Lesbians whining because doc refused to be baby's doctor

[Kondor3]

You're honestly going to sit there with a straight face and tell me homosexuals can't be bigots? That's as insane as their claim a homosexual can't be a pedophile.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

SassyIrishLass
There is no class of people who are exempt from having bigots in their midst.

However, when bigots like you attempt to keep gays down, and the gays fight back, that is not bigotry on the part of the gays. You are nothing more than a modern day version of the racists in the past who got offended when blacks didn't "know their place".

Same bullshit. Different decade. And decades from now, you will be looked back on by history and by society as a whole as being in the same company as those white-sheeted intolerant assholes.

Faux analogy.

Being black was not an unclean, perverted, filthy, immoral, degenerate act and set of practices, and abomination and aberration in the eyes of Man, God and Nature.

Racists thought so.

Connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them should be prohibited by positive law and be subject to no evasion. (Virginia Supreme Court ruling, 1878)

White race-purity is the cornerstone of our civilization. Its mongrelization with non-white blood, particularly with Negro blood, would spell the downfall of our civilization. (Lothrop Stoddard, lawyer and eugenicist, 1924)

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix. (Leon Bazile, Virginia trial court judge, 1965)

Today, the heritage that these noble men passed to their posterity is under attack. White heritage is considered 'racist,' 'bigoted,' 'hateful,' among other negative connotations. ... Add the word 'Christian' with the word 'white' and the hatred for our culture and heritage gets almost maniacal. Christianity is mocked, laughed at and disregarded as something for weirdoes or extremists.(SaveYourHeritage.com)

Oh, hell, you and I do not disagree on whether or not so-called Christians tried to justify their racism utilizing their religion.

Trouble with that is, there is no record of Jesus of Nazareth nor the contributing authors of the Old Testament, teaching that one race was superior to another.

Consequently, those Jim Crow Christians had to jump through several metaphorical hoops - and not very skillfully, either - to over-reach for inadequate juicy rationalizations.

On the other hand, the contributing authors of the Old Testament condemned homosexuality as an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

And 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition and philosophy and legal standing, all serve to render Racism-and-Gay-Rights as two quite different struggles and sets of barriers.

It is understandable that the Gay Mafia would try to pitch the Gay-Rights struggle as identical to the Civil Rights struggle, in order to garner sympathy and supporters.

But the analogy breaks-down in several key areas, and turns out to be self-serving, and a falsehood perpetrated by the Gay Rights folk, in disingenuous pursuit of their goals.

You're not fooling anybody..

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

 

[Kondor3]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

Don't believe that it's just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

This isn't Roe, and most people think the fags next door are perfectly nice guys and therefore worthy of the same rights. This one is as dead as prayer in schools and interracial marriage. To you it might matter but it does to very few now and those it does matter to will be dead soon enough. It's over, find another minority to beat on.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

His clock turns back, but that of society does not. They won't tell him that of course, or he'd stop sending them checks.

 

[Kondor3]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

Don't believe that it's just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

This isn't Roe, and most people think the fags next door are perfectly nice guys and therefore worthy of the same rights. This one is as dead as prayer in schools and interracial marriage. To you it might matter but it does to very few now and those it does matter to will be dead soon enough. It's over, find another minority to beat on.

Like I said... please continue to think in those terms... you're doing the Opposition a huge favor... many thanks.

 

[Kondor3]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

Don't believe that it's just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

This isn't Roe, and most people think the fags next door are perfectly nice guys and therefore worthy of the same rights. This one is as dead as prayer in schools and interracial marriage. To you it might matter but it does to very few now and those it does matter to will be dead soon enough. It's over, find another minority to beat on.

Like I said... please continue to think in those terms... you're doing the Opposition a huge favor... many thanks.

The opposition in this case is made up of shadows, that you are watching dance on the wall of your cave. Come into the light, it's not as scary as you've been told.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

 

[Kondor3]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

All it will take is one powerful ruling by a more Conservative -leaning US Supreme Court in future, and it all shakes apart - and that from a Constitutional perspective.

You are up against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian teaching and history and tradition - and it seems highly probable that a way will be found, sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile... enjoy the pyrrhic victory while it lasts... because it seems destined to be assaulted time and again... until things are set right once more.

 

[g5000]

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

And if the gays refuse to submit to that kind of oppression, you bigots start whining you are the victims.

