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I wish people that call themselves Christians and don't believe the Bible would identify themselves so we know right away who the wolves in sheep's clothing are.I wish, just once, that the "Christians" involved with this anti-gay stuff would accurately identify themselves and instead of just using the generic term "Christian," which implies that all people of the Christian faith feel the same way as they do and support their activities. It is a false implication.
Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.They were willing to bake the cakes...they are not willing to put hateful messages on those cakes, nor do PA laws require them to do so.
You need to actually read PA laws to understand what they are about....
BTW...the same PA laws would prevent someone from going to a christian baker, order a cake and demand that the baker put "christianity sucks" on the cake. They would have to bake a cake and sell it....they are NOT required by law to put hateful messages on it.
The christian man filming his "gotcha" video either knows that and has conned you easily...or he's also not familiar with PA laws.
So is suing or whining?
Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.They were willing to bake the cakes...they are not willing to put hateful messages on those cakes, nor do PA laws require them to do so.
You need to actually read PA laws to understand what they are about....
BTW...the same PA laws would prevent someone from going to a christian baker, order a cake and demand that the baker put "christianity sucks" on the cake. They would have to bake a cake and sell it....they are NOT required by law to put hateful messages on it.
The christian man filming his "gotcha" video either knows that and has conned you easily...or he's also not familiar with PA laws.
The typical leftist double standard. If they refuse, it's because the message is "hateful". If Christians refuse, it's because they're "bigots".Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.They were willing to bake the cakes...they are not willing to put hateful messages on those cakes, nor do PA laws require them to do so.
You need to actually read PA laws to understand what they are about....
BTW...the same PA laws would prevent someone from going to a christian baker, order a cake and demand that the baker put "christianity sucks" on the cake. They would have to bake a cake and sell it....they are NOT required by law to put hateful messages on it.
The christian man filming his "gotcha" video either knows that and has conned you easily...or he's also not familiar with PA laws.
No one is required to put hateful particular message on the cake, not even religious bakers.
She cant be forced to make what she doesnt carry.So is the kosher deli owner who makes sandwiches for everyone. But because of her religion, not the kind certain customers want.They are making a baker of wedding cakes bake for all customers regardless of race, religion or sexual orientationYet a Christian baker can be forced to sell something he doesn't normally sell. But not a Jewish deli owner. Sounds like those PA laws could use some updating.I'm sorry to hear that you still don't understand PA laws. If a kosher deli doesn't normally sell BLTs on their menu....PA laws do not require them to sell you one if you want one. Just like you can't complain that a furniture store won't sell you a BLT.Then the kosher deli will simply be forced to sell BLT's. Nothing wrong with that.I will ask you again....does a business owner's religious beliefs trump health laws? safety laws?
You really need to read a PA law sometime.....your examples are amusing, but they are certainly showing clearly that you have no idea what PA laws are for.
The problem is that LGBT are behaviors, not inborn. So the legal premise was fucked up from day one. And hence all the problems. You cannot force people to condone or participate in sacred ceremonies that include blasphemy to their religion by the behaviors going on. There will never be a time when women laying with women or men laying with men is "marriage" to a Christian, or to a Muslim.What I mean is, and what we've been talking about for a few posts now, is about being able to deny service to people.
If, in your own country, you're refused from service in one shop, and it becomes legal, then you'll be refused by more shops.
69% of people are Christian. 2% Jewish, 1% Muslim. Imagine that you get refused service in 72% of shops. Imagine the area you live in you get refused service in 100% of shops.
The typical leftist double standard. If they refuse, it's because the message is "hateful". If Christians refuse, it's because they're "bigots".Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.They were willing to bake the cakes...they are not willing to put hateful messages on those cakes, nor do PA laws require them to do so.
You need to actually read PA laws to understand what they are about....
BTW...the same PA laws would prevent someone from going to a christian baker, order a cake and demand that the baker put "christianity sucks" on the cake. They would have to bake a cake and sell it....they are NOT required by law to put hateful messages on it.
The christian man filming his "gotcha" video either knows that and has conned you easily...or he's also not familiar with PA laws.
No one is required to put hateful particular message on the cake, not even religious bakers.
