Legal group finds thousands of double voters in battleground states

Again for the uninformed...

Only six states this election are absentee voting states; IN, LA, MS SC TN and TX. (NOT Florida). Five states have been (before Trump and before COVID) mailing a ballot to every registered voter; HI, OR, WA, CO and UT. ONLY five additional states will be mailing ballots to all registered voters; CA, DC, NJ, VT and NV. (Many counties in CA, including LA, were already all mailed ballot counties). The rest will send a VBM to ANYONE that asks for it.

By this time in in 2016 NC had received 35,000 VBM requests. This year over 600,000. Oddly, people want to vote by mail during a deadly global pandemic.

The president is, there is no reason for anyone else to not do it. If he disagree's the way to have done that is to set the standard with his actions.

Trump isn't against mail in balloting, never was. You're a liar

Well great, then there is no problem. Why all the consternation?

You lied, I pointed out your lie. You are obviously the one with consternation since you're objecting to being called on your lie. So just to be clear, your standard is when you claim Trump is lying you have "consternation?" That's what you're saying? That's your standard? It really doesn't make sense that to call out a liar like you implies "consternation." You learn that in government schools?

Trump takes positions based upon the day. He discouraged mail in, then he encouraged it. Then he told people to try and vote illegally.

Trump never discouraged mail in, you're lying. So you're actually posting on this over and over and over and you don't even know what Trump actually said? Left wing media just leads you by the nose. Once again you're proving that they don't even explain the issue to you, they just tell you what to think. And think it you do!

Now, what is Trump actually against? You don't know, do you? The government schools didn't train you to research on your own or to use reason.

Trump is not against "mail in voting," he is against ... what?

Trump Requests Mail-in Ballot As He Condemns Voting by Mail

Typical leftist story. There is no quote from Trump anywhere to support the headline that he's against mail in voting.

Don't you want better for your children than the suck ass government education you got? You are so terrible at reading and have no analysis skills at all

It's what he said. Live with it.

This just goes to show what I keep saying. Almost all of Trump's lies are actually you lying about what he said.

Show the quote where Trump said he is against mail in voting. Obviously you can't. That's why you provided a leftist article where the title said that and they didn't quote him saying that.

Lying is what leftists do
 
Again for the uninformed...

Only six states this election are absentee voting states; IN, LA, MS SC TN and TX. (NOT Florida). Five states have been (before Trump and before COVID) mailing a ballot to every registered voter; HI, OR, WA, CO and UT. ONLY five additional states will be mailing ballots to all registered voters; CA, DC, NJ, VT and NV. (Many counties in CA, including LA, were already all mailed ballot counties). The rest will send a VBM to ANYONE that asks for it.

By this time in in 2016 NC had received 35,000 VBM requests. This year over 600,000. Oddly, people want to vote by mail during a deadly global pandemic.

The president is, there is no reason for anyone else to not do it. If he disagree's the way to have done that is to set the standard with his actions.

Trump isn't against mail in balloting, never was. You're a liar

Well great, then there is no problem. Why all the consternation?

You lied, I pointed out your lie. You are obviously the one with consternation since you're objecting to being called on your lie. So just to be clear, your standard is when you claim Trump is lying you have "consternation?" That's what you're saying? That's your standard? It really doesn't make sense that to call out a liar like you implies "consternation." You learn that in government schools?

Trump takes positions based upon the day. He discouraged mail in, then he encouraged it. Then he told people to try and vote illegally.

Trump never discouraged mail in, you're lying. So you're actually posting on this over and over and over and you don't even know what Trump actually said? Left wing media just leads you by the nose. Once again you're proving that they don't even explain the issue to you, they just tell you what to think. And think it you do!

Now, what is Trump actually against? You don't know, do you? The government schools didn't train you to research on your own or to use reason.

Trump is not against "mail in voting," he is against ... what?

Trump Requests Mail-in Ballot As He Condemns Voting by Mail

Typical leftist story. There is no quote from Trump anywhere to support the headline that he's against mail in voting.

