Man Being Tested At Mount Sinai Hospital For Possible Ebola Virus

[JimBowie1958]

Who here believes that Ebola can be contracted by breathing in air?

There is no conclusive evidence but it is strongly suggestive and will require more study. Meanwhile why not take precautions?

Ebola Mode of Transmission: (Canadian site) In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated.

Ebola virus - Pathogen Safety Data Sheets

Ebola spread to these monkeys through the air, so why cant it also happen to people too?
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Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long. Fomites are inanimate objects that can transmit disease if they are contaminated with infectious agents. In this study, a monkey’s cage could have been contaminated when workers were cleaning a nearby pig cage. If the monkey touched the contaminated cage surface and then its mouth or eyes, it could have been infected. Author Dr. Gary Kobinger suspects that the virus is transmitted through droplets, not fomites, because evidence of infection in the lungs of the monkeys indicated that the virus was inhaled.
From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne | HealthMap

Such as? You still have not told us how you are protecting your family.

Why should I tell you?

What should we do, as a nation, by way of precautions?

lol, if you cant figure that one out, essplaining it to you would do no good. Besides, you never answer my questions so go fuck yourself.

And......the virus is NOT airborne. Precautions in that direction would be retarded.

There are indications that it may have mutated into a form capable of air borne transmission, and you certainly do not have the knowledge or or information sources to say with any legitimacy that it has not.

I trust the Canadian health systems verdict more than some jack ass like you shooting his mouth off on a message board, Twinky.

 

[Politico]

The guy does not have Ebola. He has the runs. Jesus the looney is getting deep.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The guy does not have Ebola. He has the runs. Jesus the looney is getting deep.

obviously one man testing negative proves there is no Ebola pandemic

Quick, call the CDC and let them know!

They just went to 'high alert'.

Hospitals, airports on high alert for ebola - New York Business Journal

And it was proven that some strains of Ebola can be spread air borne all the way back to 1995.

Lethal experimental infections of rhesus mo... [Int J Exp Pathol. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI

The potential of aerogenic infection by Ebola virus was established by using a head-only exposure aerosol system. Virus-containing droplets of 0.8-1.2 microns were generated and administered into the respiratory tract of rhesus monkeys via inhalation. Inhalation of viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units of virus caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days.

 

[Politico]

No it obviously the fact all news media are a bunch of bobbleheads who feed the conspiracy theorists.

Now go ahead and insult me then blame it on the Aspergers that if you had it you could not possibly know you just said something wrong.

 

[Theowl32]

Liberals still saying there is nothing to be worried about in regards to Ebola.

Holy shit. Are there classes that these people take where they learn to be morons?

 

[Peach]

Liberals still saying there is nothing to be worried about in regards to Ebola.

Holy shit. Are there classes that these people take where they learn to be morons?

No dispute from me, the US needs to watch carefully, and rev up research, ASAP.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No it obviously the fact all news media are a bunch of bobbleheads who feed the conspiracy theorists.

Are you serious? Yes, journalists tend to be the lower 10% who had to find something for a major in college that they could do reasonably well, but mostly they just quote the experts.

The linky I gave to the research paper from 1995 has nothing to do with talking heads, bobble heads, toilet heads, pimple heads, or any other kind of heads. It was written by scientists who did their own research.

Now go ahead and insult me then blame it on the Aspergers that if you had it you could not possibly know you just said something wrong.

Man, you still sore about that?

Wow, let it go. Life is too short.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Liberals still saying there is nothing to be worried about in regards to Ebola.

Holy shit. Are there classes that these people take where they learn to be morons?

No dispute from me, the US needs to watch carefully, and rev up research, ASAP.

Especially since there is some evidence, though not conclusive, that Ebola may have an air borne strain and this might be that strain.

It would explain to a great degree why they have not been able to control its spread.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Liberals still saying there is nothing to be worried about in regards to Ebola.