 

[g5000]

You're honestly going to sit there with a straight face and tell me homosexuals can't be bigots? That's as insane as their claim a homosexual can't be a pedophile.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

SassyIrishLass
There is no class of people who are exempt from having bigots in their midst.

However, when bigots like you attempt to keep gays down, and the gays fight back, that is not bigotry on the part of the gays. You are nothing more than a modern day version of the racists in the past who got offended when blacks didn't "know their place".

Same bullshit. Different decade. And decades from now, you will be looked back on by history and by society as a whole as being in the same company as those white-sheeted intolerant assholes.

Faux analogy.

Being black was not an unclean, perverted, filthy, immoral, degenerate act and set of practices, and abomination and aberration in the eyes of Man, God and Nature.

Racists thought so.

Connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them should be prohibited by positive law and be subject to no evasion. (Virginia Supreme Court ruling, 1878)

White race-purity is the cornerstone of our civilization. Its mongrelization with non-white blood, particularly with Negro blood, would spell the downfall of our civilization. (Lothrop Stoddard, lawyer and eugenicist, 1924)

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix. (Leon Bazile, Virginia trial court judge, 1965)

Today, the heritage that these noble men passed to their posterity is under attack. White heritage is considered 'racist,' 'bigoted,' 'hateful,' among other negative connotations. ... Add the word 'Christian' with the word 'white' and the hatred for our culture and heritage gets almost maniacal. Christianity is mocked, laughed at and disregarded as something for weirdoes or extremists.(SaveYourHeritage.com)

Oh, hell, you and I do not disagree on whether or not so-called Christians tried to justify their racism utilizing their religion.

Trouble with that is, there is no record of Jesus of Nazareth nor the contributing authors of the Old Testament, teaching that one race was superior to another.

Consequently, those Jim Crow Christians had to jump through several metaphorical hoops - and not very skillfully, either - to over-reach for inadequate juicy rationalizations.

On the other hand, the contributing authors of the Old Testament condemned homosexuality as an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

And 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition and philosophy and legal standing, all serve to render Racism-and-Gay-Rights as two quite different struggles and sets of barriers.

It is understandable that the Gay Mafia would try to pitch the Gay-Rights struggle as identical to the Civil Rights struggle, in order to garner sympathy and supporters.

But the analogy breaks-down in several key areas, and turns out to be self-serving, and a falsehood perpetrated by the Gay Rights folk, in disingenuous pursuit of their goals.

You're not fooling anybody..

You bigots use the Old Testament very selectively, just like the racists do.

Same bullshit, different decade.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The grownups are over the "gay" thing. Your turn.

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

All it will take is one powerful ruling by a more Conservative -leaning US Supreme Court in future, and it all shakes apart - and that from a Constitutional perspective.

You are up against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian teaching and history and tradition - and it seems highly probable that a way will be found, sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile... enjoy the pyrrhic victory while it lasts... because it seems destined to be assaulted time and again... until things are set right once more.

You believe that the Supreme Court is going to rule what would, by then, be millions of marriages are invalid? No, unlike you they live in the real world, and that is why they are about the rule against you. Once they do, that will stand for as long as the US does.

 

[Kondor3]

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

And if the gays refuse to submit to that kind of oppression, you bigots start whining you are the victims.

It all depends upon whether the Gay Mafia continues to uphold its recent victories or whether those end-up being reversed over time.

If they continue to uphold their victories, then, yeah, the fight will probably drag-on a lot longer - decades, even generations, quite possibly.

If their recent string of victories, over the Will of the People, are overturned, then, the Constitution will no longer be on their side, in such matters.

In which case, 'resistance' will be a bit more 'reserved' and a bit less 'vocal' than we see at present.

But that's all in the future - awaiting a Supreme Court with a more Conservative and Traditional perspective than the one presently sitting on the bench.

And, of course, it's all wild speculation, until such a Conservative composition comes closer to Reality.

 

[Kondor3]

Hell, Skippy, it's a good bet that this rumble has just started, and that it may last for years, or decades, provided the give-and-take of Liberal and Conservative power-fluctuations in this country.

If there is to be a next round, it will probably be on the Constitutional Law level, seeking to re-interpret or re-task various elements of the Constitution, for the purpose.

All it will take is one bold ruling by a more Conservative -leaning Supreme Court, and it all shakes apart at the speed of light.

Don't believe that that struggle has just begun?

Look at the Abortion issue, and Roe-v-Wade, and the great lessening of its impact on a State-by-State level, some 40+ years after the decision.