Don't you want better for your children than the suck ass government education you got? You are so terrible at reading and have no analysis skills at all

It's what he said. Live with it.
show him this...(he pretends to ignore me)

 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
And if Trump can be troubled to apply for his absentee ballot, then anybody who needs to vote by mail can be troubled to do the same.

What did I reply to?

They want to stop Voting by mail
Call me crazy, but I assumed that Seawytch was saying that in reference to the specific argument about the universal mail in voting schemes that have been setup last minute, which is specifically what the Trump campaign, most of the Republican party, and most right wing voters are against.

Where is this being done and how would it not work when it works already in a few states?

It seems weird to me to assume that "voting by mail" was meant to be taken at its most literal possible meaning, including absentee voting, considering that I've seen precisely zero right wingers of any note making this argument. In fact, I don't even think I've seen any right wingers on this board saying we need to do away with absentee ballots.

No one is arguing that people need to shut up and go stand in line on voting day?
California, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, and Vermont have set up schemes to send mail in ballots automatically to all voters while a hand full of states are massively expanding absentee eligibility. The fact that we haven't prosecuted anybody for widespread voter fraud in these systems doesn't make them safe, IMO. We're estimating that 80 million votes (well over half of what was cast in the 2016 general) are going to be going through the mail, which means unsupervised chains of custody. If you leave your front door wide open and go to work, then get home to find that nobody's robbed you, it might just be evidence that you got lucky, and not proof that it's okay to leave your door open every day.

And yeah, I'm sure people have said to shut up and stand in line, I just think, as I said before, that taking such statements as literal and all-encompassing is pretty obviously strawman'ing the point.

Trump's vote is going through that system.
Your point?

It's all good. We should encourage people to vote in the manner that is as easiest for them and makes them the most comfortable.
Why should ease and comfort be the primary concerns when deciding the laws and leadership of our nation?

We shouldn't put restrictions on our Constitutional Rights.
So why not vote by phone or over the internet? That'd be even easier.

That would be great when we get it set up.
Wowzers. At least you're consistent with this goofy line of reasoning.

Out of curiosity, are you also opposed to restrictions on what firearms people are allowed to own, or people with felonies on record being allowed to own them, or a complete elimination of all need for ID or background checks when purchasing a firearm?

I believe if the government can own an arm the people should be allowed to also.......before you go there I understand the logistics with nuclear weapons.

The 2nd was wrote so people could use them against the government if necessary.
We may frequently disagree, but I've gotta admit that you have an interesting spread of opinions.

It's all the same opinion. To not violate people's rights. Our rights are more than the 2nd is it not?
Yeah, no, you definitely appear to be consistent with that principle. Interesting because I didn't take you for a libertarian, but I'm admittedly not the greatest at remembering which viewpoints are associated with which screennames.

It's not even that. I believe in things Libertarians do not BUT I also believe doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing and often times when left with two candidates that I believe are wrong I will go with the Libertarian candidate. I'm leaning to Jo this time.

Answer me this. People argue all the time that people should just give in when faced with a police officer that is going to violate your civil rights and take it up with the courts. That is of course a lie for many because we see those very people get upset when people win in the courts.......but that aside.

What if the argument was..........just let the government take your guns and fight it out in the court to get them back.

Would that be acceptable?
It's not acceptable in any situation for the police to violate someone's rights, but there's a pretty broad range of particular situations and likely consequences to consider.

If the police showed up to my door right now to confiscate weapons, I would personally allow them to do so and then fight it in court, but only because I don't see it as even remotely likely that they'd be doing so to disarm me as part of a larger plot to use drastic force against me. A legal misunderstanding, even one used to leverage against me a law that I find to be oppressive, is rarely a reason for a fight to the death, which is essentially what any fight against the state is. On the other hand, if I saw them coming down the street knocking on every door for that purpose, I might consider throwing away my scabbard, so to speak, and making them pry my firearm from my cold, dead fingers, but I would do so with the understanding that I'd be forfeiting my life for that principle.

