Leftists shut down speech, support violence against their opponents

[LoneLaugher]

The event had already been cancelled by that time. I've already stated in this thread that the protesters and the Trump supporters were both out of line AT THIS EVENT. But what led to this event is all on Trump.

Be real.

These people deliberately showed up with the intent of protesting and disrupting the event. They were the agitators. They are at fault.

They are partially at fault.

They absolutely intended to disrupt the event.

They have every right to do so.

The response to that is to have law enforcement remove them from the premises. It is not to assault them.

In this case, there were more protesters than Trump supporters. Who is to blame for hat fact?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Freedom of assembly is in the Constitution, right next to freedom of speech.

Not when it's in the thousands holding up middle fingers to Trump supporters and tearing "Trump" campaign signs out of supporters' hands. Then it is illegal.

Yes. And?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump is a giant douche.

However, the protestors who shut down his rally are total morons.

Trump has the right to speak. Shutting him down just shows the intolerance of those who think they're tolerant.

You lie. Trump canceled the rally. Not the People.

Stop being an retarded apologist.

Trump shut it down - rightly - for safety reasons. And the safety reasons were caused by the protestors.

No. They were caused by both protesters and Trump supporters. If you ask Trump who he was "protecting" last night....do you think he will say "Trump supporters" or "protesters"?

So what are the protesters doing there in the first place? They are there to start a fight. What are they protesting, that somebody is running for President? How American.

Finding trouble isn't too hard to do. Don't these losers have their own rallies to go to???

Freedom of assembly is in the Constitution, right next to freedom of speech.

Who said they didn't have the right to speak? But let's face it, this wasn't a debate between Sanders and Trump. Trump was the only one there. WTF are these clowns doing there? They are looking for trouble, that's all.

I have the right to free speech too. But if we are in a bar and I use my free speech to tell you how ugly I think your wife is, guess what the result of that will be?

 

[Mac1958]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it". That's where we are..

Paragons of tolerance, these leftists.

Nice to see Bernie Sanders' rally go off without a hitch.

No one in there trying to shut it down.
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[kaz]

And still nothing to back up the assertion. Duly noted.

A few problem

Why are there anti-Trump protestors at a pre-planned Trump rally?

What was their course of action, considering that some Trump supporters are easily agitated?

Is this really free speech? If so, why are they muscling on a venue previously assigned to another group for use of their free speech rights.

The more I think about it, the more I realize the Right are right this time around. Even if I don't agree with Trump or his supporters, they do have the right to speak their minds in our society. These anti-Trump protestors are clearly in the wrong.

Exactly, the protesters went to where the Trump supporters were. And it wasn't to split the cab fare home

How dare anyone who doesn't support Trump go to a place where Trump supporters are gathered! How dare they!

Strawman and I've addressed this several times. They have every right to demonstrate peacefully across the street. They have zero right to come over and make it a physical contact and they should have been arrested for doing that.

If we were talking right wingers and Hillary, you'd suddenly get that ...

Nope. They have a right to be in the arena. If they disrupt the goings on...they can expect to be escorted out peacefully. That's where it ends.

Next.

Not true and it misses the point of why they went there, to stir up physical confrontation. They had no other reason to go there

 

[LoneLaugher]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it".

That's where we are.
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Nope. Nobody has seen to it that Trump can't say what he wants. He's been talking ever since this happened.

 

[LoneLaugher]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it". That's where we are..

Paragons of tolerance, these leftists.

Nice to see Bernie Sanders' rally go off without a hitch.

No one in there trying to shut it down.
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Why is that?

 

[kaz]

A few problem

Why are there anti-Trump protestors at a pre-planned Trump rally?

What was their course of action, considering that some Trump supporters are easily agitated?

Is this really free speech? If so, why are they muscling on a venue previously assigned to another group for use of their free speech rights.

The more I think about it, the more I realize the Right are right this time around. Even if I don't agree with Trump or his supporters, they do have the right to speak their minds in our society. These anti-Trump protestors are clearly in the wrong.

Exactly, the protesters went to where the Trump supporters were. And it wasn't to split the cab fare home

How dare anyone who doesn't support Trump go to a place where Trump supporters are gathered! How dare they!

Strawman and I've addressed this several times. They have every right to demonstrate peacefully across the street. They have zero right to come over and make it a physical contact and they should have been arrested for doing that.

If we were talking right wingers and Hillary, you'd suddenly get that ...

Nope. They have a right to be in the arena. If they disrupt the goings on...they can expect to be escorted out peacefully. That's where it ends.

Next.

Which, of course, explains why one of the protestors had to be dragged away from the podium.

He was just trying to share a cab home with a Trump supporter who lives in his neighborhood and the Trump supporter got all uppity with him

 

[LoneLaugher]

A few problem

Why are there anti-Trump protestors at a pre-planned Trump rally?