Holy shit. Are there classes that these people take where they learn to be morons?

Yes, it isn't one class, but the old classics on how to think critically, how to use evidence, to do your own research and the concept of objective Truth are taught much less today to nonSTEM majors. Unless you look for a class that teaches such things, most colleges no longer teach the old 'liberal core' classes that were once regarded as essential for a modern person to be considered an educated man.

Our higher educational system is mostly a farm system for professional basketball and American football that does double duty as trade schools for the fish that enroll each year.

 

[Peach]

Liberals still saying there is nothing to be worried about in regards to Ebola.

Holy shit. Are there classes that these people take where they learn to be morons?

No dispute from me, the US needs to watch carefully, and rev up research, ASAP.

Especially since there is some evidence, though not conclusive, that Ebola may have an air borne strain and this might be that strain.

It would explain to a great degree why they have not been able to control its spread.

Or spread by casual contact, taking no chances is the best response, and may save lives.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No dispute from me, the US needs to watch carefully, and rev up research, ASAP.

Especially since there is some evidence, though not conclusive, that Ebola may have an air borne strain and this might be that strain.

It would explain to a great degree why they have not been able to control its spread.

Or spread by casual contact, taking no chances is the best response, and may save lives.

It looks like the CDC is now taking this very seriously and have escalated their status to the highest level they have.

But institutions require time to gear up; I hope they haven't waited too long. Can we make enough of that new serum to meet the demand? The quicker they act in an informed way, the more time works in their favor.

 

[JimBowie1958]

A Nigerian nurse who treated a man with Ebola is now dead and five other people are sick with one of the world's most virulent diseases after coming into contact with him, the country's health minister said Wednesday.

The growing number of cases in Lagos, a megacity of some 21 million people, comes as authorities acknowledge they did not treat Patrick Sawyer as an Ebola patient and isolate him for the first 24 hours after his arrival in Nigeria last month. Sawyer, a 40-year-old American of Liberian descent with a wife and three young daughters in Minnesota, was traveling on a business flight to Nigeria when he fell ill.

The death of the unidentified nurse marks the second Ebola death in Nigeria, and is a very worrisome development since it is the Africa's most populous country and Lagos, where the deaths occurred, one of its biggest cities.

Ebola Update: Second Nigerian dies; Saudi Arabia man dies in possible case | syracuse.com

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is an important piece of information, if I am reading it right.

WHO | Ebola virus disease

Ebola then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. ....

Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.

So Ebola is a type of STD in in the recovery phase after ALL SYMPTOMS are gone.

Also, note the following...

People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from semen 61 days after onset of illness in a man who was infected in a laboratory.

Wouldn't this not also include sweat? Some people have been able to become infected by touching corpses...so how can the person NOT be contagious while alive and carrying the virus after showing no more symptoms but while still carrying the disease?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hope for a treatment emerges....

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/07/business/an-obscure-biotech-firm-hurries-ebola-treatment.html?_r=0

But the San Diego-based Mapp Biopharmaceutical, the primary developer of the drug, was consumed Wednesday with how to manufacture more of it with an eye to providing the drug to more patients, probably in the form of clinical trials.

“It’s absolutely overwhelming,” Larry Zeitlin, the president of Mapp, said in an interview Wednesday. “We are discussing with the F.D.A. the right path to make the drug available to people as quickly and safely as possible,” he added, referring to the Food and Drug Administration.

There were signs that efforts to increase production were beginning. Caliber Biotherapeutics, a Texas company established with funding from the Defense Department to respond to biological threats, has received inquiries from the government about whether it could help manufacture ZMapp, said R. Barry Holtz, the company’s chief science and technology officer.

The World Health Organization said it would convene a panel of medical ethicists early next week to explore the use of the experimental treatment in the outbreak in West Africa. Currently, neither ZMapp nor any other medicine or vaccine is approved for treatment of the virus, but there are several experimental options under development.

