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[Avatar4321]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

 

[blackhawk]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

My opinion is its part hypocrisy part blind party loyalty and the fact people have just come to accept politicians are liars.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Stop Parroting GOP Lies That Hillary Clinton Is Dishonest

By Rmuse on Sat, Apr 2nd, 2016 at 2:09 pm

"Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest and trustworthy" says former N.Y. Times Executive Editor and investigative journalist Abramson.


It is not unusual for political campaigns to make innuendoes indirectly suggesting that someone is immoral, improper, or has done something horribly wrong. It is unusual though, for a campaign’s supporters to blatantly accuse an opponent of the same party of being dishonest, a lying liar, and an evil person who cannot be trusted.


Defaming a candidate of the opposition party is one thing, if it is based on policy proposals or a character flaw borne out of past actions that predict dangerous tendencies. However, to demean a candidate’s character as dishonest and untrustworthy based on innuendo and dishonest proclamations, especially a candidate of the same party is despicable and a typically Republican ploy. It is why the perpetual claims from too many on the “Left” that Democratic presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is dishonest and untrustworthy are beyond reprehensible.

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We now know that the Repubs cut funding to US embassies and we know that both Obama and Hillary requested additional security for Benghazi and the Rs refused. We also know that she broke no laws with her email. Nor has there been proof of criminality in an other accusations from the right. Truth is, Dems could learn a lot from the constant lies we've gotten from the GOP/RW.

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And, for those who want to know -
What has she accomplished?

 

[Pete7469]

Trump isn't the sociopath that Hitlery is.

He is the world's richest professional clown and has no business in government. He was complicit in the corruption of the system and benefited from it.

Hitlery has taken that corruption to new levels. I don't support Trump as much as oppose Hitlery.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

I don't support either candidate, I think they are both terribly corrupt and disingenuous. But the Clintons are a known quantity and I suspect Hillary's administration would be much like Bill's, all the while they will continue to enrich themselves as they have done before. Bill Clinton left this country in better shape when he left office, unlike Bush.

Trump has absolutely no diplomacy skills for dealing with both Congress or foreign powers. He is erratic, unstable, thin-skinned, financially irresponsible and going on trial for $40M in fraud in a few months. He'll spend all of his time with petty fights and retributions instead of running the country, which is not like running one of the many casinos of his that went into bankruptcy.

He'll let his daughter Ivanka make decisions when he doesn't feel like it and I guess that will be O.K. as long as she's not "bleeding from her whatever" at the time.

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Why isn't Melania out there pitching for her husband like Michelle Obama did for Barack? Hmmmmm......

 

[Valerie]

to the op:

i suggest you search your Christian heart for the true moral positions on reproduction and life partnership PRIVATE choices when it comes to the RULE OF LAW under the dictates of our Constitutional GOVERNMENT.

THEN i suggest you search for the TRUTH of ms Hillary's record vs the propaganda smear determined to make a liar out of her.

i challenge you, without posting a quote of someone else MIScharacterizing her words as if a lie, to please go ahead and search the world wide web AND your heart for an instance where she actually TRULY lied...

the political narrative that she is a corrupt liar is in and of itself one big lie!



For decades she’s been portrayed as a Lady Macbeth involved in nefarious plots, branded as “a congenital liar” and accused of covering up her husband’s misconduct, from Arkansas to Monica Lewinsky. Some of this is sexist caricature. Some is stoked by the “Hillary is a liar” videos that flood Facebook feeds. Some of it she brings on herself by insisting on a perimeter or “zone of privacy” that she protects too fiercely. It’s a natural impulse, given the level of scrutiny she’s attracted, more than any male politician I can think of.

I would be “dead rich”, to adapt an infamous Clinton phrase, if I could bill for all the hours I’ve spent covering just about every “scandal” that has enveloped the Clintons. As an editor I’ve launched investigations into her business dealings, her fundraising, her foundation and her marriage. As a reporter my stories stretch back to Whitewater. I’m not a favorite in Hillaryland. That makes what I want to say next surprising.


Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest and trustworthy.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

 

[Valerie]

If You're Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy, You're Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/01/hillary-gop-smears/

 

[Valerie]

Praise for Hillary Clinton – Correct The Record

PRAISE FROM:
REPUBLICANS
DEMOCRATS
FOREIGN LEADERS
FAMOUS PEOPLE
PRESS
EXPERTS
BUSINESS LEADERS

 

[Valerie]

3 George W. Bush Cabinet secretaries — and dozens of other Republicans — now back Clinton

Members of Congress

• Rep. Richard Hanna (N.Y.), a moderate Republican who is retiring this year, told Syracuse.com that he will support Clinton and that Trump is unfit to lead. He cited Trump's criticism of Khizr Khan. "I think [URL='http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/08/gop_rep_richard_hanna_says_hell_vote_for_hillary_clinton.html']Trump is a national embarrassment

• ," Hanna said. "Is he really the guy you want to have the nuclear codes?"

