Looks Like the Trump Admin is Bringing Dark Secrets to The Light

Here is a test... simple question. Did Flynn commit a crime by lying to the FBI?
No, because quite simply the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses and I side with Dershowitz.
Perjury traps are unethical and illegal.

Comey and the boys weren't asking questions to gain answers. They were looking for a way to illegally snare someone in a trap.
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
 
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
So even a shit-for-brains like you can understand, if your big angry drunk daddy is holding a "switch"
(a branch used for whipping) and says "Boy, you either admit you took ten dollars from by overall britches, or I will tear the skin right off your bones. Tell the truth, or get the whippin' of your life!"

Would you say I stole your money, pa, to save yourself a vicious beating? Or would you try to reason with
your father and take the beating knowing you took nothing?
 
Here is a test... simple question. Did Flynn commit a crime by lying to the FBI?
No, because quite simply the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses and I side with Dershowitz.
Perjury traps are unethical and illegal.

Comey and the boys weren't asking questions to gain answers. They were looking for a way to illegally snare someone in a trap.
It’s not illegal to ask somebody questions you already know the answer to. I’m fact that exactly what lawyers do in court.... cops use it to determine if people are credible and honest. Again... not illegal
 
You’re point went off on your own little tangent and wasn’t relevant to the fact that lawyers are not arbitures of truth, especially defense lawyers. They defend their clients and used loopholes in the law and negotiation to achieve the best possible outcome for their clients. Pointing at what Flynn’s lawyers did proves nothing. The fact remains that Flynn is a liar and nothing can change that... you can’t win this argument. Sorry. Keep scrambling though. I’m having fun watching
Oooh...how ominous! You are watching. I'm sure you are because you seemingly do nothing but argue this issue all day every day with little to no success.

Well, moron, I never said that lawyers were arbiters of truth (though ipso facto the truth was certainly on the side of Michael Flynn as the government tried to railroad him and their case abruptly failed).

But you must claim this since the case against Flynn utterly collapsed under the weight of it's own lies and fraud and like a little rat you have to scurry around for cover now.
Your remark about Johnny Cochran still remains hopelessly dumb and pointless. Yeah, lawyers like Cochran
can use appeals to prejudice as a demogogue in front of an OJ friendly jury. But nothing like went on in federal court.

I said that Flynn got himself a decent experienced lawyer that knew how DOJ prosecutors use the might
of the US government to extract capitulation from defendants like Flynn, who lost everything battling
against Comey and his crooked FBI investigation and couldn't afford to have Comey turn on
his son so he agreed to Comey's lies.

You can stamp your little feet and call Flynn a liar all you like but the case against him flamed out
and he has been exonerated and now the ball is in his court as frauds like James Comey and Adam Schiff
are now on the defensive as new documents come to light exposing them as the liars that they are.

You are just a little voice crying in the wilderness of the epic corruption of the anti Trump forces of
darkness.
Whoa, that was a nice little rant there... did I hit a trigger? Calm down man.

You can pretend that there was some great revelation but this was a political game played by Barr and not an utter collapse of the case as you try and claim. Flynn lied to the FBI. That’s a crime. He admitted to it. A judge did not dismiss the case,Trumps lackey who now runs the DOJ is trying to sweep it under the rug. The lead prosecutor For the DOJ even resigned over the political decision to drop it. It’s an embarrassment.

dance around and pretend like he is vindicated but you are only acting like a fool.

The lead prosecutor For the DOJ even resigned over the political decision to drop it. It’s an embarrassment.

Yeah, a politicized prosecutor withdrew moments before the DOJ dropped the case. Yawn.
Why do you say he was a politicized prosecutor. Another weak baseless claim your pulling out of your ass?!
 
Many people did lie about the Trump Russia relationship and got ahead of the facts. IMO the scrutiny was justified as Trump constantly lied about his contacts saying zero contacts with Russia when several actually happened. When people lie they deserve scrutiny. But they do not deserve to be accused of a crime until ample evidence of the crime has been uncovered.
Go back and read my citation without adding your own layer of spin on top of it.
Thousands of pages of testimony reveal that there was NO evidence at all of a secret liaison between the Trump administration and the Russian government! Period!

There were no facts to get ahead of! And the testimony of many people, Schiff included, found zero
"facts" to support claims of collusion of any sort. They all clearly admitted this.

But when in public, and for the cameras and microphones, democrat officials and media sources went right
back and continued to lie anyway. It's the leftist way! How do you run an entire political party and run a propaganda 24-7 operation with no facts to back your lies?
I never claimed their was secret coordination between Trump and Russia in their election interference. Why are you taking us down that side road?
 
It’s not illegal to ask somebody questions you already know the answer to. I’m fact that exactly what lawyers do in court.... cops use it to determine if people are credible and honest. Again... not illegal
It is illegal if you take a deviation in fact, that is not significant or remarkable, and use that as a justification
for perjury prosecution (you forgot how many windows there were in the house you grew up in, for
instance).
You are recycling bullshit now from your other recycled bullshit. Sad, pitiful.
 
