Let's unpack some of the right wing's delusion and dishonesty. Is universal healthcare socialism?

You'll often see conservatives argue that any social program is socialism and then in the next breath they'll say the Scandinavian countries are capitalist and not socialist when people point to how well they do over there. Well they have universal healthcare and very expansive social safety nets. Are those things socialism or not in your world view? You hypocrites can't have your cake and eat it too. Either the Scandinavian countries are socialist in your view or things like universal healthcare are not actually socialism. There are no Democrats arguing for the government to completely take over the private sector. They want universal healthcare and government funded universities like in the Scandinavian nations. At least get your shit straight and make a consistent argument.
YOU are the hypocrite
....you can't compare Scandinavian countries with the US for many reasons--end of story

What are those reasons?

I'm going to guess you are going to say it comes down to size and ....probably racial make up knowing you guys.
the US obesity rate is THREE times Sweden's!!!!!!!!!!!
and American black obesity rate is HIGH!
.....obesity is a major world health problem and causes other health problems
DUH
BOOOOOM baby
fact/etc

Ok, the United States has a lot of fat people so that means socialized healthcare doesn't work. That is what you call iron clad logic.
POPULATION--DUH!!!!!!!!!- this is BASIC grade school math and science!!!!!!!

You can't go into an ounce of detail?
population --it's in BIG letters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jesus christ, you didn't even graduate from grade school?????!!!!!!!!

I did the one word arguments but you're going to need to spit it out.
hahahhahahahahahahaha
.....you should not be on forums with adults--plain and simple ........you do not know the Scandinavian countries' populations are much DIFFERENT than the US????
....basic science rules you cannot equate groups that are much DIFFERENT
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.

No kidding, someone is saying we shouldn't have healthcare? Sounds like they're saying we shouldn't have "free" healthcare. Similarly, if you want "free" food, get in the soup line.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.

No kidding, someone is saying we shouldn't have healthcare? Sounds like they're saying we shouldn't have "free" healthcare. Similarly, if you want "free" food, get in the soup line.
Let me know when the cost of food drastically increases like healthcare.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
Like all the increased military spending?
yup.

but then again there really is no correlation between health care and the military.

Now if everyone was mandated to buy a rifle that would be a better comparison
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.

That's not the question, that's just demagoguery. The question is whether government should be in charge of health care.
I have not heard a better option.

It doesn't matter what you've heard. Insinuating that anyone who opposes your agenda "thinks that we shouldn't all have healthcare" is cheap BS.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
Like all the increased military spending?
yup.

but then again there really is no correlation between health care and the military.

Now if everyone was mandated to buy a rifle that would be a better comparison
We all need healthcare at some point.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.

That's not the question, that's just demagoguery. The question is whether government should be in charge of health care.
I have not heard a better option.

It doesn't matter what you've heard. Insinuating that anyone who opposes your agenda "thinks that we shouldn't all have healthcare" is cheap BS.
Well you are wrong on healthcare. Markets don’t work in healthcare, it’s that simple.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
Like all the increased military spending?
yup.

but then again there really is no correlation between health care and the military.

Now if everyone was mandated to buy a rifle that would be a better comparison
We all need healthcare at some point.

but we don't all need the same health care.

I don't need drug counseling but I am forced to pay for it.

I don't need pediatric or obstetric health care because I don't have kids and I'm not a woman but I have to pay for it.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
Like all the increased military spending?
Very much like that, yeah. If there's not broad consensus, it shouldn't be happening. This "elections have consequences" mindset is poison. Thanks Obama.
 
You'll often see conservatives argue that any social program is socialism and then in the next breath they'll say the Scandinavian countries are capitalist and not socialist when people point to how well they do over there. Well they have universal healthcare and very expansive social safety nets. Are those things socialism or not in your world view? You hypocrites can't have your cake and eat it too. Either the Scandinavian countries are socialist in your view or things like universal healthcare are not actually socialism. There are no Democrats arguing for the government to completely take over the private sector. They want universal healthcare and government funded universities like in the Scandinavian nations. At least get your shit straight and make a consistent argument.
In my constitution it's declared a human right.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.

That's not the question, that's just demagoguery. The question is whether government should be in charge of health care.
I have not heard a better option.

It doesn't matter what you've heard. Insinuating that anyone who opposes your agenda "thinks that we shouldn't all have healthcare" is cheap BS.
Well you are wrong on healthcare. Markets don’t work in healthcare, it’s that simple.
For a simpleton, perhaps.
 
Something wrong with anyone who thinks we all shouldn’t have healthcare. Our current system is a super expensive mess.
there's also something wrong with the government forcing people to pay for things they don't need want and will never use
Like all the increased military spending?
yup.

but then again there really is no correlation between health care and the military.

Now if everyone was mandated to buy a rifle that would be a better comparison
We all need healthcare at some point.

but we don't all need the same health care.

I don't need drug counseling but I am forced to pay for it.

I don't need pediatric or obstetric health care because I don't have kids and I'm not a woman but I have to pay for it.
And if we have a universal healthcare system it is cheaper for all.
 

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