Bush administration officials

• Henry Paulson, treasury secretary
• Carlos Gutierrez, commerce secretary
• Louis Sullivan, health and human services secretary -- “Though my enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton is somewhat tempered, I certainly believe she is an infinitely better choice for president than Donald Trump.”
• Rosario Marin, U.S. treasurer -- "I will stand up for my community against the menace of a tyrannical presidency that does not value the countless contributions of immigrants."
• John Negroponte, director of national intelligence and deputy secretary of state under Bush, five-time ambassador and Reagan deputy national security adviser
• Richard Armitage, deputy secretary of state and adviser to Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush — Trump "doesn't appear to be a Republican, he doesn't appear to want to learn about issues. So I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton."
• Brent Scowcroft, chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and adviser to three previous Republican presidents — "The presidency requires the judgment and knowledge to make tough calls under pressure. ... [Clinton] has the wisdom and experience to lead our country at this critical time."
• James Clad, deputy assistant secretary of defense -- "There is no choice: In razor sharp contrast to her opponent, Secretary Clinton is ready, steady and prepared. With a proven preference for bipartisanship, she must win this election."
• Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer -- "I’m a Republican, but I believe that Hillary Clinton is the only qualified major party candidate in the race and she should become president.
• William Reilly, Environmental Protection Agency adminstrator
• Alan Steinberg, regional EPA administrator
• Robert Blackwill, former deputy national security adviser and ambassador to India
• Scott Evertz, former director of the Office of National AIDS Policy
• Lezlee Westine, former White House director of public liaison and deputy assistant to the president — “Our nation faces a unique set of challenges that require steady and experienced leadership. That is why today I am personally supporting Hillary Clinton."
• Shirin Tahir-Kheli, special assistant to the president and ambassador and senior adviser for women's empowerment under Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
• Ashley J. Tellis, special assistant to the president and senior director for strategic planning and Southwest Asia
• David A. Gross, State Department coordinator for international communications and information policy
• James Kunder, assistant administrator for Asia and the Near East at USAID
• Matthew Waxman, senior official in the State Department and Defense Department
• Kori Schake, National Security Council and State Department aide

Officials in previous GOP administrations

• Frank Lavin, former Reagan political director and ambassador to Singapore — "It might not be entirely clear that Hillary Clinton deserves to win the presidency, but it is thunderingly clear that Donald Trump deserves to lose. From this premise, I will do something that I have not done in 40 years of voting: I will vote for the Democratic nominee for president."
• Doug Elmets, former Reagan spokesman — "I could live with four years of Hillary Clinton before I could ever live with one day of Donald Trump as president." Elmets spoke at the Democratic National Convention, along with other Republicans now backing Clinton.
• Jim Cicconi, former Reagan and George H.W. Bush aide — "Hillary Clinton is experienced, qualified and will make a fine president. The alternative, I fear, would set our nation on a very dark path.”
• Fred T. Goldberg Jr., former assistant U.S. treasury secretary and IRS commissioner under George H.W. Bush
• Charles Fried, former U.S. solicitor general under Reagan and current Harvard Law professor — "Though long a registered Republican, this will be the third consecutive presidential election in which my party forces the choice between party and, in John McCain’s words, putting America first. ... It is to [Mitt] Romney's credit that this year, like John Paulson and George Will, he is standing up against the brutal, substantively incoherent, and authoritarian tendencies of Donald Trump."
• Pete Teeley, press secretary to then-Vice President George H.W. Bush, former U.S. ambassador to Canada and U.S. representative to UNICEF
• Richard Howill, former deputy assistant secretary of state and ambassador to Ecuador under Reagan
• William Ruckelshaus, former Environmental Protection Agency head, deputy attorney general and acting FBI director
• Carla Hills, U.S. trade representative under George H.W. Bush

Foreign policy leaders

• Robert Kagan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, former Reagan State Department aide and adviser to the presidential campaigns of John McCain and Mitt Romney
• Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and adviser to GOP presidential candidates — "I'm literally losing sleep over Donald Trump. She would be vastly preferable to Trump."
• Peter Mansoor, retired Army colonel and former aide to former CIA director David Petraeus — "It will be the first Democratic presidential candidate I’ve voted for in my adult life."