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I never claimed their was secret coordination between Trump and Russia in their election interference.
Never claimed Trump was in cahoots with Russia? NEVER? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
This doesn't even bear refuting. That you try to limit your culpability to the narrow matter of election
interference is a weak lame escape hatch for liars like you to try and squeeze through. It's absurd...bigly!

Why are you taking us down that side road?
Because it's not a "side road". It is the whole reason Comey went after Trump and Flynn.
Because the left is invested up to their eyeballs in the myth that Trump is doing the bidding of Putin.

The democrats HAVE to hate and destroy the republicans for something!
They can't possibly admit it's because the public prefers the pro American vision of life that Trump offers to the socialist bolshevik agenda the left is pushing!
So they ironically claim Trump is the Russian loving swine that they themselves have been since the sixties (since the 1930's actually).
 
Bullshit, Mueller found no crime and the corroboration was all hearsay that told a fantasy story by 2nd hand (hearsay). None of it was verified. Just a bunch of Russian propaganda that Hillary, Obama and the DNC tried to use to unseat Trump.
What know nothing dope is now trying to pull some embers of dignity out of the burning mess of the
Michael Flynn case by claiming the Steele dossier is really much more significant and noteworthy than
everyone thinks? Oh...right. Troll Boy.

That appears to be bull shit!
All that I’m proving are two very simple facts. 1. Flynn is a liar and 2. You dopes trying to excuse him and pretend he didn’t do anything wrong are liars as well.
All you want to prove is two little itty bitty simple so called facts that you state are highly relevant, as if somehow that blows the whole truth of the matter to pieces eh ?? Talking about grabbing at straws... Wow.

Never mind about what transpired in the bigger picture or scheme of things eh ?? Just you winning with your two little itty bitty so called facts eh ?? Rotflmbo.
 
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
So even a shit-for-brains like you can understand, if your big angry drunk daddy is holding a "switch"
(a branch used for whipping) and says "Boy, you either admit you took ten dollars from by overall britches, or I will tear the skin right off your bones. Tell the truth, or get the whippin' of your life!"

Would you say I stole your money, pa, to save yourself a vicious beating? Or would you try to reason with
your father and take the beating knowing you took nothing?
Yeah that would be a coerced confession but that’s not what happened. Nobody was holding a wiping belt during Flynn’s interview. See this drunk daddy parallel you are trying to draw is a straight up lie and nothing like what happened with Flynn. Grow up.
 
You’re point went off on your own little tangent and wasn’t relevant to the fact that lawyers are not arbitures of truth, especially defense lawyers. They defend their clients and used loopholes in the law and negotiation to achieve the best possible outcome for their clients. Pointing at what Flynn’s lawyers did proves nothing. The fact remains that Flynn is a liar and nothing can change that... you can’t win this argument. Sorry. Keep scrambling though. I’m having fun watching
Oooh...how ominous! You are watching. I'm sure you are because you seemingly do nothing but argue this issue all day every day with little to no success.

Well, moron, I never said that lawyers were arbiters of truth (though ipso facto the truth was certainly on the side of Michael Flynn as the government tried to railroad him and their case abruptly failed).

But you must claim this since the case against Flynn utterly collapsed under the weight of it's own lies and fraud and like a little rat you have to scurry around for cover now.
Your remark about Johnny Cochran still remains hopelessly dumb and pointless. Yeah, lawyers like Cochran
can use appeals to prejudice as a demogogue in front of an OJ friendly jury. But nothing like went on in federal court.

I said that Flynn got himself a decent experienced lawyer that knew how DOJ prosecutors use the might
of the US government to extract capitulation from defendants like Flynn, who lost everything battling
against Comey and his crooked FBI investigation and couldn't afford to have Comey turn on
his son so he agreed to Comey's lies.

You can stamp your little feet and call Flynn a liar all you like but the case against him flamed out
and he has been exonerated and now the ball is in his court as frauds like James Comey and Adam Schiff
are now on the defensive as new documents come to light exposing them as the liars that they are.

You are just a little voice crying in the wilderness of the epic corruption of the anti Trump forces of
darkness.
Whoa, that was a nice little rant there... did I hit a trigger? Calm down man.

You can pretend that there was some great revelation but this was a political game played by Barr and not an utter collapse of the case as you try and claim. Flynn lied to the FBI. That’s a crime. He admitted to it. A judge did not dismiss the case,Trumps lackey who now runs the DOJ is trying to sweep it under the rug. The lead prosecutor For the DOJ even resigned over the political decision to drop it. It’s an embarrassment.

dance around and pretend like he is vindicated but you are only acting like a fool.

The lead prosecutor For the DOJ even resigned over the political decision to drop it. It’s an embarrassment.

Yeah, a politicized prosecutor withdrew moments before the DOJ dropped the case. Yawn.
Why do you say he was a politicized prosecutor. Another weak baseless claim your pulling out of your ass?!

