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Define living wage.

And here we go with the victim language again.

It's up to you to make yourself desirable to an employer.

A wage that is high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why is it that the idiots on this thread are reading impaired? Below is the link - again, that I posted earlier on this thread.[/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

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The living wage varies based on the cost of living and taxes where families live. Families of four (with two working adults, two children) in the North ($56,179) and West ($53,505) have higher median living wages before taxes than the South ($49,167), and Midwest ($48,496). Within region, the largest variation is between Southern states, where the living wage ranges from $45,655 in South Carolina to $69,820 in the District of Columbia.

In most metropolitan areas, where the US economy and jobs are increasingly concentrated, the living wage is higher than the national median. Consistent with overall regional variation, of the most populous 100 metropolitan areas, Honolulu ($66,554), New York ($67,323), and Washington DC ($69,709) have the highest living wages for the typical family of four.

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[Skull Pilot]

Or we just pass living wage laws.

And tax the fuck out of the rich to create good paying public works jobs.

That works, too.

You know, here's the thing. YOu can only beat a dog so many times before it bites you.

Define living wage.

And here we go with the victim language again.

It's up to you to make yourself desirable to an employer.

A wage that is high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

Define normal

 

[Skull Pilot]

A wage that is high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

Normal standard of living has to be qualified? Since when?

I'll make it easy for you. What are your monthly expenses?

Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer.

 

[Star]

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

Normal standard of living has to be qualified? Since when?

I'll make it easy for you. What are your monthly expenses?

Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And yet-----and yet, an employer will have a more successful business in a community where money turns over within the community via monthly essential and non-essential expenses and-----and if you bothered to open the link to the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Living Wage Calculator[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] you would have discovered that the calculation does not say an employees employer should consider his/her employees living circumstances but----but does include in the calculation the typical living expenses for a given area and-----and for that, and many other reasons it behooves an employer to take into consideration what it will take for an employer to do/improve her/his business via the multiplier and other economic factors.. [/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

The living wage shown is the hourly rate that an individual must earn to support their family, if they are the sole provider and are working full-time (2080 hours per year). The stateminimum wage is the same for all individuals, regardless of how many dependents they may have. The poverty rate is typically quoted as gross annual income. We have converted it to an hourly wage for the sake of comparison. Wages that are less than the living wage are shown in red.
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Living Wage Calculation for Maricopa County, Arizona

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[Skull Pilot]

Normal standard of living has to be qualified? Since when?

I'll make it easy for you. What are your monthly expenses?

Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And yet-----and yet, an employer will have a more successful business in a community where money turns over within the community via monthly essential and non-essential expenses and-----and if you bothered to open the link to the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Living Wage Calculator[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] you would have discovered that the calculation does not say an employees employer should consider his/her employees living circumstances but----but does include in the calculation the typical living expenses for a given area and-----and for that, and many other reasons it behooves an employer to take into consideration what it will take for an employer to do/improve her/his business via the multiplier and other economic factors.. [/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

The living wage shown is the hourly rate that an individual must earn to support their family, if they are the sole provider and are working full-time (2080 hours per year). The stateminimum wage is the same for all individuals, regardless of how many dependents they may have. The poverty rate is typically quoted as gross annual income. We have converted it to an hourly wage for the sake of comparison. Wages that are less than the living wage are shown in red.
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Living Wage Calculation for Maricopa County, Arizona

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The big fonts and all the stupid colors do not make your point.

The simple fact is that your employer is not responsible for your lifestyle. You are.

You have to earn enough to support yourself.

It really is that simple.

 

[Star]

Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And yet-----and yet, an employer will have a more successful business in a community where money turns over within the community via monthly essential and non-essential expenses and-----and if you bothered to open the link to the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Living Wage Calculator[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] you would have discovered that the calculation does not say an employees employer should consider his/her employees living circumstances but----but does include in the calculation the typical living expenses for a given area and-----and for that, and many other reasons it behooves an employer to take into consideration what it will take for an employer to do/improve her/his business via the multiplier and other economic factors.. [/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

The living wage shown is the hourly rate that an individual must earn to support their family, if they are the sole provider and are working full-time (2080 hours per year). The stateminimum wage is the same for all individuals, regardless of how many dependents they may have. The poverty rate is typically quoted as gross annual income. We have converted it to an hourly wage for the sake of comparison. Wages that are less than the living wage are shown in red.
&#8600;
Living Wage Calculation for Maricopa County, Arizona

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The big fonts and all the stupid colors do not make your point.

The simple fact is that your employer is not responsible for your lifestyle. You are.

You have to earn enough to support yourself.

It really is that simple.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Whassa matta you - can't argue against, it's in an employers best interest to pay a living wage-----a living wage based on the cost of living in his/her community? and-----and therefore does have something "...to do with your employer."?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Try to stay consistent.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You said "Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer." now you're flopping to; "your employer is not responsible for your lifestyle." Why the not so subtle change?[/FONT]
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[Skull Pilot]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And yet-----and yet, an employer will have a more successful business in a community where money turns over within the community via monthly essential and non-essential expenses and-----and if you bothered to open the link to the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Living Wage Calculator[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] you would have discovered that the calculation does not say an employees employer should consider his/her employees living circumstances but----but does include in the calculation the typical living expenses for a given area and-----and for that, and many other reasons it behooves an employer to take into consideration what it will take for an employer to do/improve her/his business via the multiplier and other economic factors.. [/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

The living wage shown is the hourly rate that an individual must earn to support their family, if they are the sole provider and are working full-time (2080 hours per year). The stateminimum wage is the same for all individuals, regardless of how many dependents they may have. The poverty rate is typically quoted as gross annual income. We have converted it to an hourly wage for the sake of comparison. Wages that are less than the living wage are shown in red.
&#8600;
Living Wage Calculation for Maricopa County, Arizona

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The big fonts and all the stupid colors do not make your point.