Business leaders/donors

• Meg Whitman, former Hewlett-Packard chief executive and California gubernatorial nominee — "Donald Trump's demagoguery has undermined the fabric of our national character. America needs the kind of stable and aspirational leadership Secretary Clinton can provide."
• Marc Andreessen, venture capitalist — "[Silicon] Valley wouldn't be here, we wouldn't be doing any of this if we didn't have the amazing flow of immigrants that we've had in the last 80 years. And the idea of choking that off just makes me sick to my stomach."
• Harry Sloan, head of Global Eagle Acquisition — "He is unprepared and temperamentally unfit to be our president. Most of my Republican friends feel the same way. As a businessman, a father and a conservative, it is clear to me that Hillary Clinton is the right choice in this election."
• Dan Akerson, former chairman and chief executive of General Motors — "Serving as the leader of the free world requires effective leadership, sound judgment, a steady hand and, most importantly, the temperament to deal with crises large and small. Donald Trump lacks each of these characteristics."
• Chuck Robbins, chief executive of Cisco
• Hamid Moghadam, chairman and chief executive of Prologis — "Our country is about tolerance and inclusion and that's why, as a lifelong Republican supporter, I endorse Hillary Clinton for president in this election."
• William Oberndorf, donor of $3 million to GOP candidates since 2012 — "If it is Trump vs. Clinton, and there is no viable third-party candidate, I will be voting for Hillary Clinton."
• Mike Fernandez, $4 million to GOP candidates in recent years — "If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary. She’s the lesser of two evils."

Former Republican elected officials

• Chris Shays, former congressman from Connecticut — "I have friends who are up for office and they say, you know, if you don't support Donald Trump, you're hurting us because then we have to answer the question. And now I'm going one step further. So I am hurting them. But, you know, there's a time when you put your country first."
• Connie Morella, former congresswoman from Maryland
• David Durenberger, former senator from Minnesota
• William Milliken, who served as governor of Michigan from 1969 to 1983 — "Because I feel so strongly about our nation's future, I will be joining the growing list of former and present government officials in casting my vote for Hillary Clinton for president in 2016.”
• Larry Pressler, former three-term Republican senator from South Dakota who lost an independent campaign for his old seat in 2014 — "I can’t believe I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, but I am. If someone had told me 10 years ago I would do this, I wouldn’t have believed them."
• Arne Carlson, a former two-term Republican governor of Minnesota who supported President Obama
• Robert Smith, former judge on New York's highest court, the Court of Appeals — "This year, I’m going to vote for a Democrat for president  —  the first time I’ve done it in 36 years  —  and I think the decision is easy. Hillary Clinton is the only responsible choice, and I don’t understand why so few of my fellow conservatives see it that way."

Political operatives

• David Nierenberg, finance chairman to Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign
• Mark Salter, former top adviser to John McCain — "Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough."
• Sally Bradshaw, former top Jeb Bush adviser, told CNN that she had left the Republican Party to become an independent because of Trump's presence at the top of the ticket — and that if the race were close in her home state of Florida this fall, she would be voting for Clinton. "As much as I don't want another four years of [President Barack] Obama's policies, I can't look my children in the eye and tell them I voted for Donald Trump."
• Maria Comella, former spokeswoman for two of Trump's top backers, Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani — "Instead of speaking out against instances of bigotry, racism and inflammatory rhetoric whether it's been against women, immigrants or Muslims, we made a calculus that it was better to say nothing at all in the interest of politics and winning elections."
• Kurt Bardella, former top aide to Rep. Darrel Issa (R-Calif.) and ex-spokesman for Breitbart News -- "A big reason why I decided that Hillary Clinton is the candidate who I’m voting for -- the first Democrat I’m voting for in my life -- is because this is a time where what’s going on is much bigger than partisanship, bigger than Republican or Democrat, or single issues that traditionally these campaigns are about."
• Mike Treiser, former Mitt Romney aide — "In the face of bigotry, hatred, violence, and small-mindedness, this time, I’m with her.”
• Craig Snyder, former chief of staff to then-Republican Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.) and an ex-colleague of former top Trump adviser Roger Stone and current top Trump adviser Paul Manafort.

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[deltex1]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

Numbed by eight years of Obama. His are more delusion than lies.

 

[Avatar4321]

That's a GOP smear apparently. You have to be blind sheep or liars yourself to claim Hillary isn't a liar. Heck she was lying about her health LAST WEEK. And she had no reason to!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

I don't support either candidate, I think they are both terribly corrupt and disingenuous. But the Clintons are a known quantity and I suspect Hillary's administration would be much like Bill's, all the while they will continue to enrich themselves as they have done before. Bill Clinton left this country in better shape when he left office, unlike Bush.

