Let's make something clear.

[Oddball]

Stop being an idiot.

Might as well ask him to stop breathing.

 

[Oddball]

Liberals have good reason to be concerned about the colossal errors of judgement by their fellow Americans in supporting an overt, orange, autocrat.

There's nothing remotely "liberal" about you fascist peckerheads....No better evidence than this overbearingly snobbish comment.

 

[Lisa558]

The evidence proves otherwise. Evidence presented and considered in both the CO and ME cases.

Those weren’t real cases. That was where one side - the Dems who want to disenfranchise Reoublican voters looked at ONE side and made a “ruling.” There was no due process, and the SCOTUS will overturn.

Are you Dems so stupid that you don’t realize these draconian, undemocratic, Unconstitutional actions to rob Republicans of their right to vote will make people LESS likely to vote for your side?

 

[Oddball]

Those weren’t real cases. That was where one side - the Dems who want to disenfranchise Reoublican voters looked at ONE side and made a “ruling.” There was no due process, and the SCOTUS will overturn.

Are you Dems so stupid that you don’t realize these draconian, undemocratic, Unconstitutional actions to rob Republicans of their right to vote will make people LESS likely to vote for your side?

The ME "case" wasn't even a case...It was just determined by the bureaucratic fiat of the Sec. of State.

 

[Hollie]

Historical precedent also confirms that a criminal conviction is not required for an individual to be disqualified under Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. No one who has been formally disqualified under Section 3 was charged under the criminal “rebellion or insurrection” statute (18 U.S.C. § 2383) or its predecessors. This fact is consistent with Section 3’s text, legislative history, and precedent, all of which make clear that a criminal conviction for any offense is not required for disqualification. Section 3 is not a criminal penalty, but rather is a qualification for holding public office in the United States that can be and has been enforced through civil lawsuits in state courts, among other means.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/r...eports/past-14th-amendment-disqualifications/

Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction, and historically, one was not necessary. Reconstruction Era federal prosecutors brought civil actions in court to oust officials linked to the Confederacy, and Congress in some cases took action to refuse to seat Members. Congress last used Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1919 to refuse to seat a socialist Congressman accused of having given aid and comfort to Germany during the First World War, irrespective of the Amnesty Act. The Congressman, Victor Berger, was eventually seated at a subsequent Congress after the Supreme Court threw out his espionage conviction for judicial bias. Recently, various groups and organizations have challenged the eligibility of certain candidates running for Congress, arguing that the candidates’ alleged involvement in the events surrounding the January 6, 2021, breach of the Capitol render them ineligible for office. No challenges have to date resulted in the disqualification of any congressional candidate. A New Mexico state court, however, has removed Otero County Commissioner County Griffin from office and prohibited him from seeking or holding any future office based on his participation in, and preparation for, the January 6 interruption of the election certification.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10569

Absent evidence in contradiction of CREW's assertion I suspect Trumpleton's will ineffectually attack CREW and or the CRS. It is the Trumpian way. When facts and evidence fail them they rely on what amounts to character assassination. Which is why Trump attacks the media, anyone who opposes him, and most especially those like Jack Smith who are working to hold Don accountable for his illegal actions.

Furthermore, quite a bit has been made about the removal of a candidate's name from the ballot being anti-democratic. Yet the Constitution itself tells us that it is the conduct that gives rise to disqualification under the 14th Amendment that is anti-democratic. From the moment Trump began the anti-democratic act of conspiring to steal the election he violated his oath of office and forfeited his right to once again run to be the prez.

Ya' just have to point and laugh when cut and pasters get their internet law degrees.

 

[Lisa558]

True.

In fact, it would be madness to not be concerned about the disastrous consequences of a second Trump regime and its contempt for our democratic institutions, the rule of law, and the Constitution.

Indeed, it’s madness to want a second Trump regime to begin with.

Yeah….such a disaster. We could clamp the border shut, stop giving money to Islamic terrorists, see workers REAL wages rise again, have laws to stop the calls of genociding Jews on liberal campuses, crack down on crime, and stop all the liberal nonsense.

What is mad is to want a second term of Biden’s intentional weakening of America.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Those weren’t real cases. That was where one side - the Dems who want to disenfranchise Reoublican voters looked at ONE side and made a “ruling.” There was no due process, and the SCOTUS will overturn.

