A leftist.
I present Exhibit A: The Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990, introduced by Biden and signed by George H.W. Bush.
Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 - Wikipedia
And Exhibit B: The overall success (or lack thereof) of the GFSZA. In the past 28 years, there have been 65 school shootings (not counting the one in Parkland, FL)
United States school shootings, 1990-present - Ballotpedia
My conclusion? These schools (including Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) followed a plan introduced by a leftist, and judging from the number of lives lost since the GFSZA was enacted, I would consider this "plan from the left" an abysmal failure.
Your honor, I rest my case.
Whoa! You really worked overtime on that one, tubby. Problem. The fact that the crazy guy had an AR-15 isn't the lefts plan. Dumb shit.
No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
We banned guns from schools, just like you wanted. Even people with concealed carry permits trained to use their guns safely didn't have them. And your plan worked. No one had a gun and was able to defend themselves and shoot back. And 17 people died because of it.
You owe us an explanation. What is wrong with your plan? Why isn't it working?
Maybe you can ask your drug dealer why banning guns doesn't work the next time you buy a doobie ...
Gosh...this really hurts my feelings. I think I'm going to cry.
Even a midget mind like you understands that accidents are a leading cause of gun deaths, correct? Giving everyone a gun is not an answer. The number of accidental gun deaths will sky rocket. And if you tell me I'm wrong, you're full of shit.
Except you’re kazzing again since someone else besides the killer had a gun.We followed your plan, it was a gun free zone. 17 are dead. Damned straight you owe us an explanation for your failure
You did not follow any plan from the left. Asshole.
Who came up with gun free zones, then?
Yeah, that's right, Joe Biden. A liberal. A leftist.
I present Exhibit A: The Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990, introduced by Biden and signed by George H.W. Bush.
Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 - Wikipedia
And Exhibit B: The overall success (or lack thereof) of the GFSZA. In the past 28 years, there have been 65 school shootings (not counting the one in Parkland, FL)
United States school shootings, 1990-present - Ballotpedia
My conclusion? These schools (including Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) followed a plan introduced by a leftist, and judging from the number of lives lost since the GFSZA was enacted, I would consider this "plan from the left" an abysmal failure.
Your honor, I rest my case.
Whoa! You really worked overtime on that one, tubby. Problem. The fact that the crazy guy had an AR-15 isn't the lefts plan. Dumb shit.
No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
I already did. I showed him there was an armed security officer on campus. Despite knowing that, he still continued to claim there were no other guns on campus besides the one used by Cruz. The first time he said that could certainly be written off as a mistake or ignorance; but every time he repeated it after being shown there was another gun on campus is nothing but him kazzing.Highlighting someone’s lies is fauning? I’m good with that.And this is all Faun can do in the absence of an actual argument. ^^^^
Fauning.
See ya later!
You can't disprove a lie just by "highlighting it" you have to go into detail, explain what parts of the lie are a lie with facts and evidence.
Fauning.
See ya later!
But if you want to call highlighting lies told by you rightards, “fauning,” I’m good with that. I’ll call that fauning too.
Great, someone finally puts numbers behind the rhetoric. So let’s use your numbers... 1 hired gun per every 100 students...Whoa! You really worked overtime on that one, tubby. Problem. The fact that the crazy guy had an AR-15 isn't the lefts plan. Dumb shit.
No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
Why do you keep repeating a statement that is not true? There was an armed guard on campus.
If armed guards don't deter these shooters, why do you believe armed civilians would?
I think I see what's going on here. While there were a couple of armed officers on campus, there weren't enough of them to be effective. You need more than "just a few" to deter a shooter. Strength in numbers. The school had 3200 kids. And it takes up about 45 acres of space. Think strategically. If there had been one armed guard per 100 students in the school, you'd have 32. And a much greater chance of stopping the active shooter.
There was nobody with the capability to return fire in the area where the shooting took place, because there were too few armed guards to handle the situation. Think about having to take the most effective route from one side of a 45 acre campus to the other if you're one of two armed guards on site.
Now, if you're done misconstruing what Kaz said, I'm going to go cosplay as "tubby" now.
There are approximately 76 million students in the U.S. ...
Fast Facts
Protecting them all by your standards would require 760,000 armed policemen; who earn an average salary of about $61,000 annually. That would cost roughly $46 billion per year.
Sensible gun control, aimed at keeping military style guns out of the hands of mentally ill fuckers like Cruz, would cost far less.
At any rate, I doubt you really care about protecting our children. This simply falls in line with your hatred of the Second Amendment. We can keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people, but you want to practically take guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen. Because emotions.
Great, someone finally puts numbers behind the rhetoric. So let’s use your numbers... 1 hired gun per every 100 students...No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
Why do you keep repeating a statement that is not true? There was an armed guard on campus.