At any rate, in a lot of the high profile police brutality situations of late, the idea that any particular one was initiated by a blatant violation of the victim's rights is debatable to say the least. I would definitely say that, in situations where no such obvious violation occurs, it's reasonable for police officers to violently defend themselves against people who try to fight their way out of getting arrested. From the citizen's perspective, it sucks, but if it seems like the officer is just wrong, but might be acting in good faith with the mistaken belief that you've committed a crime, yeah, I'd generally recommend you suck it up, endure the injustice, and try to redress the situation in court after the fact.

Where voting's concerned, I consider it to be a similarly complex question. I don't like the idea of disenfranchising anyone, but I see that as a justification for an in-person setup with ID required absolutely. Every illegitimate vote cancels out a legitimate opposing vote. The only significant difference between that and actively barring that disenfranchised voter from entering the polling place, is that said legitimate voter would at least be AWARE that he was getting fucked. I also don't see how not expanding voting to allow people to do it from home is tantamount to restricting that right. Nowhere does the constitution directly assert that there's a right to vote that cannot be infringed. We have to infer that right's existence based on the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments. Together, these amendments state that the right to vote can't be denied based on race (15th), sex (19th), unpaid taxes (24th), or age for people at least 18 years old (26th). The most recent of these amendments was passed in 1971, a full 27 years before Oregon became the first state to offer universal mail in voting. I see no reason to believe that anyone ever intended for there to be a right to vote that was unduly repressed if people were generally required to show up and exercise this right in person, given that this was already the case when these amendments were passed, and none of them even mention it. Moreover, I find it ludicrous to believe that anybody's right to vote is protected by neglecting the integrity of the process and subjecting it to potential mass fraud.
 
Again for the uninformed...

Only six states this election are absentee voting states; IN, LA, MS SC TN and TX. (NOT Florida). Five states have been (before Trump and before COVID) mailing a ballot to every registered voter; HI, OR, WA, CO and UT. ONLY five additional states will be mailing ballots to all registered voters; CA, DC, NJ, VT and NV. (Many counties in CA, including LA, were already all mailed ballot counties). The rest will send a VBM to ANYONE that asks for it.

By this time in in 2016 NC had received 35,000 VBM requests. This year over 600,000. Oddly, people want to vote by mail during a deadly global pandemic.

The president is, there is no reason for anyone else to not do it. If he disagree's the way to have done that is to set the standard with his actions.

Trump isn't against mail in balloting, never was. You're a liar

Well great, then there is no problem. Why all the consternation?

You lied, I pointed out your lie. You are obviously the one with consternation since you're objecting to being called on your lie. So just to be clear, your standard is when you claim Trump is lying you have "consternation?" That's what you're saying? That's your standard? It really doesn't make sense that to call out a liar like you implies "consternation." You learn that in government schools?

Trump takes positions based upon the day. He discouraged mail in, then he encouraged it. Then he told people to try and vote illegally.

Trump never discouraged mail in, you're lying. So you're actually posting on this over and over and over and you don't even know what Trump actually said? Left wing media just leads you by the nose. Once again you're proving that they don't even explain the issue to you, they just tell you what to think. And think it you do!

Now, what is Trump actually against? You don't know, do you? The government schools didn't train you to research on your own or to use reason.

Trump is not against "mail in voting," he is against ... what?

Trump Requests Mail-in Ballot As He Condemns Voting by Mail

Typical leftist story. There is no quote from Trump anywhere to support the headline that he's against mail in voting.

Don't you want better for your children than the suck ass government education you got? You are so terrible at reading and have no analysis skills at all

It's what he said. Live with it.

This just goes to show what I keep saying. Almost all of Trump's lies are actually you lying about what he said.

Show the quote where Trump said he is against mail in voting. Obviously you can't. That's why you provided a leftist article where the title said that and they didn't quote him saying that.