How quickly the drug could be made on a larger scale will depend to some extent on the tobacco company Reynolds American. It owns the facility in Owensboro, Ky., where the drug is made inside the leaves of tobacco plants. David Howard, a spokesman for Reynolds, said it would take several months to scale up.

Mapp was started in 2003 by Dr. Zeitlin and Kevin J. Whaley. They have worked together for many years, starting at Johns Hopkins University, on research that uses crops to produce immune system proteins to treat diseases in people.

Dr. Whaley, the chief executive of Mapp, and Dr. Zeitlin have not spoken much publicly since the news of the treatment broke on Monday, saying they are too busy and want to avoid the limelight. The privately held company has only nine people and has been financed solely by government grants and contracts, they said.

Libertarians call the office!

Libertarians call the office!

roflamo

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ebola's spread to US is 'inevitable' says CDC chief

Ebola's spread to US is 'inevitable' says CDC chief

Ebola's spread to the United States is "inevitable" due to the nature of global airline travel, but any outbreak is not likely to be large, US health authorities said Thursday

Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
But we are confident that there will not be a large Ebola outbreak in the US."

There is no treatment or vaccine for Ebola, but it can be contained if patients are swiftly isolated and adequate protective measures are used, he said.

Healthcare workers treating Ebola patients should wear goggles, face masks, gloves and protective gowns, according to CDC guidelines.


- Equipment lacking -

However, Ken Isaacs, vice president of program and government relations at the Christian aid group Samaritan's Purse warned that the world is woefully ill-equipped to handle the spread of Ebola.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Hey, looney-tunes! How about another lecture about how liberals can't think critically.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hey, looney-tunes! How about another lecture about how liberals can't think critically.

We don't require lectures as long as we have you to provide an ongoing example of inability to think critically, LooneyLaffer.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ebola Mode of Transmission: (Canadian site) In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated.

Ebola virus - Pathogen Safety Data Sheets

Ebola spread to these monkeys through the air, so why cant it also happen to people too?
*******************************************************
Airborne and droplet transmission both technically travel through the air to infect others; the difference lies in the size of the infective particles. Smaller droplets persist in the air longer and are able to travel farther- these droplets are truly “airborne.” Larger droplets can neither travel as far nor persist for very long. Fomites are inanimate objects that can transmit disease if they are contaminated with infectious agents. In this study, a monkey’s cage could have been contaminated when workers were cleaning a nearby pig cage. If the monkey touched the contaminated cage surface and then its mouth or eyes, it could have been infected. Author Dr. Gary Kobinger suspects that the virus is transmitted through droplets, not fomites, because evidence of infection in the lungs of the monkeys indicated that the virus was inhaled.
From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne | HealthMap

Newly released federal documents show that oversight gaps at the CDC Division of Select Agents and Toxins (DSAT) may have contributed to biosafety lapses at six laboratories handling pathogens including smallpox, influenza and monkeypox. As a result, the inspectors may have put public safety at risk.
"We found that DSAT did not effectively monitor and enforce certain federal select agent regulations at the laboratories," Daniel Levinson, inspector general for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) said in a July 2011 report sent with a letter to CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden.
"These weaknesses may have contributed to the laboratories not being in full compliance with certain federal select agent regulations, which may have put public health and safety at increased risk."
The documents of the HHS inspections of the CDC labs were released on Friday by the House Energy and Commerce Committee and provide insights into a repeating pattern of biosafety problems that date back to 2008 and span both the Obama and Bush administrations.
The inspector general found that in many cases, deadly pathogens wound up in the hands of people who had not been approved to handle them, increasing the risk that they could have been lost or stolen.
U.S. CDC lab inspectors may have risked public safety -documents | Reuters

The potential of aerogenic infection by Ebola virus was established by using a head-only exposure aerosol system. Virus-containing droplets of 0.8-1.2 microns were generated and administered into the respiratory tract of rhesus monkeys via inhalation. Inhalation of viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units of virus caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days.
Lethal experimental infections of rhesus mo... [Int J Exp Pathol. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI


Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness....
People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from semen 61 days after onset of illness in a man who was infected in a laboratory.

