Majority Want Citizenship Question On Census, 53%-32%

[Ambivalent1]

there are not 7.5 billion people that reside in the US.

are you fucking stupid?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

@Golfing Faun

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

 

[Faun]

There are 5 sections of the 14th Amendment. They're not all about slaves. Section 2, which is about apportioning representatives, was, in the sense it undid the horrid counting of only 3/5's of a slave. That section clarified we were to count the "whole number" of "persons excluding Indians not taxed." That included non-U.S. citizens; which is why the Amendment states we count "persons" and not "U.S. citizens."

Capiche?

I "capiche" that you are nothing more than a partisan hack who can't se beyond the end of his dick. You don't include "non citizens" in determining how "citizens" are represented.

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

 

[Faun]

Because we have always had non-citizens living among us.

Jake? Is that you Jake the snake?

So your argument is---------------------->We always allowed them to steal our stuff, so we should keep allowing it?

Good argument, lol!

No, my argument is that the Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives. So, that is what I think we should do.

I am one of those odd few that think we should follow our Constitution.

“Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives.”

Which means asking if they are citizens.

It does?? Then why did they count Indians who were taxed who were not U.S. citizens before 1924?

Because they were counted as Indians, duh.

LOL

Who were not U.S. citizens.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

there are not 7.5 billion people that reside in the US.

are you fucking stupid?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

So, you are that stupid...

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Are all 7½ billion residing in our states? Because that is who we count.

no some have jobs overseas.

 

[Ambivalent1]

I "capiche" that you are nothing more than a partisan hack who can't se beyond the end of his dick. You don't include "non citizens" in determining how "citizens" are represented.

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

Tell me kid, how does section two refute any other section? You DO know that section two talks about those who have the "right" to vote right....? Do illegals have the "right" to vote?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Jake? Is that you Jake the snake?

So your argument is---------------------->We always allowed them to steal our stuff, so we should keep allowing it?

Good argument, lol!

No, my argument is that the Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives. So, that is what I think we should do.

I am one of those odd few that think we should follow our Constitution.

“Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives.”

Which means asking if they are citizens.

It does?? Then why did they count Indians who were taxed who were not U.S. citizens before 1924?

Because they were counted as Indians, duh.

LOL

Who were not U.S. citizens.

And were not counted as such. They were Indians.

 

[Tehon]

The context of the 14th is/was slaves.

There are 5 sections of the 14th Amendment. They're not all about slaves. Section 2, which is about apportioning representatives, was, in the sense it undid the horrid counting of only 3/5's of a slave. That section clarified we were to count the "whole number" of "persons excluding Indians not taxed." That included non-U.S. citizens; which is why the Amendment states we count "persons" and not "U.S. citizens."

Capiche?

I "capiche" that you are nothing more than a partisan hack who can't se beyond the end of his dick. You don't include "non citizens" in determining how "citizens" are represented.

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

I am inclined to agree with you. The government does not.

Here is the problem though. Equal protection of the laws means representation also.


All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th Amendment

 

[Ambivalent1]

There are 5 sections of the 14th Amendment. They're not all about slaves. Section 2, which is about apportioning representatives, was, in the sense it undid the horrid counting of only 3/5's of a slave. That section clarified we were to count the "whole number" of "persons excluding Indians not taxed." That included non-U.S. citizens; which is why the Amendment states we count "persons" and not "U.S. citizens."

Capiche?

I "capiche" that you are nothing more than a partisan hack who can't se beyond the end of his dick. You don't include "non citizens" in determining how "citizens" are represented.

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

I am inclined to agree with you. The government does not.

Here is the problem though. Equal protection of the laws means representation also.


All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

14th Amendment

This....

"nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Does not abrogate this...

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Democrats handed Trump even more votes.

Majority want citizenship question on census, 53%-32%

I agree why should a state be given credit for have illegals only citizens should be counted on the census

 

[Faun]

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

Tell me kid, how does section two refute any other section? You DO know that section two talks about those who have the "right" to vote right....? Do illegals have the "right" to vote?

Dumbfuck, who said section two refutes section one?

Now you're reduced to ascribing arguments to others that are not being made because you failed miserably to prove your own argument.

 

[Faun]

No, my argument is that the Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives. So, that is what I think we should do.

I am one of those odd few that think we should follow our Constitution.

“Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives.”

Which means asking if they are citizens.

It does?? Then why did they count Indians who were taxed who were not U.S. citizens before 1924?

Because they were counted as Indians, duh.

LOL

Who were not U.S. citizens.

And were not counted as such. They were Indians.

And yet, the Constitution says if they pay taxes, they are to be counted. Don't you ever feel stupid?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I "capiche" that you are nothing more than a partisan hack who can't se beyond the end of his dick. You don't include "non citizens" in determining how "citizens" are represented.

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

Yet those representatives are not representing illegals. They are representing citizens of their districts.

 

[Ambivalent1]

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

Tell me kid, how does section two refute any other section? You DO know that section two talks about those who have the "right" to vote right....? Do illegals have the "right" to vote?

Dumbfuck, who said section two refutes section one?

Now you're reduced to ascribing arguments to others that are not being made because you failed miserably to prove your own argument.

YOU are trying to kid.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."

NOTHING in the 14th ascribes "rights" of "citizenship" to illegals.

NOTHING.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

“Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives.”

Which means asking if they are citizens.

It does?? Then why did they count Indians who were taxed who were not U.S. citizens before 1924?

Because they were counted as Indians, duh.

LOL

Who were not U.S. citizens.

And were not counted as such. They were Indians.

And yet, the Constitution says if they pay taxes, they are to be counted. Don't you ever feel stupid?

most illegals are paid under the table.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

So, you are that stupid...

well actually that is a cut and paste reply from faun, I just don't stoop to name calling so I decided to let a "genius" reply to him"

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.

here's an idea, flood the state with illegals, count them but do not identify them, then stuff the ballot boxes till the votes match the head count...just spitball'n

 

[Faun]

Our government does.

Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Frequently Asked Questions

The context is the 14th Amendment son......shall I beat you about the head and neck with it?

LOL

You still don't understand "persons" includes non-U.S. citizens??

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

How does this apply to illegal Hispanics kid?

Holyfuckingshit!

Dumbfuck, you're referring to section one, which is about citizenship; while I'm referring to section two, which is about apportioning representation.

Yet those representatives are not representing illegals. They are representing citizens of their districts.

They also represent non-U.S. citizens who reside here legally.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

@Golfing Faun

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

You don't think they really care about that do you? if it wasn't on cnn, it does not exist

 

[Ambivalent1]

@Golfing Faun

"“all persons born or naturalized in the United States.”"
Fourteenth Amendment | Definition, Summary, & Date

You don't think they really care about that do you? if it wasn't on cnn, so it does not exist

No, I don't.

 

[Weatherman2020]

“Constitution says we count the "whole number of persons" for the apportionment of representatives.”

Which means asking if they are citizens.

It does?? Then why did they count Indians who were taxed who were not U.S. citizens before 1924?

Because they were counted as Indians, duh.

LOL

Who were not U.S. citizens.

And were not counted as such. They were Indians.

And yet, the Constitution says if they pay taxes, they are to be counted. Don't you ever feel stupid?

And yet, the Constitution says if they pay taxes, they are to be counted.

All you have is dumbass lies.

If Putin took a 2 month job working in Los Angeles, he’s paying US taxes.