You're fighting 3,000 years of deeply entrenched Judeo-Christian tradition.

Feel free to continue believing that you've won, and that it's all over.

That'll make the opening gambit of the next round all that much easier to execute.

En garde.

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

All it will take is one powerful ruling by a more Conservative -leaning US Supreme Court in future, and it all shakes apart - and that from a Constitutional perspective.

You are up against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian teaching and history and tradition - and it seems highly probable that a way will be found, sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile... enjoy the pyrrhic victory while it lasts... because it seems destined to be assaulted time and again... until things are set right once more.

You believe that the Supreme Court is going to rule what would, by then, be millions of marriages are invalid? No, unlike you they live in the real world, and that is why they are about the rule against you. Once they do, that will stand for as long as the US does.

I understand your position.

I disagree.

But it's all future-think at this point.

But I will offer-up a clue about the realism of the alternative prospect we've been discussing.

Take it out of the framework of path-of-least-resistance and put it upon the path-of-righteousness (as perceived by such a future Court), and the practicalities you speak of end-up carrying a vastly lower weight than you are currently giving them credit for.

Also, consider that it is possible to 'grandfather-in' existing arrangements, while barring them in future.

Wouldn't be the first time that accommodations have been made for existing conditions, while putting barriers in the way, for future application, would it?

Actually, over time, there is an excellent chance that some-such thing will come to pass - especially as this rubs against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian ethics and tradition and legal standing.

Ya can't fight City Hall - at least not forever, and expect it to stand, and that may very well be what we are looking at, on some future date, with a different Supreme Court on the bench.

Of course, for now, that's all crystal-ball stuff, but don't kid yourself - it's not only possible, but, over time, it may even prove to be likely or probable.

In any event, we'll have the answer to that possibility over the next couple of decades, I think.

Hell, we might even begin to see movement on that front, after January 20, 2017, although I wouldn't hold my breath over such a prospect just yet.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So what does it look like if you should "win"? Gays and lesbians go back in the closet? You blather on but you don't pose a solution, just a lot of pure bullshit bravado rhetoric that is totally meaningless in the real world.

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

All it will take is one powerful ruling by a more Conservative -leaning US Supreme Court in future, and it all shakes apart - and that from a Constitutional perspective.

You are up against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian teaching and history and tradition - and it seems highly probable that a way will be found, sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile... enjoy the pyrrhic victory while it lasts... because it seems destined to be assaulted time and again... until things are set right once more.

You believe that the Supreme Court is going to rule what would, by then, be millions of marriages are invalid? No, unlike you they live in the real world, and that is why they are about the rule against you. Once they do, that will stand for as long as the US does.

I understand your position.

I disagree.

But it's all future-think at this point.

But I will offer-up a clue about the realism of the alternative prospect we've been discussing.

Take it out of the framework of path-of-least-resistance and put it upon the path-of-righteousness (as perceived by such a future Court), and the practicalities you speak of end-up carrying a vastly lower weight than you are currently giving them credit for.

Also, consider that it is possible to 'grandfather-in' existing arrangements, while barring them in future.

Wouldn't be the first time that accommodations have been made for existing conditions, while putting barriers in the way, for future application, would it?

You seem to be dreaming of a theocracy, that isn't going to happen here unless the US is no more, which will happen someday but not in the near future. America will not ban gay marriage again, it has plenty of other fish to fry that matter vastly more.

 

[Kondor3]

You're honestly going to sit there with a straight face and tell me homosexuals can't be bigots? That's as insane as their claim a homosexual can't be a pedophile.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

SassyIrishLass
There is no class of people who are exempt from having bigots in their midst.

However, when bigots like you attempt to keep gays down, and the gays fight back, that is not bigotry on the part of the gays. You are nothing more than a modern day version of the racists in the past who got offended when blacks didn't "know their place".

Same bullshit. Different decade. And decades from now, you will be looked back on by history and by society as a whole as being in the same company as those white-sheeted intolerant assholes.

Faux analogy.

Being black was not an unclean, perverted, filthy, immoral, degenerate act and set of practices, and abomination and aberration in the eyes of Man, God and Nature.

Racists thought so.

