Men-Pretending-To-Be-Women DOJ Lawsuits & School Decrees Just Got Hamstrung: Judge Warns Lynch

[RetiredGySgt]

There was no reason to allow men (not on hormones, not presenting as female, not under a doctor's care) into ladies' bathrooms and showers because they say they feel like a woman, which is EXACTLY what this administration is forcing on us citizens.

No.

Please show where they are required to be on hormones, present as a female or be under a doctor's care. I've been looking everywhere for such assurances and all I can find is that it is the word of the individual that determines all. Thank you.

Just putting on a dress will not fool the police, the courts, or the women around at the time.

Close but no cigar, boys.

Look you retard Obama did not stipulate any restrictions, the ONLY requirement is that the person SAY they feel like a what ever. READ the fucking order you dumb ass. Further read the NC law that is being opposed. the ONLY requirement is that men that are not women be barred from women's bathrooms. If you have man parts you do not belong in a woman's locker room, bathroom or shower.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

 

[Jack4jill]

No.

Please show where they are required to be on hormones, present as a female or be under a doctor's care. I've been looking everywhere for such assurances and all I can find is that it is the word of the individual that determines all. Thank you.

Just putting on a dress will not fool the police, the courts, or the women around at the time.

Close but no cigar, boys.

Look you retard Obama did not stipulate any restrictions, the ONLY requirement is that the person SAY they feel like a what ever. READ the fucking order you dumb ass. Further read the NC law that is being opposed. the ONLY requirement is that men that are not women be barred from women's bathrooms. If you have man parts you do not belong in a woman's locker room, bathroom or shower.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

 

[Clementine]

Transgender people go both ways. And transgender people already use your bathrooms without it causing issues so, stop panicking.

You don't consider women rape survivor's PTSD an issue then? We'll just tell them they're silly for panicking.

They weren't raped by trannies, either. No one I know fears transgender people. And the "ladies" were using the restroom of their choice before the left got involved. All the law did was open up restrooms to anyone. That is dangerous.

 

[Vigilante]

THIS is what we are talking about....

That is utter crap. Grow up people, this is what we're talking about.

NO.... we aren't talking about fruits that look and act like girls, we are talking about PERVERTS that are now going to take advantage of a fucking ruling by the Manchurian monkey!

No, we are not.

This is why we have to bring the law into effect. You people act like children.

Bullshit, you FAGERALS have been using whatever bathroom you want for decades now, it's all because the Manchurian monkey wants to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE America that this shit is happening, one of you FAGERALS should pop him in his ass, but undoubtedly he'd LIKE THAT!

 

[Tresha91203]

Please show where they are required to be on hormones, present as a female or be under a doctor's care. I've been looking everywhere for such assurances and all I can find is that it is the word of the individual that determines all. Thank you.

Just putting on a dress will not fool the police, the courts, or the women around at the time.

Close but no cigar, boys.

Look you retard Obama did not stipulate any restrictions, the ONLY requirement is that the person SAY they feel like a what ever. READ the fucking order you dumb ass. Further read the NC law that is being opposed. the ONLY requirement is that men that are not women be barred from women's bathrooms. If you have man parts you do not belong in a woman's locker room, bathroom or shower.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

 

[Jack4jill]

Just putting on a dress will not fool the police, the courts, or the women around at the time.

Close but no cigar, boys.

Look you retard Obama did not stipulate any restrictions, the ONLY requirement is that the person SAY they feel like a what ever. READ the fucking order you dumb ass. Further read the NC law that is being opposed. the ONLY requirement is that men that are not women be barred from women's bathrooms. If you have man parts you do not belong in a woman's locker room, bathroom or shower.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

There is no need to fix what isn't true.

 

[Tresha91203]

Look you retard Obama did not stipulate any restrictions, the ONLY requirement is that the person SAY they feel like a what ever. READ the fucking order you dumb ass. Further read the NC law that is being opposed. the ONLY requirement is that men that are not women be barred from women's bathrooms. If you have man parts you do not belong in a woman's locker room, bathroom or shower.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

There is no need to fix what isn't true.

Your own link says otherwise. Please point to any other requirement than verbalization: doctor's care, hormones, appearance, anything other than the word of the individual. I've looked and can't find it. Your link says if a student verbalizes his feeling like a girl, the school must allow him into the girls' facilities. Surely there has been a doctor visit before this point, no?

 

[Jack4jill]

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201605-title-ix-transgender.pdf

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

There is no need to fix what isn't true.

Your own link says otherwise. Please point to any other requirement than verbalization: doctor's care, hormones, appearance, anything other than the word of the individual. I've looked and can't find it. Your link says if a student verbalizes his feeling like a girl, the school must allow him into the girls' facilities. Surely there has been a doctor visit before this point, no?