WHO | Ebola virus disease


possible treatment
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/07/business/an-obscure-biotech-firm-hurries-ebola-treatment.html?_r=0

Ebola's spread to the United States is "inevitable" due to the nature of global airline travel, but any outbreak is not likely to be large, US health authorities said Thursday

Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
Already one man with dual US-Liberian citizenship has died from Ebola, after becoming sick on a plane from Monrovia to Lagos and exposing as many as seven other people in Nigeria.

More cases of Ebola moving across borders via air travel are expected, as West Africa faces the largest outbreak of the hemorrhagic virus in history, said Tom Frieden, the head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The virus spreads by close contact with bodily fluids and has killed 932 people and infected more than 1,700 since March in Sierra Leone, Guinea, Nigeria and Liberia.

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travelers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries -- or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control -- and are here with symptoms," he said.
But we are confident that there will not be a large Ebola outbreak in the US."

Ebola's spread to US is 'inevitable' says CDC chief

 

[g5000]

Anyone who believes a trained Medical Professional, a DOCTOR, for christssakes, must have exchanged body fluids with ANYONE in Western Africa WHILE HE WAS THERE TO TREAT EBOLA is an idiot.

He could have been jabbed with an infected needle. There are many possibilities. Anyone who makes an assumption how he got it is the idiot. You call him a trained professional, but you act as if you believe he didn't wear a mask or a hazmat suit and got infected through the air.

"jabbed with an infected needle?"



Are you off your prescriptions?

I suggest you get a re-fill soon.

[MENTION=21821]Samson[/MENTION]
CNN.com - Transcripts

Doctor Peter Piot is one of the people who discovered Ebola:

ZAKARIA: But then, Dr. Piot, why is it that medical workers are getting infected? If it isn't - you know, if you do need intense contact and you presumably medical workers know how to take precautions, why are they getting infected?

PIOT: Well, certainly, a very dangerous moment when people with Ebola are very sick, Sanjay said, and with - you know, they need intensive care. You need to do - to take make sure that their fluid balance is fine. You need to, you know, draw blood and so on. And these are all very difficult and dangerous moments. There are finger pricks, accidental needle sticks that happen and that's how you also can become infected. So it's not a surprise that the highest attack rate of the virus is among health care workers. Nurses, doctors and we've seen it over and over again in every epidemic.

SO...you were saying?

 

[Samson]

He could have been jabbed with an infected needle. There are many possibilities. Anyone who makes an assumption how he got it is the idiot. You call him a trained professional, but you act as if you believe he didn't wear a mask or a hazmat suit and got infected through the air.

"jabbed with an infected needle?"



Are you off your prescriptions?

I suggest you get a re-fill soon.

[MENTION=21821]Samson[/MENTION]
CNN.com - Transcripts

Doctor Peter Piot is one of the people who discovered Ebola:

ZAKARIA: But then, Dr. Piot, why is it that medical workers are getting infected? If it isn't - you know, if you do need intense contact and you presumably medical workers know how to take precautions, why are they getting infected?

PIOT: Well, certainly, a very dangerous moment when people with Ebola are very sick, Sanjay said, and with - you know, they need intensive care. You need to do - to take make sure that their fluid balance is fine. You need to, you know, draw blood and so on. And these are all very difficult and dangerous moments. There are finger pricks, accidental needle sticks that happen and that's how you also can become infected. So it's not a surprise that the highest attack rate of the virus is among health care workers. Nurses, doctors and we've seen it over and over again in every epidemic.

SO...you were saying?

I'm saying, you know, that, when you're trying to make a point, you know, that you probably shouldn't, you know, quote anyone that sounds like a, you know, moron.