Maui Burning

[john doe 101]

What do you call a science that is non falsifiable?

Your scientific experiments?

 

[Leo123]

We are both correct. What's driving Maui's devastating fires, and how climate change is fueling those conditions

Your link has no scientific proof and relies on 'experts' who 'say', etc. The article goes on to say the unusually strong trade winds are the result of hurricane Dora so your 'trade winds' as the sole reason theory is full of shit. The article reads "Hurricane Dora, which passed south of the islands this week, is exacerbating the low-pressure system and increasing the difference in air pressure to create "unusually strong trade winds." Apparently Hawaii's 'climatologist' had no clue of the impact of Dora until it was too late. He was probably cursing 'climate change' instead of doing his fucking job.

 

[westwall]

Your scientific experiments?

I don't do experiments. I'm a field geologist. Not that you would understand.

Now, answer the question.

 

[Leo123]

I dont have to be sucked into a black hole to prove that they exist.

We can see a black hole, climate change is not an entity, loon.

 

[Leo123]

Nice troll pal. Anything else to add?

Yeah, you're an idiot.

 

[john doe 101]

Your link has no scientific proof and relies on 'experts' who 'say', etc. The article goes on to say the unusually strong trade winds are the result of hurricane Dora so your 'trade winds' as the sole reason theory is full of shit. The article reads "Hurricane Dora, which passed south of the islands this week, is exacerbating the low-pressure system and increasing the difference in air pressure to create "unusually strong trade winds." Apparently Hawaii's 'climatologist' had no clue of the impact of Dora until it was too late. He was probably cursing 'climate change' instead of doing his fucking job.

Fair enough. But that does not dismiss the truth that stronger trade winds are also caused by increased surface temps of water. This increase in water surface temps would have caused the rapid increase in Dora's winds. Which goes back to scientists stating hurricanes will become more intense as the surface water temps increase. It just isnt some random act from god.

 

[Leo123]

They have. Open a book.

Have they? Have they made it rain in Maui yet to stop that horrible fire?

 

[Leo123]

Fair enough. But that does not dismiss the truth that stronger trade winds are also caused by increased surface temps of water. This increase in water surface temps would have caused the rapid increase in Dora's winds. Which goes back to scientists stating hurricanes will become more intense as the surface water temps increase. It just isnt some random act from god.

Hurricanes have not become more intense or more prevalent so, there is that.

 

[john doe 101]

We can see a black hole, climate change is not an entity, loon.

You cant see a black hole, dummy.

 

[Leo123]

You cant see a black hole, dummy.

That is what a black hole looks like in space, fuckwad.

 

[john doe 101]

Hurricanes have not become more intense or more prevalent so, there is that.

Hurricanes and Climate Change

www.c2es.org

"Warmer sea surface temperatures intensify tropical storm wind speeds, giving them the potential to deliver more damage if they make landfall. Over the 39-year period from 1979-2017, the number of major hurricanes has increased while the number of smaller hurricanes has decreased. Based on modeling, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts an increase in Category 4 and 5 hurricanes, alongside increased hurricane wind speeds."

 

[john doe 101]

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That is what a black hole looks like in space, fuckwad.

You cant directly observe a black hole. You can only infer their presense. You can only see light that is bent by a black hole. Which is what I"m assuming we are looking at here. Maybe the scientist will chime in on this.

 

[john doe 101]

I don't do experiments. I'm a field geologist. Not that you would understand.

Now, answer the question.

No you're a retired old man that has lost grasp on reality.

 

[westwall]

Hurricanes and Climate Change

www.c2es.org

"Warmer sea surface temperatures intensify tropical storm wind speeds, giving them the potential to deliver more damage if they make landfall. Over the 39-year period from 1979-2017, the number of major hurricanes has increased while the number of smaller hurricanes has decreased. Based on modeling, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts an increase in Category 4 and 5 hurricanes, alongside increased hurricane wind speeds."

That's a bullshit claim. The frequency, and intensity of hurricanes in the 1950s was far greater.

That's why they only look at the re ord AFTER that.

That is called fraud.

 

[westwall]

No you're a retired old man that has lost grasp on reality.

