Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?

[esalla]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

I have ignored the lockdown, do not wear a mask even when shopping, when they closed the parks I began riding my bicycle 50 miles thru towns on roads breathing the entire way without a mask saying hello to normal people and asking mask wearers if they are afraid of trees.

Life is great, if you do not believe the hysteria..............

 

[HappyJoy]

That's a lot of shit to not demonstrate that Biden was talking about the swiss cheese johnny come lately China travel ban that Trump imposed after 40 or so other countries had already done so.

Which countries imposed a travel ban before President Donald Trump. If you can't do that, please provide us with a reliable source and working link showing your allegation.

Really? You don't know this? It's not exactly a secret. Biden even brought this up.


ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA 1/31
ARMENIA 2/1
AUSTRALIA 2/1
AZERBAIJAN 2/1
BAHAMAS 1/30
BRUNEI 1/31
COOK ISLANDS 1/31
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO 1/30
EGYPT 2/1
EL SALVADOR 1/31
GUATEMALA 1/31
GUYANA 1/31
HONG KONG 1/27
IRAN 1/31
ITALY 1/31
JAMAICA 1/31
JAPAN 2/1
KIRIBATI 1/31
KYRGYZSTAN 2/1
LAOS 1/28
MACAU 1/28
MALDIVES 1/30
MARSHALL ISLANDS 1/24
MICRONESIA 1/31
MONGOLIA 2/1
MOROCCO 1/31
MOZAMBIQUE 1/28
RUSSIA 1/31
RWANDA 1/30
SINGAPORE 1/29
SOLOMON ISLANDS 1/31
SRI LANKA 1/28
ST. KITTS AND NEVIS 2/1
TAJIKISTAN 1/30
TANZANIA 1/29
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO 1/30
TURKMENISTAN 1/31
UZBEKISTAN 2/1

And bans starting on 2/2/2020 same day as the United States:

BANGLADESH 2/2
FIJI 2/2
GRENADA 2/2
INDIA 2/2
INDONESIA 2/2
ISRAEL 2/2
IRAQ 2/2
MAURITIUS 2/2
MYANMAR 2/2
NEW ZEALAND 2/2
VIETNAM 2/2
SAUDI ARABIA 2/2

Travel Restrictions on China due to COVID-19 | Think Global Health

www.thinkglobalhealth.org

Thank you for proving the ignorance of the far-left.

President Trump put our travel ban from China January 29th, 2020 and that is stated in the source I provided to you.

Nope, he announced it in January, it didn't go into effect until the 2nd of February.

Here is the announcement from the white house.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus | The White House

The United States has confirmed cases of individuals who have a severe acute respiratory illness caused by a novel (new) coronavirus ("2019-nCoV") ("the vi

www.whitehouse.gov

Sec. 6. Effective Date. This proclamation is effective at 5:00 p.m. eastern standard time on February 2, 2020.​

The countries I listed are the dates their bans went into effect.

You might want to pump the brakes when calling others ignorant.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong answer asshole. A subhuman doesn't care if people die or not…

Yes, I know. That's what makes it so easy for you to advocate and defend creating an economic disaster that will cost many, many, many more lives than this virus ever could have. You and your kind simply do not give a f••• about all the people that will suffer and die, just to pander to your laziness, cowardice, and stupidity.

That is what solidly qualifies you as a subhuman. For the sake of an evil political agenda, you are willing to condemn hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, to homelessness, poverty, starvation, and death.

Well the problem with your rant is that what you propose is the thing that will increase death and suffering. Son, I worked for 43 years and retired, so lazy has nothing to do with me. But this pandemic has not stopped killing/infecting Americans and the numbers rise every day. We don't know how many really have this because we haven't tested anybody but the people in hospitals and prisons. So then you want to force everybody to go out and work when there is a virus out there with no cure and and all you can do is hope it doesn't kill you when you get it. That's subhuman son. The refusal to care for human life. What you propose literally walks people into death traps. I say to you tell your president to get up off his fat lazy tweeting ass and get the right number of tests needed so we can know who is infected and then get to work with a plan whereby we can make sure everybdy can return to work safely instead of looking to blame everybody else. Fuck the economy. Their is no economy if most of the people are sick.