If armed guards don't deter these shooters, why do you believe armed civilians would?
I think I see what's going on here. While there were a couple of armed officers on campus, there weren't enough of them to be effective. You need more than "just a few" to deter a shooter. Strength in numbers. The school had 3200 kids. And it takes up about 45 acres of space. Think strategically. If there had been one armed guard per 100 students in the school, you'd have 32. And a much greater chance of stopping the active shooter.
There was nobody with the capability to return fire in the area where the shooting took place, because there were too few armed guards to handle the situation. Think about having to take the most effective route from one side of a 45 acre campus to the other if you're one of two armed guards on site.
Now, if you're done misconstruing what Kaz said, I'm going to go cosplay as "tubby" now.
There are approximately 76 million students in the U.S. ...
Fast Facts
Protecting them all by your standards would require 760,000 armed policemen; who earn an average salary of about $61,000 annually. That would cost roughly $46 billion per year.
Sensible gun control, aimed at keeping military style guns out of the hands of mentally ill fuckers like Cruz, would cost far less.
At any rate, I doubt you really care about protecting our children. This simply falls in line with your hatred of the Second Amendment. We can keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people, but you want to practically take guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen. Because emotions.
That is a lie and you are aware that it is a lie. Why are you lying?
We banned guns from schools, just like you wanted. Even people with concealed carry permits trained to use their guns safely didn't have them. And your plan worked. No one had a gun and was able to defend themselves and shoot back. And 17 people died because of it.
You owe us an explanation. What is wrong with your plan? Why isn't it working?
Maybe you can ask your drug dealer why banning guns doesn't work the next time you buy a doobie ...
Gosh...this really hurts my feelings. I think I'm going to cry.
Even a midget mind like you understands that accidents are a leading cause of gun deaths, correct? Giving everyone a gun is not an answer. The number of accidental gun deaths will sky rocket. And if you tell me I'm wrong, you're full of shit.
Moron... Cruz, an apparently mentally ill individual, was able to legally purchase an AR-15. We need laws to prevent that.Protecting them all by your standards would require 760,000 armed policemen; who earn an average salary of about $61,000 annually. That would cost roughly $46 billion per year.
Sensible gun control, aimed at keeping military style guns out of the hands of mentally ill fuckers like Cruz, would cost far less.
Uh, and? Aren't our children worth that and more? Here you are more concerned about the cost than the children. Typical of you. We as a society should spare no expense in protecting our children in school. In order for gun control to work, the gun control must work, which as evidenced in many a shooting across the country each day, shows that it is very ineffective at preventing gun crime.
Laws are nothing but words written on paper. If you can't make laws like gun control work 100% of the time, they are quite useless in saving life.
Great, someone finally puts numbers behind the rhetoric. So let’s use your numbers... 1 hired gun per every 100 students...Why do you keep repeating a statement that is not true? There was an armed guard on campus.
If armed guards don't deter these shooters, why do you believe armed civilians would?
I think I see what's going on here. While there were a couple of armed officers on campus, there weren't enough of them to be effective. You need more than "just a few" to deter a shooter. Strength in numbers. The school had 3200 kids. And it takes up about 45 acres of space. Think strategically. If there had been one armed guard per 100 students in the school, you'd have 32. And a much greater chance of stopping the active shooter.
There was nobody with the capability to return fire in the area where the shooting took place, because there were too few armed guards to handle the situation. Think about having to take the most effective route from one side of a 45 acre campus to the other if you're one of two armed guards on site.
Now, if you're done misconstruing what Kaz said, I'm going to go cosplay as "tubby" now.
There are approximately 76 million students in the U.S. ...
Fast Facts
Protecting them all by your standards would require 760,000 armed policemen; who earn an average salary of about $61,000 annually. That would cost roughly $46 billion per year.
Sensible gun control, aimed at keeping military style guns out of the hands of mentally ill fuckers like Cruz, would cost far less.
At any rate, I doubt you really care about protecting our children. This simply falls in line with your hatred of the Second Amendment. We can keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people, but you want to practically take guns out of the hands of every law abiding citizen. Because emotions.
That is a lie and you are aware that it is a lie. Why are you lying?
Actions speak louder than words, LL. Care to prove me wrong? Or would you rather call me "tubby" again?
This is the pass out guns at the door approach.We banned guns from schools, just like you wanted. Even people with concealed carry permits trained to use their guns safely didn't have them. And your plan worked. No one had a gun and was able to defend themselves and shoot back. And 17 people died because of it.
You owe us an explanation. What is wrong with your plan? Why isn't it working?
Maybe you can ask your drug dealer why banning guns doesn't work the next time you buy a doobie ...[/COLOR]
Our plan included a ban on assault rifles."Leftists owe the rest of us an explanation for the Florida shooting"
No, they don't.