She doesn't provide those items because of her religion. You're arguing against yourself.She cant be forced to make what she doesnt carry.So is the kosher deli owner who makes sandwiches for everyone. But because of her religion, not the kind certain customers want.They are making a baker of wedding cakes bake for all customers regardless of race, religion or sexual orientationYet a Christian baker can be forced to sell something he doesn't normally sell. But not a Jewish deli owner. Sounds like those PA laws could use some updating.I'm sorry to hear that you still don't understand PA laws. If a kosher deli doesn't normally sell BLTs on their menu....PA laws do not require them to sell you one if you want one. Just like you can't complain that a furniture store won't sell you a BLT.Then the kosher deli will simply be forced to sell BLT's. Nothing wrong with that.
You really need to read a PA law sometime.....your examples are amusing, but they are certainly showing clearly that you have no idea what PA laws are for.
Yes, it's all about the message, not the sale of a cake. No one has refused the perverts a cake. The Christians refused to write a message that offended them. Weird how the left is so easily offended by so many things, but when a Christian is offended by refusing to violate their conscience, the left goes bonkers and sues them. The left demands tolerance, but shows none.The typical leftist double standard. If they refuse, it's because the message is "hateful". If Christians refuse, it's because they're "bigots".Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.They were willing to bake the cakes...they are not willing to put hateful messages on those cakes, nor do PA laws require them to do so.
You need to actually read PA laws to understand what they are about....
BTW...the same PA laws would prevent someone from going to a christian baker, order a cake and demand that the baker put "christianity sucks" on the cake. They would have to bake a cake and sell it....they are NOT required by law to put hateful messages on it.
The christian man filming his "gotcha" video either knows that and has conned you easily...or he's also not familiar with PA laws.
No one is required to put hateful particular message on the cake, not even religious bakers.
If a gsy couple came in and demanded a message stating "gay sex 4 ever" or "christians are sucky bigots" on a wedding cske they would be well within their rights to refuse and offer up wedding cake alternatives.
If a gsy couple came in and demanded a message stating "gay sex 4 ever" or "christians are sucky bigots" on a wedding cske they would be well within their rights to refuse and offer up wedding cake alternatives.
She doesn't provide those items because of her religion. You're arguing against yourself.She cant be forced to make what she doesnt carry.So is the kosher deli owner who makes sandwiches for everyone. But because of her religion, not the kind certain customers want.They are making a baker of wedding cakes bake for all customers regardless of race, religion or sexual orientationYet a Christian baker can be forced to sell something he doesn't normally sell. But not a Jewish deli owner. Sounds like those PA laws could use some updating.I'm sorry to hear that you still don't understand PA laws. If a kosher deli doesn't normally sell BLTs on their menu....PA laws do not require them to sell you one if you want one. Just like you can't complain that a furniture store won't sell you a BLT.
You really need to read a PA law sometime.....your examples are amusing, but they are certainly showing clearly that you have no idea what PA laws are for.
What message was that?Yes, it's all about the message, not the sale of a cake. No one has refused the perverts a cake. The Christians refused to write a message that offended them. Weird how the left is so easily offended by so many things, but when a Christian is offended by refusing to violate their conscience, the left goes bonkers and sues them. The left demands tolerance, but shows none.The typical leftist double standard. If they refuse, it's because the message is "hateful". If Christians refuse, it's because they're "bigots".Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?So when you don't want to put some message on a cake, it's because it's a "hateful" message. When a Christian doesn't want to put a message on a cake, it's because they're "bigots". Hypocrite.
No one is required to put hateful particular message on the cake, not even religious bakers.
If a gsy couple came in and demanded a message stating "gay sex 4 ever" or "christians are sucky bigots" on a wedding cske they would be well within their rights to refuse and offer up wedding cake alternatives.
Likewise a Christian bakery that does not normally do wedding cakes can not be forced to do one regardless of who the client is.
Queer marriage. The left wants submission. If anyone will not submit to the agenda that queer marriage is normal, they will be punished.What message was that?Yes, it's all about the message, not the sale of a cake. No one has refused the perverts a cake. The Christians refused to write a message that offended them. Weird how the left is so easily offended by so many things, but when a Christian is offended by refusing to violate their conscience, the left goes bonkers and sues them. The left demands tolerance, but shows none.The typical leftist double standard. If they refuse, it's because the message is "hateful". If Christians refuse, it's because they're "bigots".Messages are not covered in PA laws....for anyone. That's why a billboard company doesn't HAVE TO put hateful messages up......surely you know these basic things?
No one is required to put hateful particular message on the cake, not even religious bakers.
If a gsy couple came in and demanded a message stating "gay sex 4 ever" or "christians are sucky bigots" on a wedding cske they would be well within their rights to refuse and offer up wedding cake alternatives.
