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caféaulait;9225915 said:
of course. It is easy to say right now. Btw...did bergdahl have a choice in this matter? Can you show us where the taliban asked his opinion on the exchange? Link it for us.
yes, he had a choice in the matter. He should not have gone awol and the issue never would have come up. He should not have planned on going awol before ever arriving in afghanistan.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
They are top echelon Taliban leaders. You really need to google more. From right wing to left wing publications all confirm that Obama released leaders not 5 Mohammed six packs.
Oh and one guy you really might want to look up is a mass murderer. Fazi. Known for his massacres of Afghan civilians. Shiites his favorite victims.
Not right wing propaganda.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
Damn--you sound just like our President. Is that where you got it from ?
why does his opinion on a hypothetical situation matter?
also, the pertinent question to have asked him is would he rather be left in the hands of the enemy than have all avenues of rescue explored?
Actual the Military ask the {President numerous times if they had permission to rescue him and the President said NO.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
They are top echelon Taliban leaders. You really need to google more. From right wing to left wing publications all confirm that Obama released leaders not 5 Mohammed six packs.
Oh and one guy you really might want to look up is a mass murderer. Fazi. Known for his massacres of Afghan civilians. Shiites his favorite victims.
Not right wing propaganda.
I did google them...and they were the five in the negotiations for the last few years and they were REPORTED to be the five potentially to be traded. Congress knew it and it was public knowledge thru news reports.....so, why did no one say anything until now?
Dianne Feinstein recounted a classified briefing in November 2011 that she said moved her to join bipartisan letters to President Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that “registered concerns with the proposal and opposed the transfer of the [Guantanamo Bay] detainees to Qatar.
Clinton wrote back a classified response on Jan. 13, 2012, that “contained security assurances and a promise of consultation with the Congress,” Feinstein said.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
They are top echelon Taliban leaders. You really need to google more. From right wing to left wing publications all confirm that Obama released leaders not 5 Mohammed six packs.
Oh and one guy you really might want to look up is a mass murderer. Fazi. Known for his massacres of Afghan civilians. Shiites his favorite victims.
Not right wing propaganda.
I did google them...and they were the five in the negotiations for the last few years and they were REPORTED to be the five potentially to be traded. Congress knew it and it was public knowledge thru news reports.....so, why did no one say anything until now?
First that is your take of the rights view on them second two of them were wanted by the United Nations for war crimes.So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
They are top echelon Taliban leaders. You really need to google more. From right wing to left wing publications all confirm that Obama released leaders not 5 Mohammed six packs.
Oh and one guy you really might want to look up is a mass murderer. Fazi. Known for his massacres of Afghan civilians. Shiites his favorite victims.
Not right wing propaganda.
I did google them...and they were the five in the negotiations for the last few years and they were REPORTED to be the five potentially to be traded. Congress knew it and it was public knowledge thru news reports.....so, why did no one say anything until now?
Damn--you sound just like our President. Is that where you got it from ?
why does his opinion on a hypothetical situation matter?
also, the pertinent question to have asked him is would he rather be left in the hands of the enemy than have all avenues of rescue explored?
Actual the Military ask the {President numerous times if they had permission to rescue him and the President said NO.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
Hey Carb. I got a profile for you of one of the sweethearts the asshole in the White House released.
He'll get to terrorize civilians again thanks to your hero. Afghanis are dismayed and frightened and totally at a loss on why King B. H. O. would release someone who was so ruthless and vicious.
Yuppers. The love of the left in the White House has released a mass murderer to torment punish and kill again.
Unreal. Poor people. Obama's unleashed hell on earth on these poor souls again. Their blood will be on Obama's hands.
Obamas Taliban release terrifies Afghan locals; 300K ran for their lives from Mohammed Fazi
President Obama has a new set of critics of his decision to release five suspected terrorists from Guantanamo Bay detention center for Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl individuals from a population of 300,000 Afghans who literally ran for their lives from Mohammed Fazl in 1999.
Local residents are responding with fear and dismay to the U.S. release of the notorious commander, who perpetrated a scorched earth offensive to obtain control, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.
AND
In terms of military significance, Fazl was the most important, the Journal reported.
Obama's Taliban release terrifies Afghan locals; 300K ran for their lives from Mohammed Fazl in 1999 - Washington Times
First that is your take of the rights view on them second two of them were wanted by the United Nations for war crimes.So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
Mullah Norullah Noori
As a senior Taliban military commander, Noori has been described in government reports as a military mastermind of sorts who engaged in hostilities against U.S. and Coalition forces in Zabul Province. Noori, who is estimated to be around 46 or 47 years old, has developed close ties to Taliban leader Mullah Omar and other senior Taliban officials, according to a JTF-GTMO report. Noori, who was named as the Taliban governor for the Balkh and Lagman provinces, is wanted by the United Nations for war crimes including the murder and torture of thousands of Shiite Muslims. Noori has been able to remain a significant figure to Taliban supporters and sympathizers. According to government records, which are based on conversations with Noori, he grew up in Shajoy where he learned to read and write at a mosque in his village. His father was the imam at the mosque. As a boy, he worked as a farmer on his fathers land. In March 1999, he traveled to Kabul where he met with Mullah Yunis, the commander of the Taliban security base, and expressed interest in joining the Taliban. After the Taliban front lines fell in November 2001, Noori traveled to Konduz where he was trained and worked with Omar. Noori has been implicated in the murder of thousands of Shiites in northern Afghanistan. When asked about the killings, Noori did not express any regret and stated they did what they needed to do in their struggle to establish their ideal state.