Trump has absolutely no diplomacy skills for dealing with both Congress or foreign powers. He is erratic, unstable, thin-skinned, financially irresponsible and going on trial for $40M in fraud in a few months. He'll spend all of his time with petty fights and retributions instead of running the country, which is not like running one of the many casinos of his that went into bankruptcy.

He'll let his daughter Ivanka make decisions when he doesn't feel like it and I guess that will be O.K. as long as she's not "bleeding from her whatever" at the time.

First, Ivanka isn't going to be running the WH. Mike (Sharia Law) Pence is.

Second, if Hillary will be like either President Clinton or Obama, that would mean more record setting jobs creations, fighting for vets' rights, killing ISIS and shrinking their territory and money, health care insurance for ALL Americans instead of just those with lots of money, a balanced budget, continued growth like what Obama has done that makes the US the strongest economy on the planet.

Valerie is right - think hard about the rights Trump has said he would end.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

Because if the libs gain control of the supreme court, the brethren could be put in jail for things said from the pulpit.

 

[Valerie]

That's a GOP smear apparently. You have to be blind sheep or liars yourself to claim Hillary isn't a liar. Heck she was lying about her health LAST WEEK. And she had no reason to!

thanks for admitting you couldn't even conjure up ONE real quote that constitutes an actual LIE.

you claim she was lying about her health yet in fact she never lied about her health. fact.


thank you again, for the perfect example of a laughable so-called hillary LIE.

 

[Valerie]

15 Hours of Donald Trump’s Lies

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt
that both Clinton and Trump
lie like its second nature.

 

[BluesLegend]

Hillary has a 30 year track record of failure in government. Collin Powell said she screws up pretty much everything she touches. Look when she births one FUBAR after another, when its clear she is no Bill Clinton and even Obama was an improvement over her the old hag is going to come unglued.

 

[Wyld Kard]

to the op:

i suggest you search your Christian heart for the true moral positions on reproduction and life partnership PRIVATE choices when it comes to the RULE OF LAW under the dictates of our Constitutional GOVERNMENT.

THEN i suggest you search for the TRUTH of ms Hillary's record vs the propaganda smear determined to make a liar out of her.

i challenge you, without posting a quote of someone else MIScharacterizing her words as if a lie, to please go ahead and search the world wide web AND your heart for an instance where she actually TRULY lied...

the political narrative that she is a corrupt liar is in and of itself one big lie!



For decades she’s been portrayed as a Lady Macbeth involved in nefarious plots, branded as “a congenital liar” and accused of covering up her husband’s misconduct, from Arkansas to Monica Lewinsky. Some of this is sexist caricature. Some is stoked by the “Hillary is a liar” videos that flood Facebook feeds. Some of it she brings on herself by insisting on a perimeter or “zone of privacy” that she protects too fiercely. It’s a natural impulse, given the level of scrutiny she’s attracted, more than any male politician I can think of.

I would be “dead rich”, to adapt an infamous Clinton phrase, if I could bill for all the hours I’ve spent covering just about every “scandal” that has enveloped the Clintons. As an editor I’ve launched investigations into her business dealings, her fundraising, her foundation and her marriage. As a reporter my stories stretch back to Whitewater. I’m not a favorite in Hillaryland. That makes what I want to say next surprising.

Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest and trustworthy.

This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest | Jill Abramson

the political narrative that she is a corrupt liar is in and of itself one big lie!

RIIIIIGGGGHHHTTT. Just keep telling yourself that.

Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest and trustworthy.

There is nothing honest and trustworthy about someone whose corrupt as she is.

Hillary Clinton's dreadful lies

 

[Pilate]

You do realize that Correct the Record is a pro-Clinton PAC specifically designed for shilling for her on social media platforms, right?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Its been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that both Clinton and Trump lie like its second nature. How is it any of you supporting them are morally outraged at the lies of the other but don't care about your candidates lies?

It’s been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that Clinton is by far the better candidate and that the likes of Trump has no business being president.

Moreover, a presidential administration is much more than just its president – it’s the various administrators who implement the actual policy, it’s the judicial appointments to the Federal courts – the Supreme Court in particular, and it’s the advisors who guide the president with regard to developing policies both foreign and domestic.

A Trump ‘administration’ would be populated with Bush era retreads pursuing a failed, wrongheaded agenda, who would appoint conservative ideologues to the Supreme Court hostile to the civil rights and protected liberties of all Americans, and who would likely escalate American involvement in the ME.

It’s been proven beyond a shadow or a doubt that Trump as ‘president’ would be an unmitigated disaster.

Placing your question in the context of these facts renders your question ridiculous and devoid of merit