Connections and alliances so unnatural that God and nature seem to forbid them should be prohibited by positive law and be subject to no evasion. (Virginia Supreme Court ruling, 1878)

White race-purity is the cornerstone of our civilization. Its mongrelization with non-white blood, particularly with Negro blood, would spell the downfall of our civilization. (Lothrop Stoddard, lawyer and eugenicist, 1924)

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix. (Leon Bazile, Virginia trial court judge, 1965)

Today, the heritage that these noble men passed to their posterity is under attack. White heritage is considered 'racist,' 'bigoted,' 'hateful,' among other negative connotations. ... Add the word 'Christian' with the word 'white' and the hatred for our culture and heritage gets almost maniacal. Christianity is mocked, laughed at and disregarded as something for weirdoes or extremists.(SaveYourHeritage.com)

Oh, hell, you and I do not disagree on whether or not so-called Christians tried to justify their racism utilizing their religion.

Trouble with that is, there is no record of Jesus of Nazareth nor the contributing authors of the Old Testament, teaching that one race was superior to another.

Consequently, those Jim Crow Christians had to jump through several metaphorical hoops - and not very skillfully, either - to over-reach for inadequate juicy rationalizations.

On the other hand, the contributing authors of the Old Testament condemned homosexuality as an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

And 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition and philosophy and legal standing, all serve to render Racism-and-Gay-Rights as two quite different struggles and sets of barriers.

It is understandable that the Gay Mafia would try to pitch the Gay-Rights struggle as identical to the Civil Rights struggle, in order to garner sympathy and supporters.

But the analogy breaks-down in several key areas, and turns out to be self-serving, and a falsehood perpetrated by the Gay Rights folk, in disingenuous pursuit of their goals.

You're not fooling anybody..

You bigots use the Old Testament very selectively, just like the racists do.

Same bullshit, different decade.

My, my, my... I don't think you liked my reference to a 3,000 year-old wealth of Judeo-Christian history and tradition and legal standing, in standing up against the Gay Mafia.

Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to learn to live with that.

 

[Kondor3]

The solution?

Gays go back into the closet.

It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that, does it?

LOL. Yeah, not gonna happen until you create a Jesusland, which can't be done here since we banned the concept in the founding document.

All it will take is one powerful ruling by a more Conservative -leaning US Supreme Court in future, and it all shakes apart - and that from a Constitutional perspective.

You are up against 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian teaching and history and tradition - and it seems highly probable that a way will be found, sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile... enjoy the pyrrhic victory while it lasts... because it seems destined to be assaulted time and again... until things are set right once more.

You believe that the Supreme Court is going to rule what would, by then, be millions of marriages are invalid? No, unlike you they live in the real world, and that is why they are about the rule against you. Once they do, that will stand for as long as the US does.

I understand your position.

I disagree.

But it's all future-think at this point.

But I will offer-up a clue about the realism of the alternative prospect we've been discussing.

Take it out of the framework of path-of-least-resistance and put it upon the path-of-righteousness (as perceived by such a future Court), and the practicalities you speak of end-up carrying a vastly lower weight than you are currently giving them credit for.

Also, consider that it is possible to 'grandfather-in' existing arrangements, while barring them in future.

Wouldn't be the first time that accommodations have been made for existing conditions, while putting barriers in the way, for future application, would it?

You seem to be dreaming of a theocracy, that isn't going to happen here unless the US is no more, which will happen someday but not in the near future. America will not ban gay marriage again, it has plenty of other fish to fry that matter vastly more.

There are few things that matter more in the long run than commonly-accepted modes of decency and the avoidance of degeneracy and ultra-libertine modes of behavior.

An effeminate and enervated Republic is a doomed Republic.

This will straighten itself out, over time, and it will be done by Constitutional means.

I merely show you one Alternative Future that may very well materialize in the coming years and decades.

I understand the angst associated with contemplating such a future, but, that angst is also irrelevant, with respect to 3,000 years of Judeo-Christian tradition, and may very well be swept aside - with very few to mourn its passing - on the road to recovering the health and well-being of the Republic and ensuring its survival and its future prospects.

Never gonna happen here? OK... if you say so... feel free to continue to believe that, if it gives you any comfort.

 

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Same-Sex Couple Blames Discrimination After Pediatrician Allegedly Refuses to See Their Newborn - Yahoo

STOP FUCKING CRYING OVER SHIT!

The kid got seen by doctor at SAME DOCTOR OFFICE! Not a problem,no reason to cry and throw a fit...jesus christ!

Not one to condone discrimination, but the irony here is that there are two lesbians with a newborn child. In order to have that child they had to be inseminated via heterosexual process. Eh, irony...I guess.