Mullah Mohammad Fazi
As the Talibans former deputy defense minister, Fazi was held at Guantanamo after being identified as an enemy combatant by the United States. Fazi is an admitted senior commander who served as chief of staff of the Taliban Army and as a commander of its 22nd Division. Hes also wanted by the United Nations on war crimes for the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan. According to documents, Fazi wielded considerable influence throughout the northern region of Afghanistan and his influence continued after his capture. The Taliban has used Fazis capture as a recruiting tool. If released, detainee would likely rejoin the Taliban and establish ties with other terrorist groups, the Guantanamo report says.
This one may not be war crimes but it's pretty close.
Abdul Haq Wasiq
Thought to be in his early 40s, Wasiq served as the Taliban deputy minister of intelligence and had direct access to Taliban and Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin leadership, according to an internal memo that assessed risk at Guantanamo. He reportedly used his office to support Al Qaeda and to assist Taliban personnel elude capture. He also reportedly arranged for Al Qaeda personnel to train Taliban intelligence staff. Wasiq belongs to the Khogyani Tribe and began his religious training under his father, Muhammad Saleem, who died in 1981.Three years later, he went to study Islam at Warah, a school located on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border near the Khyber Pass. When the Taliban assumed control in Afghanistan, a number of Islamic students, including Wasiq, went to Kabul. Wasiq has been accused by Human Rights Watch of mass killings and torture. According to a report by the Joint Task Force Guantanamo, Wasiq arranged for Al Qaeda personnel to train Taliban intelligence staff in intelligence methods.
So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
You do understand the concept of a battlefield, correct? It's not like a crime scene, dear, where there is time to gather evidence, which is needed to convict someone.
First that is your take of the rights view on them second two of them were wanted by the United Nations for war crimes.So if these 5 Taliban were the worst terrorists in the history of mankind, which is the rightwing propaganda machine's take,
how come no one could come up with any crimes to charge them with?
Mullah Norullah Noori
As a senior Taliban military commander, Noori has been described in government reports as a military mastermind of sorts who engaged in hostilities against U.S. and Coalition forces in Zabul Province. Noori, who is estimated to be around 46 or 47 years old, has developed close ties to Taliban leader Mullah Omar and other senior Taliban officials, according to a JTF-GTMO report. Noori, who was named as the Taliban governor for the Balkh and Lagman provinces, is wanted by the United Nations for war crimes including the murder and torture of thousands of Shiite Muslims. Noori has been able to remain a significant figure to Taliban supporters and sympathizers. According to government records, which are based on conversations with Noori, he grew up in Shajoy where he learned to read and write at a mosque in his village. His father was the imam at the mosque. As a boy, he worked as a farmer on his fathers land. In March 1999, he traveled to Kabul where he met with Mullah Yunis, the commander of the Taliban security base, and expressed interest in joining the Taliban. After the Taliban front lines fell in November 2001, Noori traveled to Konduz where he was trained and worked with Omar. Noori has been implicated in the murder of thousands of Shiites in northern Afghanistan. When asked about the killings, Noori did not express any regret and stated they did what they needed to do in their struggle to establish their ideal state.
Mullah Mohammad Fazi
As the Talibans former deputy defense minister, Fazi was held at Guantanamo after being identified as an enemy combatant by the United States. Fazi is an admitted senior commander who served as chief of staff of the Taliban Army and as a commander of its 22nd Division. Hes also wanted by the United Nations on war crimes for the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan. According to documents, Fazi wielded considerable influence throughout the northern region of Afghanistan and his influence continued after his capture. The Taliban has used Fazis capture as a recruiting tool. If released, detainee would likely rejoin the Taliban and establish ties with other terrorist groups, the Guantanamo report says.
This one may not be war crimes but it's pretty close.
Abdul Haq Wasiq
Thought to be in his early 40s, Wasiq served as the Taliban deputy minister of intelligence and had direct access to Taliban and Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin leadership, according to an internal memo that assessed risk at Guantanamo. He reportedly used his office to support Al Qaeda and to assist Taliban personnel elude capture. He also reportedly arranged for Al Qaeda personnel to train Taliban intelligence staff. Wasiq belongs to the Khogyani Tribe and began his religious training under his father, Muhammad Saleem, who died in 1981.Three years later, he went to study Islam at Warah, a school located on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border near the Khyber Pass. When the Taliban assumed control in Afghanistan, a number of Islamic students, including Wasiq, went to Kabul. Wasiq has been accused by Human Rights Watch of mass killings and torture. According to a report by the Joint Task Force Guantanamo, Wasiq arranged for Al Qaeda personnel to train Taliban intelligence staff in intelligence methods.
The question is, why weren't they charged with crimes?
When have we done so before? And you just asked repeatedly why the Taliban prisoners weren't charged, seems you knew the answer all along.Yes. If you capture the enemy on the battlefield, and they cannot be criminally charged, they are prisoners of war,
and pow exchanges are a common occurrence.
