London terrorists, Palestinian terrorists, what's the difference? Nothing

[ForeverYoung436]

The Jews were Europeans, from another continent. They were of course colonizers. But don't take it from me, they said it clearly themselves, even in the New York Times.

"An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”
The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers."

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

uly 25, 1926

2SHARES
London (Jul. 23)

(Jewish Telegraphic Agency)


"Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committee"

“Due to the success of our colonization work in Palestine proper, it is possible that eventually our colonization work will be extended beyond the frontiers of Transjordania. It is true that the Palestine government has not taken a clear stand in regard to its economic policy, but well founded demands have every prospect of being agreed to. A great deal has been achieved during the last months,” Dr. Weizmann said.

Successful Jewish Colonization Will Extend Beyond Palestine Frontier, Weizmann Tells Actions Committ


Europeans are not the indigenous people of Palestine. The indigenous people of Palestine are people that have always lived in Palestine. The Arabians were not settler colonists no more than the Crusaders were. They conquered to rule (and tax) the native people. How many people do you think the Arabian desert could support in those days?

Changing religion from Judaism to Christianity, as the indigenous Jews (and Samaritans and Pagans) of Palestine did after Christianity became the Roman State religion, , does not change their ancestry. They remain the indigenous people though they follow Christianity and Islam. The Zionists were Europeans.

And for the coup de grace, here is something from a site that cannot possibly be anti-Israel called eretzyisroel.org.

"Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin
In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found thatDuring the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

Let's not confuse the nutters with the facts.

Correct. The fact is: the Jewish people were invited / encouraged to immigrate to the area called Palestine to re establish the Jewish National Home.

So, the questions remain fully unanswered. Who invited Muhamnedans to conquer / colonize the area? Who invited the xtian Crusaders?

The fact is: the Jewish people were invited /

By people who had no authority to do so.

So, the questions remain fully unanswered. Who invited Muhamnedans to conquer / colonize the area? Who invited the xtian Crusaders?

Conquest was not illegal back then. It was in1948.

These timelines and cut-off dates are artificial and arbitrary.

 

[Shusha]

These timelines and cut-off dates are artificial and arbitrary.

I think you are being too generous. These timelines and cut offs are deliberate.

The Jewish people held legal custody of the territory outlined in the Mandate for Palestine, by treaty. The only people doing any "conquest" were those who fought against that legal custody.

Its all a legal fiction to deny rights to the Jewish people.

 

[montelatici]

These timelines and cut-off dates are artificial and arbitrary.

I think you are being too generous. These timelines and cut offs are deliberate.

The Jewish people held legal custody of the territory outlined in the Mandate for Palestine, by treaty. The only people doing any "conquest" were those who fought against that legal custody.

Its all a legal fiction to deny rights to the Jewish people.

Wrong, the legal fact is that the land of the former Ottoman and German colonies was to be held in trust for the inhabitants, pursuant to the Covenant of the LoN.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

 

[Shusha]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

 

[montelatici]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

 

[P F Tinmore]

These timelines and cut-off dates are artificial and arbitrary.

I think you are being too generous. These timelines and cut offs are deliberate.

The Jewish people held legal custody of the territory outlined in the Mandate for Palestine, by treaty. The only people doing any "conquest" were those who fought against that legal custody.

Its all a legal fiction to deny rights to the Jewish people.

The Jewish people held legal custody of the territory outlined in the Mandate for Palestine, by treaty.

Link?

 

[Roudy]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

 

[Roudy]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

 

[dani67]

Perhaps the reason all these islamic terrorist groups behave the same is because their leaders are all graduates of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is basically the Harvard of Islamic terrorism. Ben Laden, Zawahiri, Arafat, Hamas, etc. are all Muslim Brotherhood honoraries.

and salafism wahabi?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

 

[Roudy]

Perhaps the reason all these islamic terrorist groups behave the same is because their leaders are all graduates of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is basically the Harvard of Islamic terrorism. Ben Laden, Zawahiri, Arafat, Hamas, etc. are all Muslim Brotherhood honoraries.

and salafism wahabi?

Yes of course, they are believers in the Wahabbi version, however it isn't better than the shiite 12th Imam (Mahdi) Islamic lunatics in charge of Iran. In my opinion Islam is a barbaric evil cult, regardless of the version or sect. The reason Iranians are a great people, is because of their culture and history. Same with many nations invaded by Islam.

 

[Roudy]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

 

[MJB12741]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

How do you all like that? Palestine was a COUNTRY prior to 1850. Amazing what those Zionists can learn from Monte.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

Do you have something to the contrary?

 

[Roudy]

Always veering into off topic trolling about your bullshit version of the history of the land, no matter what the topic eh?

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

Do you have something to the contrary?

Do you have proof for your claim?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Indeed, we can't be looking at actual documents when there is so much Israeli bullshit to look at.

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

Do you have something to the contrary?

Do you have proof for your claim?

Sure.

http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=mjil

 

[Roudy]

Well if you looked at or cared for actual documents or history you wouldn't be spewing all the delusional bullshit that you regularly do.

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

Do you have something to the contrary?

Do you have proof for your claim?

Sure.

http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=mjil

No historical evidence, just some liberal nutjob's "interpretation", who happens to live in Michigan, the one state in the US with the most Muslims. What a surprise! Let me know when you have something legit.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Like what?

Like you keep telling everybody that there was a Palestinian nation, and that it sits right under Israel today. You are a lunatic.

Do you have something to the contrary?

Do you have proof for your claim?

Sure.

http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1045&context=mjil

No historical evidence, just some liberal nutjob's "interpretation", who happens to live in Michigan, the one state in the US with the most Muslims. What a surprise! Let me know when you have something legit.

I know, it is not from israelibullshit.il so it doesn't count.

Again, do you have something to the contrary?

 

[montelatici]

Yep, legal trust for the inhabitants. The Jewish people who had been there for 3000 years.

The inhabitants were Muslims and Christians, overwhelmingly. There were no Jewish people that had been there for 3,000. As the Mandatory reported in the first report of the Mandatory. Why do you constantly spout debunked Zionist propaganda?


"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. "

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations/Balfour Declaration text (30 July 1921)

How do you all like that? Palestine was a COUNTRY prior to 1850. Amazing what those Zionists can learn from Monte.

Take it up with the British Colonial Office.