What was their course of action, considering that some Trump supporters are easily agitated?

Is this really free speech? If so, why are they muscling on a venue previously assigned to another group for use of their free speech rights.

The more I think about it, the more I realize the Right are right this time around. Even if I don't agree with Trump or his supporters, they do have the right to speak their minds in our society. These anti-Trump protestors are clearly in the wrong.

Exactly, the protesters went to where the Trump supporters were. And it wasn't to split the cab fare home

How dare anyone who doesn't support Trump go to a place where Trump supporters are gathered! How dare they!

Strawman and I've addressed this several times. They have every right to demonstrate peacefully across the street. They have zero right to come over and make it a physical contact and they should have been arrested for doing that.

If we were talking right wingers and Hillary, you'd suddenly get that ...

Nope. They have a right to be in the arena. If they disrupt the goings on...they can expect to be escorted out peacefully. That's where it ends.

Next.

Not true and it misses the point of why they went there, to stir up physical confrontation. They had no other reason to go there

Some undoubtedly were....LAST NIGHT. Not all.....nor most. But before last night......every Trump protester was peaceful in every way.

Trump is holding a rally this morning in Ohio. Let's see if he takes control.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So leftists keep following Trump around protesting his speeches and trying to shut him down. They're initiating violence and trying to fight with Trump supporters. Chicago was only not way worse because the Trump supporters generally backed down.

And the "mainstream" liberals? You ignore it and continue to attack Trump showing what you are. Worse than Trump. Way worse. Violent and supportive of violence to shut down voices that dissent from yours.

Free speech my ass. There is nothing "liberal" about you, you're authoritarian leftists

So.... following Trump around isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?
So, protesting his speeches isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?

The violence part isn't great, but how many people are getting involved in the violence compared the number of left wing people in the US.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

I noticed lots of young people there, the whole thing looked Jerry Springer to me.

Maybe. I couldn't comment, I won't pay attention to it much.

When I was much younger i saw a bunch of left wing protesters, and they didn't impress me much, they were proud of their trouble making. But that isn't all left wingers, and it's not all protesters either.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it". That's where we are..

Paragons of tolerance, these leftists.

Nice to see Bernie Sanders' rally go off without a hitch.

No one in there trying to shut it down.
.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You lie. Trump canceled the rally. Not the People.

Stop being an retarded apologist.

Trump shut it down - rightly - for safety reasons. And the safety reasons were caused by the protestors.

No. They were caused by both protesters and Trump supporters. If you ask Trump who he was "protecting" last night....do you think he will say "Trump supporters" or "protesters"?

So what are the protesters doing there in the first place? They are there to start a fight. What are they protesting, that somebody is running for President? How American.

Finding trouble isn't too hard to do. Don't these losers have their own rallies to go to???

Freedom of assembly is in the Constitution, right next to freedom of speech.

Who said they didn't have the right to speak? But let's face it, this wasn't a debate between Sanders and Trump. Trump was the only one there. WTF are these clowns doing there? They are looking for trouble, that's all.

I have the right to free speech too. But if we are in a bar and I use my free speech to tell you how ugly I think your wife is, guess what the result of that will be?

What? I break your face and then go to jail and get sued for medical costs?

Who is at fault? I am.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"Earlier this week, our 2016 campaign season's sui generis "dog bites man" story hit the headlines again, after Rakeem Jones -- attending a Donald Trump rally in North Carolina as a dissenter -- was sucker punched by 78-year-old John McGraw. Here is the incident, captured in GIF form:

Asked to comment on the incident at the most recent debate, Trump did what he has always done -- tepidly sidestepped the issue before offering an endorsement of this sort of violence. His supporters, he said, "have anger that's unbelievable," and it's "a beautiful thing in many respects."
Will Donald Trump Actually Pay His Violent Supporters' Legal Fees?

Nuff said...

 

[kaz]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it".

That's where we are.
.

Nope. Nobody has seen to it that Trump can't say what he wants. He's been talking ever since this happened.

So just to be clear, if right wingers shut down Hillary speeches, you're endorsing that as long as she can still talk in the media, that's what you're saying, KKKlown?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

"I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to see to it that you can't say it". That's where we are..

Paragons of tolerance, these leftists.

Nice to see Bernie Sanders' rally go off without a hitch.

No one in there trying to shut it down.
.

"At Trump's rally earlier Friday in St. Louis, he was repeatedly interrupted by protesters. Police there charged nearly three dozen people with general peace disturbance and one person with assault."

GOP candidate Trump calls off rally due to security concerns

 

[kaz]

Exactly, the protesters went to where the Trump supporters were. And it wasn't to split the cab fare home

How dare anyone who doesn't support Trump go to a place where Trump supporters are gathered! How dare they!

