skookerasbil
Platinum Member
Good for New York
It’s strict gun control laws are working
Yeah well, London has stricter gun laws than New York.
Besides, I don't necessarily think New York's more modest murder rates has anything to do with gun control.
I happen to think a mix of stop, and frisk, tight policing, and that a lot of the "trash" have been weeded out of New York from gentrification, be it Black, White, or Puerto Rican.
The crime rate in New York went down because Rudy Guiliani actually focused on criminals...not law abiding citizens....but don't worry.....the democrat/socialist has decided that he wants more crime...so he is dropping all of the successful anti crime policies....
Don’t Take the Wrong Lessons from NYC’s Murder Drop
New York City’s formerly high-crime neighborhoods have experienced a stunning degree of gentrification over the last 15 years, thanks to the proactive-policing-induced conquest of crime. It is that gentrification which is now helping fuel the ongoing crime drop. Urban hipsters are flocking to areas that once were the purview of drug dealers and pimps, trailing in their wake legitimate commerce and street life, which further attracts law-abiding activity and residents in a virtuous cycle of increasing public safety.
The degree of demographic change is startling.
In Brooklyn’s Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood, for example, the number of white residents rose 1,235 percent from 2000 to 2015, while the black population decreased by 17 percent, reports City Lab.
In Bushwick, Brooklyn, the number of whites rose 610 percent over that same decade and a half; the black population was down 22 percent. Central Harlem’s white population rose 846 percent; the black share dropped 10 percent. In 2000, whites were about three-quarters of the black population in Brownsville-Ocean Hill; by 2015, there were twice as many whites as blacks.
In 2000, whites were one-third of the black population in Crown Heights North and Prospect Heights; now they exceed the black population by 20,000. The Brooklyn Navy Yards has now been declared the next cool place to be by the tech industry. Business owners are moving their residences as well as their enterprises to the area.
This demographic transformation has enormous implications for crime.
A black New Yorker is 50 times more likely to commit a shooting than a white New Yorker, according to perpetrator identifications provided to the police by witnesses to, and victims of, those shootings.
Those victims are overwhelmingly minority themselves.
When the racial balance of a neighborhood changes radically, given those crime disparities, its violent-crime rate will as well. (This racial crime disparity reflects the breakdown of the black family and the high percentage of black males — upwards of 80 percent in some neighborhoods — being raised by single mothers.)
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The high-crime areas of Baltimore and Chicago have not been gentrified. Baltimore is experiencing its highest per capita murder rate for the third year in a row. While Chicago’s homicide numbers are down somewhat this year, thanks to the aggressive use of shot-spotter technology, they remain at a level far higher than in the past decade.
I totally agree, gentrification + policing are the main things that promoted New York as a "Model safe city".
Chicago's gun laws are almost as strict as New York, but it's in much worse shape merely because of less gentrification + less policing
And Baltimore's are stricter than both with a tiny population compared to those cities...and their murder rate is off the charts....also, notice Houston...gun stores on every corner, people can carry guns legally, easily, and they are on the border with the drug country of Mexico....unlike Baltimore..
Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:
Chicago........2.7 million
L.A................3.9 million
N.Y................8.5 million
Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961
Murder rate 2016:
Chicago........765
L.A.......... .....293
N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318
Dude I love these threads... more than any other topic on the USMB.... really serves to highlight the inability of gun grabber progressives to connect the dots. Also serves to highlight how utterly dangerous these people are.... the thinking....Jesus.