The mere fact it is going to SCTOUS means that there is due process.

Fuck, are you really this fucking stupid?

No need to answer that, everyone knows the answer

 

[berg80]

Mobs are notoriously unpredictable

You're leaving out an essential element of the insurrection. The multifaceted plan Team Trump designed to stop Biden's certification which included the introduction of fake electors. The 1/6 riot was a last resort.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Then why has nobody been charged with it? Because there was no insirrection.

I think you’re guilty of raping that nice older lady next door to you. I realize you haven’t been convicted for it, or charged with it, and that it didn’t even happen, but you should be punished for it anyway.

There’s nothing to be ‘charged’ with.

As already correctly noted, being disqualified pursuant to Section 3 isn’t a criminal prosecution, the disqualified person isn’t subject to punishment by the state – the disqualified person goes home and lives his private life.

 

[Lisa558]

The ME "case" wasn't even a case...It was just determined by the bureaucratic fiat of the Sec. of State.

I know. I just didn’t want to complicate it for the leftist. They’re not too smart, you know. (If they were, they wouldn’t think Biden is preferable to Trump.)

 

[Lisa558]

There’s nothing to be ‘charged’ with.

As already correctly noted, being disqualified pursuant to Section 3 isn’t a criminal prosecution, the disqualified person isn’t subject to punishment by the state – the disqualified person goes home and lives his private life.

Being robbed of a chance to run for president when you are qualified is indeed a punishment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Those weren’t real cases. That was where one side - the Dems who want to disenfranchise Reoublican voters looked at ONE side and made a “ruling.” There was no due process, and the SCOTUS will overturn.

Are you Dems so stupid that you don’t realize these draconian, undemocratic, Unconstitutional actions to rob Republicans of their right to vote will make people LESS likely to vote for your side?

The only stupidity and ignorance is that of the right.

 

[berg80]

Yes, he is. The Supreme Court will not permit Democrats to arbitrarily remove their opponents from the ballots.

The one who isn’t qualified is the demented one on the take from Communists.

There was nothing arbitrary about the judicial proceeding in CO where evidence was presented by both sides of the dispute over the course of 5 days.

Before a lower court last month, lawyers made wide-ranging arguments during closing arguments, grappling over the ins and outs of specific language in the 14th Amendment and the extent to which Trump’s actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol amounted to insurrection.
GOP in uproar after Colorado court bars Trump from state ballot - Roll Call

 

[Hollie]

You're leaving out an essential element of the insurrection. The multifaceted plan Team Trump designed to stop Biden's certification which included the introduction of fake electors. The 1/6 riot was a last resort.

There was no insurrection. Inventing events that didn't happen is poor cricket, laddie.

 

[Marener]

Those weren’t real cases. That was where one side - the Dems who want to disenfranchise Reoublican voters looked at ONE side and made a “ruling.” There was no due process, and the SCOTUS will overturn.

Are you Dems so stupid that you don’t realize these draconian, undemocratic, Unconstitutional actions to rob Republicans of their right to vote will make people LESS likely to vote for your side?

Yes, they were real cases with real lawyers and real judges and real facts and real evidence and real decisions.

Pretending otherwise shows your ignorance.

 

[berg80]

Being robbed of a chance to run for president when you are qualified is indeed a punishment.

Trump wasn't qualified with respect to experience, temperament, or ability the first time he ran. His 4 year track record proves that.

 

[Oddball]

You're leaving out an essential element of the insurrection. The multifaceted plan Team Trump designed to stop Biden's certification which included the introduction of fake electors. The 1/6 riot was a last resort.

 

[Mac1958]

You're leaving out an essential element of the insurrection. The multifaceted plan Team Trump designed to stop Biden's certification which included the introduction of fake electors. The 1/6 riot was a last resort.

A lot of them don't know about that.

 

[Hollie]

Trump wasn't qualified with respect to experience, temperament, or ability the first time he ran. His 4 year track record proves that.

"..... because I say so".

 

[berg80]

There was no insurrection. Inventing events that didn't happen is poor cricket, laddie.

The Following's reliance on denial of demonstrable reality is well established. No need to remind us.