Lying is what leftists do

Even worse was him saying he would block post office funding so they couldn't handle mail in voting.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
And if Trump can be troubled to apply for his absentee ballot, then anybody who needs to vote by mail can be troubled to do the same.

What did I reply to?

They want to stop Voting by mail
Call me crazy, but I assumed that Seawytch was saying that in reference to the specific argument about the universal mail in voting schemes that have been setup last minute, which is specifically what the Trump campaign, most of the Republican party, and most right wing voters are against.

Where is this being done and how would it not work when it works already in a few states?

It seems weird to me to assume that "voting by mail" was meant to be taken at its most literal possible meaning, including absentee voting, considering that I've seen precisely zero right wingers of any note making this argument. In fact, I don't even think I've seen any right wingers on this board saying we need to do away with absentee ballots.

No one is arguing that people need to shut up and go stand in line on voting day?
California, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, and Vermont have set up schemes to send mail in ballots automatically to all voters while a hand full of states are massively expanding absentee eligibility. The fact that we haven't prosecuted anybody for widespread voter fraud in these systems doesn't make them safe, IMO. We're estimating that 80 million votes (well over half of what was cast in the 2016 general) are going to be going through the mail, which means unsupervised chains of custody. If you leave your front door wide open and go to work, then get home to find that nobody's robbed you, it might just be evidence that you got lucky, and not proof that it's okay to leave your door open every day.

And yeah, I'm sure people have said to shut up and stand in line, I just think, as I said before, that taking such statements as literal and all-encompassing is pretty obviously strawman'ing the point.

Trump's vote is going through that system.
Your point?

It's all good. We should encourage people to vote in the manner that is as easiest for them and makes them the most comfortable.
Why should ease and comfort be the primary concerns when deciding the laws and leadership of our nation?

We shouldn't put restrictions on our Constitutional Rights.
So why not vote by phone or over the internet? That'd be even easier.

That would be great when we get it set up.
Wowzers. At least you're consistent with this goofy line of reasoning.

Out of curiosity, are you also opposed to restrictions on what firearms people are allowed to own, or people with felonies on record being allowed to own them, or a complete elimination of all need for ID or background checks when purchasing a firearm?

I believe if the government can own an arm the people should be allowed to also.......before you go there I understand the logistics with nuclear weapons.

The 2nd was wrote so people could use them against the government if necessary.
We may frequently disagree, but I've gotta admit that you have an interesting spread of opinions.

It's all the same opinion. To not violate people's rights. Our rights are more than the 2nd is it not?
Yeah, no, you definitely appear to be consistent with that principle. Interesting because I didn't take you for a libertarian, but I'm admittedly not the greatest at remembering which viewpoints are associated with which screennames.

It's not even that. I believe in things Libertarians do not BUT I also believe doing nothing is better than doing the wrong thing and often times when left with two candidates that I believe are wrong I will go with the Libertarian candidate. I'm leaning to Jo this time.

Answer me this. People argue all the time that people should just give in when faced with a police officer that is going to violate your civil rights and take it up with the courts. That is of course a lie for many because we see those very people get upset when people win in the courts.......but that aside.

What if the argument was..........just let the government take your guns and fight it out in the court to get them back.

Would that be acceptable?
It's not acceptable in any situation for the police to violate someone's rights, but there's a pretty broad range of particular situations and likely consequences to consider.

If the police showed up to my door right now to confiscate weapons, I would personally allow them to do so and then fight it in court, but only because I don't see it as even remotely likely that they'd be doing so to disarm me as part of a larger plot to use drastic force against me. A legal misunderstanding, even one used to leverage against me a law that I find to be oppressive, is rarely a reason for a fight to the death, which is essentially what any fight against the state is. On the other hand, if I saw them coming down the street knocking on every door for that purpose, I might consider throwing away my scabbard, so to speak, and making them pry my firearm from my cold, dead fingers, but I would do so with the understanding that I'd be forfeiting my life for that principle.

