wirebender
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MODTRAN is just a program that uses measured data for the optical effects of gases, built up from many layers to resemble the atmosphere. if you dont think we can do that then you must think that satellite temperature data is completely useless as well.
It is a computer model based on assumptions and biases. No more, no less. It's output does not mirror reality and is useless for making predictions.
as far as your question about 2LOTD....you did understand my comment that explicitly states that it is the sun that warms the surface right?
I understand the question perfectly and understand that you have made up your own source for global warming that is different from that supported by the so called climate science community. Now can you answer the question or not?
The climate science community says that CO2 radiates absorbed energy to the surface of the earth where it is re-absorbed and reheats the earth.
FAQ 1.3 - AR4 WGI Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science
Clip: The Sun powers Earths climate, radiating energy at very short wavelengths, predominately in the visible or near-visible (e.g., ultraviolet) part of the spectrum. Roughly one-third of the solar energy that reaches the top of Earths atmosphere is reflected directly back to space. The remaining two-thirds is absorbed by the surface and, to a lesser extent, by the atmosphere. To balance the absorbed incoming energy, the Earth must, on average, radiate the same amount of energy back to space. Because the Earth is much colder than the Sun, it radiates at much longer wavelengths, primarily in the infrared part of the spectrum (see Figure 1). Much of this thermal radiation emitted by the land and ocean is absorbed by the atmosphere, including clouds, and reradiated back to Earth. This is called the greenhouse effect.
So believe what you want, and make up as much as you like as you go. That clip represents what the IPCC and de facto climate science has to say on the matter of the so called greenhouse effect.
Now can you recite 2nd law of thermodynamics or not, and tell me what that law has to say about the "official" greenhouse theory if you can get through it without choking on the words.