Little Sympathy for California Fire Victims

[Unkotare]

With that much water in the pool, and a $200.00 water pump, both of those homes could have been saved.

A pump could DRENCH the home with pool water, and the water at the base of the house could be diverted back into the pool to be used again. After the fire danger is over, filter the pool water and set the house runoff diverter valve back to the street disposal as normal.

That’s really, really stupid.

 

[miketx]

I'm sorry, but if I was ever going to build a ($x??) million dollar home in the hills of California, I THINK I would spend another ten or twenty thousand or so on preventative measures against brush fires.

These fires are an annual event, and not at all surprising. What IS surprising, is how little the homeowners have done to prevent their homes from burning to the ground.

I see these lots along the sculpted streets of SoCal, and all of the homes are burned to the ground. In the back yards of these homes are reflection pools, HUGE swimming pools full of water, that reain after the fires burn out. They build the expensive homes, and the beautiful reflection pools, but they NEVER think ahead, to plumb in a sprinkler system that can DRENCH the home with pool water at the moment the fire wall approaches and burns past the house.

It boggles my mind, to think that any architect would design a home with a 50,000 gallon pool in the yard, and NOT have some way to use that water to fight a fire. We are only talking about a $500.00 Honda gas powered water pump and some steel piping, after all.

Does this make ANY sense?

You really think a sprinkler is going to stop a miles-wide, raging wildfire, genius?

If it's a big honking space sprinkler.

 

[Wry Catcher]

California envy exposed once again. Gee, I wonder why anyone wants to live in Tornado Alley or Hurricane Hollow?

 

[bodecea]

Give me the heartlands everytime.

I'm just a country girl at heart...no better people

Fly over country.

Obviously foreign to you... lol

Not at all....just backward.

 

[bodecea]

California envy exposed once again. Gee, I wonder why anyone wants to live in Tornado Alley or Hurricane Hollow?

Wouldn't surprise me if some here help some California fires along by throwing cigs out car windows.

 

[miketx]

California envy exposed once again. Gee, I wonder why anyone wants to live in Tornado Alley or Hurricane Hollow?

You are spot-on as always! I am extremely envious of California, and have always wanted to:

Walk on shit covered streets and sidewalks
Pay 10 times more for my house
Be forced to accept gun laws that help criminals
Pay for illegals health care
Be at high risk of my house burning down
Pay more taxes
Pay more for gas
Be ran out by homeless

 

[OnePercenter]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

 

[miketx]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

 

[OnePercenter]

California envy exposed once again. Gee, I wonder why anyone wants to live in Tornado Alley or Hurricane Hollow?

You are spot-on as always! I am extremely envious of California, and have always wanted to:

Walk on shit covered streets and sidewalks
Pay 10 times more for my house
Be forced to accept gun laws that help criminals
Pay for illegals health care
Be at high risk of my house burning down
Pay more taxes
Pay more for gas
Be ran out by homeless

You can't afford to move?

 

[OnePercenter]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

You really think a sprinkler is going to stop a miles-wide, raging wildfire, genius?

No. You apparently cannot read simple English. I never even suggested using a "sprinkler." I said water nozzles. They don't use "sprinklers" on the ends of fire hoses ... GENIUS.

I also NEVER said that my idea would stop the fire. I know you want to accuse me of making that statement, otherwise your criticism of me is invalid.

I said a system that DRENCHES a house with water while the fire passes by will save THAT HOUSE.

Is that clear enough for you, GENIUS?

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

That’s really, really stupid.

Has it been tried? No? THAT is really, really stupid!

 

[OnePercenter]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

 

[miketx]

The homeowners can't do anything. The envirowackos won't let them. I had a friend that owned a cabin at Crestline. She got a notice from the Fire Marshal to clear away the dead brush around her cabin. She did. She was fined by the Environmental protection agency and ordered to restore the natural habitat. She produced the notice from the Fire Marshal. It did no good. The dead brush was restored by volunteers and my friend fined and the fine filed as a lien on the property.

Then came the Crestline fire a few years ago.the cabin burned to the ground. She collected the insurance money and abandoned the land.

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

 

[OnePercenter]

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

Ignoring facts yet again.

 

[miketx]

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

Ignoring facts yet again.

You have no facts, only what someone told you. The courts call that hearsay and dismiss it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I call BULLSHIT!

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

It is worse than that. For decades fire crews put out every little wisp of smoke. The small fires were put out immediately. That's what made these stands of dead brush so deadly. They were allowed to accumulate.

Healthy forests burn. That way they never get big enough to burn everything.

 

[OnePercenter]

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

Ignoring facts yet again.

You have no facts, only what someone told you. The courts call that hearsay and dismiss it.

The Old Fire was started by an arsonist (who was convicted and sentenced to death) and made worse by Santa Ana winds. If you have anything to post other than your ignorant opinion please do.

 

[OnePercenter]

You've made a bad call.

Believable until typsy added the EPA statement.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge? Most of the trees were killed by the bark beetle. The dead trees should have been cut down to stop the spread. The EPA refused to allow the "natural habitat" of the insect to be removed by Big Logging who would sell the wood and make a profit. Wood from trees infected by the bark beetle is only good for firewood and then only after heat treatment. That doesn't matter. The beetle must be protected.

That's why in 2003 the mountain and the village of Crestline burned.

Do you know why the Crestline fire got so huge?

Santa Ana winds.

Old Fire - Wikipedia

Forest growth out of control and unkempt.

It is worse than that. For decades fire crews put out every little wisp of smoke. The small fires were put out immediately. That's what made these stands of dead brush so deadly. They were allowed to accumulate.

Healthy forests burn. That way they never get big enough to burn everything.

And again, the Old Fire was caused by an arsonist and Santa Ana winds. Remove one and there wouldn't have been a fire.