And still you dodge the question.

Here, I will make it easy for you.

A science that non falsifiable is classified as a pseudo science.

Feel free to look that term up too.

 

[john doe 101]

That's a bullshit claim. The frequency, and intensity of hurricanes in the 1950s was far greater.

That's why they only look at the re ord AFTER that.

That is called fraud.

This coming from a guy who said Einstein was never proven wrong.

The Saffir-Simpson scale that measure hurricane intensity wasnt developed until1971. Before that, it was just anecdotal evidence. Which is right up your alley in your version of science, right? We'll just go on your word that it was greater in the 50's. We'll submit your scientific study and see if it gets worldwide approval.

 

[john doe 101]

And still you dodge the question.

Here, I will make it easy for you.

A science that non falsifiable is classified as a pseudo science.

Feel free to look that term up too.

It's the .3% of "scientists" you agree with. YOu should be quite familiar with it.

 

[Leo123]

Hurricanes and Climate Change

www.c2es.org

"Warmer sea surface temperatures intensify tropical storm wind speeds, giving them the potential to deliver more damage if they make landfall. Over the 39-year period from 1979-2017, the number of major hurricanes has increased while the number of smaller hurricanes has decreased. Based on modeling, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts an increase in Category 4 and 5 hurricanes, alongside increased hurricane wind speeds."

Gee what a surprise! You fell for the media lies. Here's some reality for you.

Shellenberger: Media Lying About Climate & Hurricanes – ‘The media are consciously & deliberately misleading the public’

By Michael Shellenberger Over the last several weeks, many mainstream news media outlets have claimed that hurricanes are becoming more expensive, more frequent, and more intense because of climate…

www.climatedepot.com

Thanks to the NYT, who published a cherry picked graph, people like you who seem to only read approved legacy media 'news' think something called 'climate change' is somehow causing hurricanes to become more frequent and stronger. Reality:
"The reason we can’t attribute trends in hurricanes to climate change is that since reliable records started being kept the data indicates that hurricanes aren’t increasing in either frequency or intensity"

Hurricane damage costs have risen but, that's because over the decades places like Miami Beach have become more developed.

"Claims that hurricanes are becoming more frequent are similarly wrong. “After adjusting for a likely under-count of hurricanes in the pre-satellite era,” writes NOAA, “there is essentially no long-term trend in hurricane counts. The evidence for an upward trend is even weaker if we look at U.S. landfalling hurricanes, which even show a slight negative trend beginning from 1900 or from the late 1800s.” What’s more, NOAA expects a 25% decline in hurricane frequency in the future."

 

[john doe 101]

Gee what a surprise! You fell for the media lies. Here's some reality for you.

Shellenberger: Media Lying About Climate & Hurricanes – ‘The media are consciously & deliberately misleading the public’

By Michael Shellenberger Over the last several weeks, many mainstream news media outlets have claimed that hurricanes are becoming more expensive, more frequent, and more intense because of climate…

www.climatedepot.com

Thanks to the NYT, who published a cherry picked graph, people like you who seem to only read approved legacy media 'news' think something called 'climate change' is somehow causing hurricanes to become more frequent and stronger. Reality:
"The reason we can’t attribute trends in hurricanes to climate change is that since reliable records started being kept the data indicates that hurricanes aren’t increasing in either frequency or intensity"

Educate yourself. Stop buying into the sheep feed.

This coming from a guy who got a masters in anthropology. Maybe I'll start listening to the geologist on climate change as well. Nah, I'll stick to people that deal with the science of climate.

But where is his source to back up that claim? Oh wait. He doesnt have one. Besides his article is talking dollar value of hurricane damage, which last time I checked, isnt a measurement of hurricane intensity necessarily.

 

[westwall]

This coming from a guy who said Einstein was never proven wrong.

The Saffir-Simpson scale that measure hurricane intensity wasnt developed until1971. Before that, it was just anecdotal evidence. Which is right up your alley in your version of science, right? We'll just go on your word that it was greater in the 50's. We'll submit your scientific study and see if it gets worldwide approval.

Yeah, anecdotal as in we can determine the actual strength based on OBSERVATIONS.
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