We followed your plan, it was a gun free zone. 17 are dead. Damned straight you owe us an explanation for your failure
Schools can & do hire police resource officers.
No what, dumbass.
Nope. It wasn’t a security guard, it was a police officer and he was not off that day but on campus.Except you’re kazzing again since someone else besides the killer had a gun.You did not follow any plan from the left. Asshole.
Who came up with gun free zones, then?
Yeah, that's right, Joe Biden. A liberal. A leftist.
I present Exhibit A: The Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990, introduced by Biden and signed by George H.W. Bush.
Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 - Wikipedia
And Exhibit B: The overall success (or lack thereof) of the GFSZA. In the past 28 years, there have been 65 school shootings (not counting the one in Parkland, FL)
United States school shootings, 1990-present - Ballotpedia
My conclusion? These schools (including Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) followed a plan introduced by a leftist, and judging from the number of lives lost since the GFSZA was enacted, I would consider this "plan from the left" an abysmal failure.
Your honor, I rest my case.
Whoa! You really worked overtime on that one, tubby. Problem. The fact that the crazy guy had an AR-15 isn't the lefts plan. Dumb shit.
No, the left's plan is that when he had an AR-15, no one had a gun. The result were 17 deaths, your plan failed. What sort of introspection are you doing about that? What is your explanation for your failure. How are you proposing to fix it going forward?
No...actually, it has been reported that the one security guard with a gun......on a huge campus of over 2,000 people.....was off that day or off campus at the time of the shooting.......
Our plan included a ban on assault rifles."Leftists owe the rest of us an explanation for the Florida shooting"
No, they don't.
We followed your plan, it was a gun free zone. 17 are dead. Damned straight you owe us an explanation for your failure
Schools can & do hire police resource officers.
No what, dumbass.
all the shooter knows is that there is an armed police officer somewhere on campus.I already did. I showed him there was an armed security officer on campus. Despite knowing that, he still continued to claim there were no other guns on campus besides the one used by Cruz. The first time he said that could certainly be written off as a mistake or ignorance; but every time he repeated it after being shown there was another gun on campus is nothing but him kazzing.Highlighting someone’s lies is fauning? I’m good with that.And this is all Faun can do in the absence of an actual argument. ^^^^
Fauning.
See ya later!
You can't disprove a lie just by "highlighting it" you have to go into detail, explain what parts of the lie are a lie with facts and evidence.
Fauning.
See ya later!
But if you want to call highlighting lies told by you rightards, “fauning,” I’m good with that. I’ll call that fauning too.
Wrong.....and one armed security officer on a campus of over 2,000 people where the shooter knows the lay out and security procedures? This is why you are not taken seriously....
We banned guns from schools, just like you wanted. Even people with concealed carry permits trained to use their guns safely didn't have them. And your plan worked. No one had a gun and was able to defend themselves and shoot back. And 17 people died because of it.
You owe us an explanation. What is wrong with your plan? Why isn't it working?
Maybe you can ask your drug dealer why banning guns doesn't work the next time you buy a doobie ...
Conservatives and Trump made their very first piece of major legislation passed, giving the mentally ill the right to buy guns.
That's what you'd like to believe happened. Never mind the fact that reality refuses to conform to your fever dreams.
Great... post the law that says someone being treated for mental illness has to have their name put on a list which would prevent them from legally purchasing a weapon like the one Cruz bought...Moron... Cruz, an apparently mentally ill individual, was able to legally purchase an AR-15. We need laws to prevent that.Protecting them all by your standards would require 760,000 armed policemen; who earn an average salary of about $61,000 annually. That would cost roughly $46 billion per year.
Sensible gun control, aimed at keeping military style guns out of the hands of mentally ill fuckers like Cruz, would cost far less.
Uh, and? Aren't our children worth that and more? Here you are more concerned about the cost than the children. Typical of you. We as a society should spare no expense in protecting our children in school. In order for gun control to work, the gun control must work, which as evidenced in many a shooting across the country each day, shows that it is very ineffective at preventing gun crime.
Laws are nothing but words written on paper. If you can't make laws like gun control work 100% of the time, they are quite useless in saving life.
We already have those laws.....they could have been implemented on one of the 39 times that police visited the home and the two times the FBI was directly told he threatened to shoot up a school....
Let me repeat....
We Already Have Those Laws..........
"Leftists owe the rest of us an explanation for the Florida shooting"
No, they don't.
We followed your plan, it was a gun free zone. 17 are dead. Damned straight you owe us an explanation for your failure
You did not follow any plan from the left. Asshole.
So you're saying the school wasn't a gun-free zone? Or are you saying you don't think gun-free zones are a wonderful idea and didn't cheer when it became law?
