Let’s Give Up on the Constitution

[Vastator]

Older piece but still relevant. Don't like the rules?
Change them.

That’s what the founding fathers did...

 

[anynameyouwish]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

so does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

 

[danielpalos]

The opinion piece was written in 2012. You mentioned it was an older piece. The writer of the piece was wrong. The constitution has a mechanism for amendments. The Constitution has proven very adaptable because it was written as a political document and not an economic one. Strict constructionism has always been a joke to me because the founding fathers could not agree as to what the document meant, but we are to read their minds today. The Constitution is a lIving document and that is why it still matters 200 plus years later.

There is nothing ambiguous about our Constitution and supreme law of the land.

The right wing only appeals to dictionary definitions for subjects that require encyclopaedic understanding.

 

[progressive hunter]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

do does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

do you have proof of this??

 

[Penelope]

"AS the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions."

snip....

"This is not to say that we should disobey all constitutional commands. Freedom of speech and religion, equal protection of the laws and protections against governmental deprivation of life, liberty or property are important, whether or not they are in the Constitution. We should continue to follow those requirements out of respect, not obligation."

snip....

"If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate. But before abandoning our heritage of self-government, we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance."

Opinion | Let’s Give Up on the Constitution

Older piece but still relevant. Don't like the rules?
Change them.

The consitution has ways "out" built in, The amendment process, either via the legislature/states or the States themselves via Article 5 Conventions.

I know how it works, I'm a strict Constitutionalist. The Left screams get rid of it every time they lose an election.

When its finally becoming true with equal rights for all, I know the GOP wants to go back in time and the Republicans.

 

[danielpalos]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

There is no express immigration or wall building clause.

 

[progressive hunter]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

do does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

what rights and protections are gays being denied??

 

[danielpalos]

The consitution has ways "out" built in, The amendment process, either via the legislature/states or the States themselves via Article 5 Conventions.

Communists don't care.

Neither do right wing christo-fascists.

I have heard "the constitution is a CHRISTIAN document" and "only CHRISTIANS are real Americans" thousands of times.


Problem with people like you, duke, is that you can only think in opposites. good or bad, right or wrong, with me or "agin" me.

You think anyone who isn't waving a nazi flag must be a "communist"

LOTS of people think certain social programs make life better for everybody and meanwhile we can still enjoy our freedoms.

I want YOU to be FREE to be christian or muslim or any religion you want!
and I want socialized roads and bridges that are taken care of regularly.

I want YOU to be FREE to smoke tobacco!
and YOU want ME to (SOCIALISM) PAY for all of the health problems you develop by smoking tobacco your whole life!

I want gays to be FREE to be OUT and to MARRY and to receive equal rights and benefits!
and YOU want gays DENIED the right to marry so they pay MORE IN TAXES which BENEFITS (socialism) YOU!

I want people FREE to smoke pot!
and you want to criminalize pot, wage war on pot smokers (costs $$$), destroy lives and seize property!

Turns out that conservatives are more SOCIALIST than liberals!.....we want everyones' money for affordable health care! while YOU want MY money for YOURSELF.

gays already have equal rights

mostly.
yup.

I am referencing the MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans who would DENY those rights.

like roy moore

deny what rights???

equal protection of the law for the Poor because they are not capitally Worth it.

 

[saveliberty]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

do does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

Neither one dumbass. There was no Constitutional infraction. You both were exercising free speech rights.

 

[anynameyouwish]

The consitution has ways "out" built in, The amendment process, either via the legislature/states or the States themselves via Article 5 Conventions.

I know how it works, I'm a strict Constitutionalist. The Left screams get rid of it every time they lose an election.

And I'll bet that YOUR definition of "strict constitutionalist" doesn't agree with mine.

I wonder if it agrees with mike pences'?


What's your take on the constitution, religion and christianity?

religion is no ones business but mine

yup

but that isn't what millions of conservative christian republicans believe

how so??

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

 

[saveliberty]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

There is no express immigration or wall building clause.

No shit, care to make another unrelated stupid comment or are you finally setting personal limits?

 

[progressive hunter]

I know how it works, I'm a strict Constitutionalist. The Left screams get rid of it every time they lose an election.

And I'll bet that YOUR definition of "strict constitutionalist" doesn't agree with mine.

I wonder if it agrees with mike pences'?


What's your take on the constitution, religion and christianity?

religion is no ones business but mine

yup

but that isn't what millions of conservative christian republicans believe

how so??

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

got any proof of this claim???

cause I've never heard it

 

[Marion Morrison]

I know how it works, I'm a strict Constitutionalist. The Left screams get rid of it every time they lose an election.