The simple fact is that your employer is not responsible for your lifestyle. You are.

You have to earn enough to support yourself.

It really is that simple.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Whassa matta you - can't argue against, it's in an employers best interest to pay a living wage-----a living wage based on the cost of living in his/her community? and-----and therefore does have something "...to do with your employer."?[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Try to stay consistent.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You said "Your monthly expenses have nothing to do with your employer." now you're flopping to; "your employer is not responsible for your lifestyle." Why the not so subtle change?[/FONT]
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It's in the best interest of employers to pay what the labor is worth. If we had it your way the guy with 6 kids who picks up dog shit for a living would have to be paid more than an engineer with no kids after all the engineer has a lower cost of living right?

Now go play with your crayons.

 

[driveby]

A wage that is high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

Normal standard of living has to be qualified? Since when?

I'll make it easy for you. What are your monthly expenses?

I'll make it easy for you, I would never in a million years expect a minimum wage type job to pay my monthly expenses. The pay rate of any job should not be determined by the employees cost of living, comrade.....

 

[driveby]

A wage that is high enough to maintain a normal standard of living.

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why is it that the idiots on this thread are reading impaired? Below is the link - again, that I posted earlier on this thread.[/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

<snip>

The living wage varies based on the cost of living and taxes where families live. Families of four (with two working adults, two children) in the North ($56,179) and West ($53,505) have higher median living wages before taxes than the South ($49,167), and Midwest ($48,496). Within region, the largest variation is between Southern states, where the living wage ranges from $45,655 in South Carolina to $69,820 in the District of Columbia.

In most metropolitan areas, where the US economy and jobs are increasingly concentrated, the living wage is higher than the national median. Consistent with overall regional variation, of the most populous 100 metropolitan areas, Honolulu ($66,554), New York ($67,323), and Washington DC ($69,709) have the highest living wages for the typical family of four.

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Looks like the central planning calculator you ordered from www.socialistclown.nyet came early.....

 

[JoeB131]

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I'll make it easy for you, I would never in a million years expect a minimum wage type job to pay my monthly expenses. The pay rate of any job should not be determined by the employees cost of living, comrade.....

again, why not?

If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage, you shouldn't be in business.

 

[Star]

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why is it that the idiots on this thread are reading impaired? Below is the link - again, that I posted earlier on this thread.[/FONT]


Living Wage Calculator

<snip>

The living wage varies based on the cost of living and taxes where families live. Families of four (with two working adults, two children) in the North ($56,179) and West ($53,505) have higher median living wages before taxes than the South ($49,167), and Midwest ($48,496). Within region, the largest variation is between Southern states, where the living wage ranges from $45,655 in South Carolina to $69,820 in the District of Columbia.

In most metropolitan areas, where the US economy and jobs are increasingly concentrated, the living wage is higher than the national median. Consistent with overall regional variation, of the most populous 100 metropolitan areas, Honolulu ($66,554), New York ($67,323), and Washington DC ($69,709) have the highest living wages for the typical family of four.

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Looks like the central planning calculator you ordered from www.socialistclown.nyet came early.....

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Salvatore Babones[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] research, suggesting you go back a million years is ridiculous - 1968 is the gold standard for the minimum wage...[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"...[/FONT]If our standard for minimum wages had kept pace with overall income growth in the American economy, it would now be $21.16 per hour.

Yes, had the US income distribution and US standards of decency remained exactly what it was in 1968, the minimum wage would now be $21.16 per hour."

I grew up on the idea that America stood for progress, continual progress toward a better society. Even a $21.16 minimum wage wouldn’t represent progress. It would mean socially standing still, just with better technology and higher productivity levels. Progress would mean a minimum wage in excess of $21.16 per hour."

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And according to an article posted on the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]truth-out.org[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] website...[/FONT]

"...Could we imagine 1960s Americans setting their minimum wage at a level below the living standards of the 1920s? The minimum wage shouldn't just be raised back to the 1968 level. It should be set at an appropriate level for 2012.

Based on consumption growth since 1968, the minimum wage today would have to be $25.05 to represent the same share of the country's total consumption. Based on national income growth, the minimum wage should be $22.08. Based on personal income growth, it should be $21.16.

No matter how you look at it, the 2012 minimum wage shouldn't be $7.25 an hour, or even $10.55 an hour. Even the most progressive demands for the minimum wage are way too low. Too many Americans are living in the past. Working Americans should be living in 2012, not 1968.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Did you miss the memo - weren't Republicans instructed by their oligarchy to think the Earth is only 6,000 years old? -pewsh!-[/FONT]
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[OnePercenter]

Why is it that every idiot that ever makes this statement never quantifies it? ...

Normal standard of living has to be qualified? Since when?

I'll make it easy for you. What are your monthly expenses?

I'll make it easy for you, I would never in a million years expect a minimum wage type job to pay my monthly expenses. The pay rate of any job should not be determined by the employees cost of living, comrade.....

If you look back at the 60's, adjusted for inflation, minimum wage was $10.60/hr based on 40 hour/50 week schedule.

As an employer vs. a greedy scum bag, I can tell you for fact that if you provide excellent pay/benefits packages, you'll have better employees.