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"Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
All the years I did work in industry I have never had an accident...I am very careful and observant of my environment..I didn't get high at work...."Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
No it's not, plus they are easy to beat....All the years I did work in industry I have never had an accident...I am very careful and observant of my environment..I didn't get high at work...."Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
Good for you. The issue is the employer has the right to request a drug test and you have the right to refuse. It's no big deal.
"Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
--- which is why such a test would be done after that accident, just as a breathalyzer test might be done on a driver. Makes sense. The difference is in the pre-emptive testing, when nothing has happened to show just cause.
Nomsayin'?
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
Unless I'm being hired as a guinea pig to test drugs, no one has any reason or basis to invade one's bodily fluids.
yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...It's an invasion of privacy...I would never work for a company that did drug testing.. They can keep their money...You can smoke all the crap you want, but an employer who is paying you has a right to have you clean from drugs.
Not if they don't impair your job they don't.
An employee is hired for his/her labor ---- not the contents of his/her bloodstream. I don't know why people bend over for this shit.
Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
"Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
--- which is why such a test would be done after that accident, just as a breathalyzer test might be done on a driver. Makes sense. The difference is in the pre-emptive testing, when nothing has happened to show just cause.
Nomsayin'?
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
Unless I'm being hired as a guinea pig to test drugs, no one has any reason or basis to invade one's bodily fluids.
That is your opinion, and if I am hiring a person, I have a right to hire or not hire based on the results of a drug test.
yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...It's an invasion of privacy...I would never work for a company that did drug testing.. They can keep their money...You can smoke all the crap you want, but an employer who is paying you has a right to have you clean from drugs.
Not if they don't impair your job they don't.
An employee is hired for his/her labor ---- not the contents of his/her bloodstream. I don't know why people bend over for this shit.
Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...It's an invasion of privacy...I would never work for a company that did drug testing.. They can keep their money...Not if they don't impair your job they don't.
An employee is hired for his/her labor ---- not the contents of his/her bloodstream. I don't know why people bend over for this shit.
Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
What's next for liberals? Now let's mandate that companies have to hire a certain percentage of meth attics and heroine addicts cause they are a discriminated against part of the population. I vote yes.
Seriously this is bullshit though. If I own a company with tough positions and they're on my payroll, I will require drug tests. If anything else it will keep people away who are too dumb to pass a drug test using someone else s urine.
My eldest son is driving a big rig and he says they hardly ever test him on the road and he works 28 days out of the month. He has no wife or kids...yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...It's an invasion of privacy...I would never work for a company that did drug testing.. They can keep their money...
Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
I don't drive a commercial truck today. But I used to, for years. Never needed a pee test or blood test.
I have an issue with it......Progs have no issues with employers firing and refusing to hire tobacco users. But now they want special protections for potheads.
"Drug testing" is bullshit. Nobody should bend over for that kind of statist overreach. I won't even patronize businesses that do it.
I can't believe We the Sheeple just bent over for that shit and enabled it. Now look where we are. Good job, assholes. Way to stand up.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
It would be perfectly possible -- and indeed happens, often -- that some operator of said equipment fails to concentrate from, say, lack of rest the night before, or from being preoccupied with some outside matter. Yet his blood could be squeaky "clean".
It's the companies right to test if they want too. They chose not to so that's what they want to do.What's next for liberals? Now let's mandate that companies have to hire a certain percentage of meth attics and heroine addicts cause they are a discriminated against part of the population. I vote yes.
Seriously this is bullshit though. If I own a company with tough positions and they're on my payroll, I will require drug tests. If anything else it will keep people away who are too dumb to pass a drug test using someone else s urine.My eldest son is driving a big rig and he says they hardly ever test him on the road and he works 28 days out of the month. He has no wife or kids...yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
I don't drive a commercial truck today. But I used to, for years. Never needed a pee test or blood test.
I gotta disagree with you in this one case. People operating heavy equipment, or any other position where less than100% concentration can cause great damage or death should always be subject to drug testing. That's not to say that across the board drug testing for everybody makes any sense at all, but a few specific cases should, and I think will always be appropriate for drug testing.
Except a "drug test" is not a concentration test. It's a chemical analysis, from which assumptions must be extrapolated.
Aye, there's the rub.
The liability that a company must take on is very high, one accident in a commercial vehicle can wipe an entire company out and put 100s out of work.
--- which is why such a test would be done after that accident, just as a breathalyzer test might be done on a driver. Makes sense. The difference is in the pre-emptive testing, when nothing has happened to show just cause.
Nomsayin'?
Do a job that doesn't require drug testing, that is your right.
Unless I'm being hired as a guinea pig to test drugs, no one has any reason or basis to invade one's bodily fluids.
That is your opinion, and if I am hiring a person, I have a right to hire or not hire based on the results of a drug test.
And assuming you're not hiring as a drug test guinea pig, in which case it would actually matter, what's your basis for that? It has to be something a little more solid than "because George Bush said so".
What's next for liberals? Now let's mandate that companies have to hire a certain percentage of meth attics and heroine addicts cause they are a discriminated against part of the population. I vote yes.
Seriously this is bullshit though. If I own a company with tough positions and they're on my payroll, I will require drug tests. If anything else it will keep people away who are too dumb to pass a drug test using someone else s urine.My eldest son is driving a big rig and he says they hardly ever test him on the road and he works 28 days out of the month. He has no wife or kids...yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...Their right to require drug testing, your right not to take the job.
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
I don't drive a commercial truck today. But I used to, for years. Never needed a pee test or blood test.
Good for them, it's their company they can run it as they see fit, does not mean I have to submit to their will....It's the companies right to test if they want too. They chose not to so that's what they want to do.What's next for liberals? Now let's mandate that companies have to hire a certain percentage of meth attics and heroine addicts cause they are a discriminated against part of the population. I vote yes.
Seriously this is bullshit though. If I own a company with tough positions and they're on my payroll, I will require drug tests. If anything else it will keep people away who are too dumb to pass a drug test using someone else s urine.My eldest son is driving a big rig and he says they hardly ever test him on the road and he works 28 days out of the month. He has no wife or kids...yep..I can make my own income through my own efforts...
As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
I don't drive a commercial truck today. But I used to, for years. Never needed a pee test or blood test.
I guess you could join all the other jobless druggies...Good for them, it's their company they can run it as they see fit, does not mean I have to submit to their will....It's the companies right to test if they want too. They chose not to so that's what they want to do.What's next for liberals? Now let's mandate that companies have to hire a certain percentage of meth attics and heroine addicts cause they are a discriminated against part of the population. I vote yes.
Seriously this is bullshit though. If I own a company with tough positions and they're on my payroll, I will require drug tests. If anything else it will keep people away who are too dumb to pass a drug test using someone else s urine.My eldest son is driving a big rig and he says they hardly ever test him on the road and he works 28 days out of the month. He has no wife or kids...As do I. But if the bender-overs continue to let the whole thing slide, the day will come when we're required to test ourselves. Presumably some of us will have to inform ourselves that we can't hire ourselves because the chemical test says no and the what the State wants is more important.
If you fly a commercial airplane, drive a commercial truck, operate a commercial train, drive a commercial bus and own the business, it is already there.
I don't drive a commercial truck today. But I used to, for years. Never needed a pee test or blood test.