At any rate, in a lot of the high profile police brutality situations of late, the idea that any particular one was initiated by a blatant violation of the victim's rights is debatable to say the least. I would definitely say that, in situations where no such obvious violation occurs, it's reasonable for police officers to violently defend themselves against people who try to fight their way out of getting arrested. From the citizen's perspective, it sucks, but if it seems like the officer is just wrong, but might be acting in good faith with the mistaken belief that you've committed a crime, yeah, I'd generally recommend you suck it up, endure the injustice, and try to redress the situation in court after the fact.

Where voting's concerned, I consider it to be a similarly complex question. I don't like the idea of disenfranchising anyone, but I see that as a justification for an in-person setup with ID required absolutely. Every illegitimate vote cancels out a legitimate opposing vote. The only significant difference between that and actively barring that disenfranchised voter from entering the polling place, is that said legitimate voter would at least be AWARE that he was getting fucked. I also don't see how not expanding voting to allow people to do it from home is tantamount to restricting that right. Nowhere does the constitution directly assert that there's a right to vote that cannot be infringed. We have to infer that right's existence based on the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments. Together, these amendments state that the right to vote can't be denied based on race (15th), sex (19th), unpaid taxes (24th), or age for people at least 18 years old (26th). The most recent of these amendments was passed in 1971, a full 27 years before Oregon became the first state to offer universal mail in voting. I see no reason to believe that anyone ever intended for there to be a right to vote that was unduly repressed if people were generally required to show up and exercise this right in person, given that this was already the case when these amendments were passed, and none of them even mention it. Moreover, I find it ludicrous to believe that anybody's right to vote is protected by neglecting the integrity of the process and subjecting it to potential mass fraud.

The means to how a person votes was entirely left up to the states.
 
Again for the uninformed...

Only six states this election are absentee voting states; IN, LA, MS SC TN and TX. (NOT Florida). Five states have been (before Trump and before COVID) mailing a ballot to every registered voter; HI, OR, WA, CO and UT. ONLY five additional states will be mailing ballots to all registered voters; CA, DC, NJ, VT and NV. (Many counties in CA, including LA, were already all mailed ballot counties). The rest will send a VBM to ANYONE that asks for it.

By this time in in 2016 NC had received 35,000 VBM requests. This year over 600,000. Oddly, people want to vote by mail during a deadly global pandemic.

The president is, there is no reason for anyone else to not do it. If he disagree's the way to have done that is to set the standard with his actions.

Trump isn't against mail in balloting, never was. You're a liar

Well great, then there is no problem. Why all the consternation?

You lied, I pointed out your lie. You are obviously the one with consternation since you're objecting to being called on your lie. So just to be clear, your standard is when you claim Trump is lying you have "consternation?" That's what you're saying? That's your standard? It really doesn't make sense that to call out a liar like you implies "consternation." You learn that in government schools?

Trump takes positions based upon the day. He discouraged mail in, then he encouraged it. Then he told people to try and vote illegally.

Trump never discouraged mail in, you're lying. So you're actually posting on this over and over and over and you don't even know what Trump actually said? Left wing media just leads you by the nose. Once again you're proving that they don't even explain the issue to you, they just tell you what to think. And think it you do!

Now, what is Trump actually against? You don't know, do you? The government schools didn't train you to research on your own or to use reason.

Trump is not against "mail in voting," he is against ... what?

Trump Requests Mail-in Ballot As He Condemns Voting by Mail

Typical leftist story. There is no quote from Trump anywhere to support the headline that he's against mail in voting.

Don't you want better for your children than the suck ass government education you got? You are so terrible at reading and have no analysis skills at all

It's what he said. Live with it.

This just goes to show what I keep saying. Almost all of Trump's lies are actually you lying about what he said.

Show the quote where Trump said he is against mail in voting. Obviously you can't. That's why you provided a leftist article where the title said that and they didn't quote him saying that.

Lying is what leftists do

Even worse was him saying he would block post office funding so they couldn't handle mail in voting.