And I'll bet that YOUR definition of "strict constitutionalist" doesn't agree with mine.

I wonder if it agrees with mike pences'?


What's your take on the constitution, religion and christianity?

religion is no ones business but mine

yup

but that isn't what millions of conservative christian republicans believe

how so??

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

This country was founded on the Bible and Natural law. Fact.

Self-governance is the way to remain the freest.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

do does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

Neither one dumbass. There was no Constitutional infraction. You both were exercising free speech rights.

look, dumbass, YOU are the one who SPECIFICALLY STATED "Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it"

and I am merely trying to understand what you actually mean.

the baker who refused to bake
the people demanding he bake a cake


who do you arrest and jail?

pot smokers?
the dea?

who is NOT abiding by the constitution?

can you give even one example of this thing that seems so important to you?

 

[saveliberty]

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

You seem like a very nervous gay guy. Relax

 

[anynameyouwish]

And I'll bet that YOUR definition of "strict constitutionalist" doesn't agree with mine.

I wonder if it agrees with mike pences'?


What's your take on the constitution, religion and christianity?

religion is no ones business but mine

yup

but that isn't what millions of conservative christian republicans believe

how so??

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

got any proof of this claim???

cause I've never heard it

yawn
typical lazy conservative. always making other people do the work.

this is very easily googleable.


however, since i know that YOU won't do the work and if I don't do it you will merely deny its' veracity.....\

Anti-gay supporters rally for Roy Moore, worrying LGBT community ...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/.../ct-roy-moore-alabama-20171118-story.html
Nov 18, 2017 - A smiling Roy Moore stood shoulder to shoulder with his fiercest religious allies. Flanked by a huge sign for Moore's Senate campaign, one ...
Roy Moore in 2005: 'Homosexual conduct should be illegal ...

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/kfile-roy-moore-homosexuality.../index.html
Sep 22, 2017 - Roy Moore, a Republican US Senate candidate in Alabama, said in a 2005 interview that he believes "homosexual conduct" should be illegal.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

pat robertson think the constitution is a "christian document" meant ONLY for christians.

do does roy moore.

roy moore would criminalize homosexuals.

I would give homosexuals equal rights and protections.


Which of us should be deported or jailed?

Neither one dumbass. There was no Constitutional infraction. You both were exercising free speech rights.

look, dumbass, YOU are the one who SPECIFICALLY STATED "Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it"

and I am merely trying to understand what you actually mean.

the baker who refused to bake
the people demanding he bake a cake


who do you arrest and jail?

pot smokers?
the dea?

who is NOT abiding by the constitution?

can you give even one example of this thing that seems so important to you?

You should be glad Jefferson advocated for just castrating gays instead of hanging them.

 

[danielpalos]

Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it.

There is no express immigration or wall building clause.

No shit, care to make another unrelated stupid comment or are you finally setting personal limits?

nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

socialism on a national basis is what they always seem to prefer.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Mike Pence and Roy Moore believe that the US IS a "christian nation" and the bible SHOULD be used as the source of law.

Moore specifically stated he would CRIMINALIZE and JAIL homosexuals merely for being gay!


he almost won the Alabama senate last year.

MILLIONS of conservative christian republicans voted for him. They must have no problem with his desire to "do something about the homosexual problem"

You seem like a very nervous gay guy. Relax

If only you were capable of sticking to the point we might actually be able to have a discussion.

I am straight, white, male, 67, balding, 15 lbs overweight and an AAA (atheist/agnostic/apathetic)

LOTS of straight white males support gay rights for rational and logical reasons.

LOTS of straight white males consider evangelical biblical opinions expressing a desire to punish other people to be nut just anti-constitutional but down right dangerous.

 

[saveliberty]

look, dumbass, YOU are the one who SPECIFICALLY STATED "Enforce the Constitution, jail or deportation for those who can't follow it"

and I am merely trying to understand what you actually mean.

the baker who refused to bake
the people demanding he bake a cake


who do you arrest and jail?

pot smokers?
the dea?

who is NOT abiding by the constitution?

can you give even one example of this thing that seems so important to you?

Hey triggered dumbass, Your example was not a Constitutional violation in the prior situation. The same holds true for the baker case. The baker was upholding his religious beliefs in a well established religion. The cake buyers wanted a cake and were denied, no harm no foul. Pot smokers are violating federal ans in many cases state law, that has nothing to do with the Constitution, they are jailed under laws. The DEA is a government established agency. Again your examples are stupid. Stop acting stupid.