Strawman and I've addressed this several times. They have every right to demonstrate peacefully across the street. They have zero right to come over and make it a physical contact and they should have been arrested for doing that.

If we were talking right wingers and Hillary, you'd suddenly get that ...

Nope. They have a right to be in the arena. If they disrupt the goings on...they can expect to be escorted out peacefully. That's where it ends.

Next.

Not true and it misses the point of why they went there, to stir up physical confrontation. They had no other reason to go there

Some undoubtedly were....LAST NIGHT. Not all.....nor most. But before last night......every Trump protester was peaceful in every way.

Trump is holding a rally this morning in Ohio. Let's see if he takes control.

There was zero reason for them to go into the physical space of the Trump supporters other than to be physically aggressive. The media was happily giving them blow jobs across the street all through the protest

 

[Tehon]

So leftists keep following Trump around protesting his speeches and trying to shut him down. They're initiating violence and trying to fight with Trump supporters. Chicago was only not way worse because the Trump supporters generally backed down.

And the "mainstream" liberals? You ignore it and continue to attack Trump showing what you are. Worse than Trump. Way worse. Violent and supportive of violence to shut down voices that dissent from yours.

Free speech my ass. There is nothing "liberal" about you, you're authoritarian leftists

So.... following Trump around isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?
So, protesting his speeches isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?

The violence part isn't great, but how many people are getting involved in the violence compared the number of left wing people in the US.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

I noticed lots of young people there, the whole thing looked Jerry Springer to me.

Maybe. I couldn't comment, I won't pay attention to it much.

When I was much younger i saw a bunch of left wing protesters, and they didn't impress me much, they were proud of their trouble making. But that isn't all left wingers, and it's not all protesters either.

It's a reality tv show now. Young people want to be a part of it. Trump has fostered it, but if these young people are involved on a more meaningful level it will back fire on him in the general election.

 

[tyroneweaver]

When did the entire Tea Party crowd go soft on peaceful protest?

This is so fun to witness.

The TEA party has no formal organization so how would you know that.

I know that when the Tea Partiers were disrupting town hall meetings not a RWnut on the planet objected to it,

including you.

sounds like a generalization

btw: I'm not a TEA party member/follower. But my boss was. I do believe in many of their philosophy.
Especially when I had a 480 acre farm and was being taxed at 10 bucks an acre

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Stop being an retarded apologist.

Trump shut it down - rightly - for safety reasons. And the safety reasons were caused by the protestors.

No. They were caused by both protesters and Trump supporters. If you ask Trump who he was "protecting" last night....do you think he will say "Trump supporters" or "protesters"?

So what are the protesters doing there in the first place? They are there to start a fight. What are they protesting, that somebody is running for President? How American.

Finding trouble isn't too hard to do. Don't these losers have their own rallies to go to???

Freedom of assembly is in the Constitution, right next to freedom of speech.

Who said they didn't have the right to speak? But let's face it, this wasn't a debate between Sanders and Trump. Trump was the only one there. WTF are these clowns doing there? They are looking for trouble, that's all.

I have the right to free speech too. But if we are in a bar and I use my free speech to tell you how ugly I think your wife is, guess what the result of that will be?

What? I break your face and then go to jail and get sued for medical costs?

Who is at fault? I am.

Legally, yes you are. But what was my point in going to that bar to insult your wife is the question? Because I came there to start trouble.

 

[kaz]

So leftists keep following Trump around protesting his speeches and trying to shut him down. They're initiating violence and trying to fight with Trump supporters. Chicago was only not way worse because the Trump supporters generally backed down.

And the "mainstream" liberals? You ignore it and continue to attack Trump showing what you are. Worse than Trump. Way worse. Violent and supportive of violence to shut down voices that dissent from yours.

Free speech my ass. There is nothing "liberal" about you, you're authoritarian leftists

So.... following Trump around isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?
So, protesting his speeches isn't freedom of speech? It's actually stopping freedom of speech?

The violence part isn't great, but how many people are getting involved in the violence compared the number of left wing people in the US.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

The reality is that some people just go to start a fight. They might be left wing, or right wing, but they're just there for the "shits and giggles" or the "kicks and punches".

They're not trying to exercise freedom of speech, they're trying to get ENTERTAINMENT and as Trump is dolloping entertainment on many people's plates, they're probably wondering how they can get some too.

I noticed lots of young people there, the whole thing looked Jerry Springer to me.

Maybe. I couldn't comment, I won't pay attention to it much.

When I was much younger i saw a bunch of left wing protesters, and they didn't impress me much, they were proud of their trouble making. But that isn't all left wingers, and it's not all protesters either.

No, left wingers aren't the only ones who protest in general, no one said they were. They were however the protesters in this case, and they initiated the physical contact. Note none of the confrontation was in the space of the protest, it was all in the space of the Trump rally