Yeah, one vote, one piece of mail for a hundred or so million Americans. Clearly the post office can't handle one letter for less than a third of the population. They need billions to do that. Yeah ...
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
Unless you have a damn good reason you need to make the EFFORT to vote in person.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
Unless you have a samn good reason you need to make the EFFORT to vote in person.

It's not up to you what a good reason is.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
Unless you have a damn good reason you need to make the EFFORT to vote in person.
In a half dozen (mostly southern states) you do have to have a "damn good reason". You don't have to in the other 44...
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
Unless you have a damn good reason you need to make the EFFORT to vote in person.
In a half dozen (mostly southern states) you do have to have a "damn good reason". You don't have to in the other 44...

It's up to the states.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
And if Trump can be troubled to apply for his absentee ballot, then anybody who needs to vote by mail can be troubled to do the same.
or you can get up off your ass and vote in person
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.

It might have happened in North Carolina. The GOP was already busted for that.
Not Voting twice, duplicate voters on the rolls.

Does it matter why you got caught cheating or the fact that you got caught that matters?
Not at all...I am just clarifying what the lawsuit is about. They want to stop Voting by mail, but it is about getting the cleanest possible rolls before ballots go out.

While cleaning up rolls in itself isn't bad DEPENDING on how it's done, if Trump can vote by mail, everyone can.
And if Trump can be troubled to apply for his absentee ballot, then anybody who needs to vote by mail can be troubled to do the same.
or you can get up off your ass and vote in person
Why? Trump doesn't. Good enough for him, good enough for me.
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.
Taco Bell has a drive through. Walmart has curbside. I can vote by mail. Jealous? You live in one of those suck ass absentee states?
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.

Dangerous? No.

I voted by mail this year for the first time. The wife wanted to try it out. It was really nice to be able to sit down in front of the computer and research each race before casting my vote.

Would I do it again? Yeah.
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.
Taco Bell has a drive through. Walmart has curbside. I can vote by mail. Jealous? You live in one of those suck ass absentee states?
You shouldn't be allowed to vote by mail without a certified reason for not going there........and vetted as in the past.

Your side will ballot harvest your asses off......you don't fool anyone..........We have to show up here......just down the road and have to show I.D.........

You don't want to do that because you can't cheat that way.
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.

Dangerous? No.

I voted by mail this year for the first time. The wife wanted to try it out. It was really nice to be able to sit down in front of the computer and research each race before casting my vote.

Would I do it again? Yeah.
We did our first countywide all mailed ballot election quite a few years ago. We got a 20% increase in people wanting to permanently vote by mail. It was so popular that we went all Vote by Mail for all elections in 2017.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.




Very depressing. Very disturbing. :frown:

But not surprising.

Hope the GOP knows what to do when that happens.
 
Get off your lazy asses and go vote..........you would do it for Taco bell..........Walmart........but to VOTE.........too dangerous ......COVID.

What a bunch of lying wankers.
Taco Bell has a drive through. Walmart has curbside. I can vote by mail. Jealous? You live in one of those suck ass absentee states?
You shouldn't be allowed to vote by mail without a certified reason for not going there........and vetted as in the past.

Your side will ballot harvest your asses off......you don't fool anyone..........We have to show up here......just down the road and have to show I.D.........

You don't want to do that because you can't cheat that way.
Good thing you don't make the rules because folks WANT to Vote by Mail during a deadly pandemic. Sucks for the people in those minority six states though.
 
Its just starting..

A legal foundation has filed two court briefs that assert that double voting by the thousands happened in 2016-2018 in Georgia and North Carolina, as the nation prepares for its first large-scale, mail-in balloting to elect a president.

Anti-universal mail ballot activists say the two states are a tip-off for what will happen in the Nov. 3 election.


Liberal journalists demand that the Trump administration, which opposes mass-mailed ballots in most states, provide evidence of fraud. The counterargument is that it is difficult to cite such examples when only a handful of states before 2020 adopted remote voting.




Very depressing. Very disturbing. :frown:

But not surprising.

Hope the GOP knows what to do when that happens.
What happened? Can you explain it?
 

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