Why do you say he was a politicized prosecutor.

Because he was.
 
Here is a test... simple question. Did Flynn commit a crime by lying to the FBI?
No, because quite simply the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses and I side with Dershowitz.
Perjury traps are unethical and illegal.

Comey and the boys weren't asking questions to gain answers. They were looking for a way to illegally snare someone in a trap.
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
Now I do agree, that where there's smoke there should be fire, and if they found that fire then deal with it. Don't let it burn or keep burning, put it out already. However that fire didn't just start, so it's harder to put it out.... Stay tuned I guess.
 
Here is a test... simple question. Did Flynn commit a crime by lying to the FBI?
No, because quite simply the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses and I side with Dershowitz.
Perjury traps are unethical and illegal.

Comey and the boys weren't asking questions to gain answers. They were looking for a way to illegally snare someone in a trap.
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
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ya fuckschmuck
 
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
So even a shit-for-brains like you can understand, if your big angry drunk daddy is holding a "switch"
(a branch used for whipping) and says "Boy, you either admit you took ten dollars from by overall britches, or I will tear the skin right off your bones. Tell the truth, or get the whippin' of your life!"

Would you say I stole your money, pa, to save yourself a vicious beating? Or would you try to reason with
your father and take the beating knowing you took nothing?
Yeah that would be a coerced confession but that’s not what happened. Nobody was holding a wiping belt during Flynn’s interview. See this drunk daddy parallel you are trying to draw is a straight up lie and nothing like what happened with Flynn. Grow up.
so threats to your son wouldn't be a threat at all to you?

even your metaphors argue with you.
 
Yeah that would be a coerced confession but that’s not what happened. Nobody was holding a wiping belt during Flynn’s interview. See this drunk daddy parallel you are trying to draw is a straight up lie and nothing like what happened with Flynn. Grow up.
I have to hand it to you. You are as sharp as a hot air balloon.
If you don't think losing your job, your home, your bank account, your freedom and your son's freedom,
unless you play ball with the FBI, is coercive, then you just aren't a serious person, which we all know you aren't anyway. I crown you King Troll!
Go back to your kingdom and let everyone know that. I'll just console myself with the knowledge that
brilliant legal minds like Alan Dershowitz agree with me and not you.

But what do you care? You can pee into a Pepsi bottle and argue the same bull shit nonsense with twenty
people for days on end.
 
If the FBI is guilty of prosecutorial abuses then hold them to account. I’ve heard the right wingers make the accusations and I hear a ton of hot air, but I see no legal action. I feel another “wait and see” argument coming like the IG reports were supposed to land Comey and McCabe in jail. What happened there?! I’m not holding my breath. With all that said... FLYNN STILL LIED! He got fires for it and he got arrested for it and he confessed. Stop avoiding reality!
So even a shit-for-brains like you can understand, if your big angry drunk daddy is holding a "switch"
(a branch used for whipping) and says "Boy, you either admit you took ten dollars from by overall britches, or I will tear the skin right off your bones. Tell the truth, or get the whippin' of your life!"

Would you say I stole your money, pa, to save yourself a vicious beating? Or would you try to reason with
your father and take the beating knowing you took nothing?

There has never been any claim that FBI threatened Flynn in any way before he lied to them about his dealing with Russians.

Your analogy is bs.
 
It’s not illegal to ask somebody questions you already know the answer to. I’m fact that exactly what lawyers do in court.... cops use it to determine if people are credible and honest. Again... not illegal
It is illegal if you take a deviation in fact, that is not significant or remarkable, and use that as a justification
for perjury prosecution (you forgot how many windows there were in the house you grew up in, for
instance).
You are recycling bullshit now from your other recycled bullshit. Sad, pitiful.
If you were right with that then the judge would have thrown it out. Or is the judge also in the deep state tank?! Please say yes so I can laugh at you again
 
I never claimed their was secret coordination between Trump and Russia in their election interference.
Never claimed Trump was in cahoots with Russia? NEVER? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
This doesn't even bear refuting. That you try to limit your culpability to the narrow matter of election
interference is a weak lame escape hatch for liars like you to try and squeeze through. It's absurd...bigly!

Why are you taking us down that side road?
Because it's not a "side road". It is the whole reason Comey went after Trump and Flynn.
Because the left is invested up to their eyeballs in the myth that Trump is doing the bidding of Putin.

The democrats HAVE to hate and destroy the republicans for something!
They can't possibly admit it's because the public prefers the pro American vision of life that Trump offers to the socialist bolshevik agenda the left is pushing!
So they ironically claim Trump is the Russian loving swine that they themselves have been since the sixties (since the 1930's actually).
I’ve said that Trump had communications with Russian that he and his team have lied about and that deserved scrutiny. This is 100% true. I never said cahoots and I ever said there was evidence of conspiracy with election fraud. When people in power lie they should be held to account. Plain and simple
 

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