I'm not condemning anyone to any of those things you claim. And the majority of American citizens don't seem to agree with your need to make people work when they could get sick and die for doing so.

Idiot.

Now we understand. You are retired. You don't need to work, so you don't give a flying fuck about those who do. The same number of people are going to die regardless of the shut down. All it is doing is causing immense suffering and hardship. You're a self centered old coot who doesn't give a shit about anyone so long as the retirement income keeps coming in.

What an asshole.

 

[martybegan]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

A good place to start is when there are no new cases.

You couldn't figure that out all by yourself? Wow!

That will never happen

Not with our president.

Not with any president

Looks like South Korea, Singapore and other countries are flattening out that curve and reducing their numbers of active cases. Why can't Trump?

You mean why cant democrat governors in deep blue states?

The NYC area got hit early and it's densely populated. Not sure what the political party the governor is a member of makes a difference in that case.

California acted early though and on a per capita basis their numbers look great considering they were also hit early. They took action quick and it's been paying off ever since. Same in Washington, probably the first epicenter in the United States and now they aren't worth mentioning.

More than likely due to the reliance on Mass Transit. Subways and commuter rail are perfect vectors for pathogens.

For all their hippie spewing crap, Californians have never wanted to give up their cars and their commutes to the mountains.

In the Bay Area where they have kept COVID at bay they use mass transit quite often. BART runs through the entire bay area and San Francisco has MUNI.

LA on the other hand has less public transportation and their numbers while in control are higher than the Bay Area. Why would that be? For starters those 5 or 6 counties that imitated the first massive stay at home orders.

I don't doubt that mass transportation has an effect. A large one for that matter, but social distancing at least in San Francisco and it's surroundings has made an impact and your point (as much as it is one) just proves that.

BART isn't a pimple on the ass of the NYC subway system, or the other three commuter lines, either by reach or by passenger volume and concentration.

It carries a lot of people all day long and it's more than LA has and SF has a lower infection rate per capita.

it carried less and less because SF couldn't control the crime on it.

And again, until we know the asymptomatic and minor symptom case ratio, any calculations are based on either hospital admittance, limited testing, or extrapolation based on minimal data.

San Francisco is responsible for patrolling BART? That's interesting considering about 90% of it is outside the city.

Oh, now you care about testing and can't possibly come to any conclusions even though that's what you've been doing.

Whoever polices it, can't control the crime in it, and since the prime use is to get people in and out of SF, it falls on them, or the county, or whoever.

If you scan through my other posts, you can see I have talked about the lack of hard information over and over.

 

[esalla]

Looks like South Korea, Singapore and other countries are flattening out that curve and reducing their numbers of active cases. Why can't Trump?

Another liberal who wants our economy to tank.

Quite the contrary. I want out country to do what it needs to and get back on track. What the wingnuts are doing is just prolonging the the impacts of the virus.

What it needs to do is end this insane lockdown and get back to work. "Flattening the curve" by definition is prolonging the agony. It's better to let everyone get infected who is going to be infected and build up the herd immunity.

Can you think of a single state that has met Trump's guidelines for opening back up?

Can you name a single state that can continue to exist if it stays shut

 

[bripat9643]

Looks like South Korea, Singapore and other countries are flattening out that curve and reducing their numbers of active cases. Why can't Trump?

Another liberal who wants our economy to tank.

Quite the contrary. I want out country to do what it needs to and get back on track. What the wingnuts are doing is just prolonging the the impacts of the virus.

What it needs to do is end this insane lockdown and get back to work. "Flattening the curve" by definition is prolonging the agony. It's better to let everyone get infected who is going to be infected and build up the herd immunity.

Can you think of a single state that has met Trump's guidelines for opening back up?

What makes you believe I give a shit?

 

[Oddball]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

 

[bripat9643]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it only prolongs it.

 

[2aguy]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

1) Defeat Trump

2) Crush the U.S. economy to create a new "Great Depression," and by Great, they mean a Great Crisis they will not let go to waste.

3) Use the Chinese Virus to bankrupt as many hospitals as possible and put as many Doctors and Nurses out of work as possible...creating the health care crisis they need to push total government control over the healthcare system.

4) Use the destruction of the U.S. economy and the healthcare system to create a malleable U.S. population who will be more willing to allow the democrat party to enact socialist policies......these policies will make sure that the U.S. is no longer the worlds Super Power and will allow the other countries of the world to have more power and control over U.S. policy....

There......right off the top of my head I think I covered all the bases...

 

[Christ_on_a_croissant]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

 

[Oddball]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

We passed that point weeks ago, dullard.....The rest of this is just big fat fan dance, for the benefit of servile little meat puppets like you.

Now get back to doing as your overlords dictate, mere peasant.

 

[Desperado]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

They want the Lockdown in place until all parts of their Green Agenda are met. It has nothing to do with the virus just their submission to China

 

[Desperado]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

We heard that BS at the start and it was only supposeed to last 2 weeks! So what the fuck happened?

 

[Oddball]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

We heard that BS at the start and it was only supposeed to last 2 weeks! So what the fuck happened?

You didn't think those goalposts were going to move themselves, didja?

 

[bripat9643]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

The emergency rooms are empty, moron. They also now have plenty of PPE, so what's the excuse for continuing it?

 

[CowboyTed]

Seriously I wrote down a plan on Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?

Not one of you cared... Endless bickering and not even looked at a pretty sensible draft plan...

 

[bripat9643]

Seriously I wrote down a plan on Lockdown Fans: What Is Your Endgame Plan?

Not one of you cared... Endless bickering and not even looked at a pretty sensible draft plan...

There's a simple way to end the lockdown: end it.

 

[2aguy]

you're stupid enough to think that the virus will just die if we hide long enough.

You’re stupid enough to think that social distancing doesn’t slow the spread of a virus.

Slowing it (allegedly) won't make it go away, nor make anyone immune from it.

Now go wash your hands and get back under your bed to Cower in Place™, like a good little supplicant prole.

Slowing it keeps emergency rooms from being overwhelmed, and hospitals from running short on PPE and medical equipment.

Go lick some doorknobs, clown

The emergency rooms are empty, moron. They also now have plenty of PPE, so what's the excuse for continuing it?

The election in November....... crushing the U.S. economy to provide the democrats with the chance to enact their socialist agenda and take over of the country........ taking down the U.S. so other countries can control the world....

 

[dudmuck]

People who want the lockdowns to continue spend a lot of time shouting slogans and congratulating themselves on how they're "the only ones who care about saving lives", but I have yet to hear any of them tell us what their actual plan is for an endgame, or how they envision the future going forward if we were to cave in to their demands.

So I'd really like to know: if you could convince all the governors to continue the lockdowns, what do you think that looks like? How long do you want it to last, and/or what is your metric for ending it? And then what happens? What's your plan going forward from there? Do you have one?

The whitehouse posted the plan on their website.
Seems sensible to me, if Trump actually follows it.
Most certainly its not from Trump, but he cant stop it.

So now what I'm hearing you tell me is that you don't really have an argument against any of the people you're attacking and vilifying, but you're too shit-stupid to know that. You haven't bothered to listen to anyone about what they actually want; you just ran the fuck out and started shouting about what you "knew" they wanted, because that's what your masters told you to know.

Thank you. You're done here.

Do you actual read the posts you respond to?
Or do you just have generic canned replies?

 

[Unkotare]

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If there is any justice in the world, then subhuman pieces of shit such as yourself, who wish to deny others the right to work and earn our livings, will be the first to be thrown out of your homes and out on the streets, as the economy collapses to that point, and as food because scarce, your kind will be the first to starve to death. It is only fair that your kind be the first to suffer the fates that you are so happy to impose on others, and that your kind be the ones to suffer most greatly.

So, you don't have any strong feelings on the matter one way or another?