Common sense says the school is not going to make this happen because on Tuesday they claim to be female all of a sudden. Won't happen.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sil has once again created a thread about something that is not so.

 

[Obiwan]

THIS is what we are talking about....

That is utter crap. Grow up people, this is what we're talking about.

NO.... we aren't talking about fruits that look and act like girls, we are talking about PERVERTS that are now going to take advantage of a fucking ruling by the Manchurian monkey!

No, we are not.

This is why we have to bring the law into effect. You people act like children.

So you think the solution is to let an adult, obviously mentally ill man share a bathroom with someone's juvenile daughter (against her wishes)???

Who saw this coming???

Bookmarked and posting on all forums...

Thank you so much!!!!

The kid in my pictures said she was a girl at two, and has been living fully as a girl since five. She never acted as a boy, and she has a twin who did. Relax, Mr. Paranoid.

Jill...

I try to be fair...

But I have to ask...

Why the fuck are you concerned about the "sexuality" of a two-year-old???

Or even a five-year-old???

Am I seeing a side of you that you may not want out there???

Think about it...

 

[Tresha91203]

As it says the ONLY requirement is that the student claim they are a different sex, no requirement for proving it no requirement to do anything other then say they are transgendered. Further the NC law being opposed does not prevent transgenders from quietly using the facilities it was created SPECIFICALLY because Charlotte passed an ordnance stating that any man that claimed he was a woman could use women's areas no requirement for dress drugs or anything other then the word of the man or woman. And what is Obama doing? Suing NC.

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

There is no need to fix what isn't true.

Your own link says otherwise. Please point to any other requirement than verbalization: doctor's care, hormones, appearance, anything other than the word of the individual. I've looked and can't find it. Your link says if a student verbalizes his feeling like a girl, the school must allow him into the girls' facilities. Surely there has been a doctor visit before this point, no?

Common sense says the school is not going to make this happen because on Tuesday they claim to be female all of a sudden. Won't happen.

Then you shouldn't object to getting that in writing. The writing that exists now says it MUST happen. It specifically states that there are NO other requirements and the schools MUST comply on verbalization ONLY, under threats of federal sanctions. The schools cannot just "not make this happen."

 

[Silhouette]

Common sense says the school is not going to make this happen because on Tuesday they claim to be female all of a sudden. Won't happen.

Then you shouldn't object to getting that in writing. The writing that exists now says it MUST happen. It specifically states that there are NO other requirements and the schools MUST comply on verbalization ONLY, under threats of federal sanctions. The schools cannot just "not make this happen."

What's going to happen, of course, is that MDs and clinical psychiatrists will have to be called in to sign off. The trouble is, few of them will want the responsibility and liability of signing off on males being naked with female rape survivors in showers, locker rooms etc. And the reason is they know. They know the DSM has "gender dysphoria" as a mental disorder. They know drugging kids so they can be cut up later into mutilated halflings is against the hippocratic oath and illegal (The FDA has not approved the hormones prescribed to suppress adolescence for that use. Doctors doing so are in violation of federal drug laws).

So the "good luck" part of Jack4Jill's pet cause is getting real, actual, legitimate, licensed & insured doctors to sign off on boys showering with underaged schoolgirls. For one, the ones willing to step up and do that are probably one and the same who are illegally prescribing class #1 carcinogenic hormones to children. Attorneys for the opposition might nudge an investigation into their practices. Because, you see, Rachael Maddow isn't the only one who can play hard ball in this game..

And, BTW, I find it hilarious that Jack4jill brings up common sense. When you discuss high school boys getting naked in the gym and showering with high school girls, especially on just their subjective layman's word alone, common sense went out the LGBT window long ago.

Common sense dictates that a child should not be divorced from the hope of either a mother or father for life. And yet that's exactly what gay marriage does to them: courtesy of the 5 Justices who wouldn't know common sense on these issues if it hit them upside the head like a brick.

 

[OKTexas]

Transgender people go both ways. And transgender people already use your bathrooms without it causing issues so, stop panicking.

I don't care about trannies using the other bathroom. I do care about the government abusing the laws they created to mean something they don't. The courts have been doing this for 100 years.

Updating the law to reflect reality is abuse?

Who's reality, some mentally ill person?

No. The reality, that includes transgender persons.

When you can find a person that can will their sex organs to change by themselves, there's only surgically altered males and females with mental problems.

 

[Jack4jill]

Transgender people go both ways. And transgender people already use your bathrooms without it causing issues so, stop panicking.

I don't care about trannies using the other bathroom. I do care about the government abusing the laws they created to mean something they don't. The courts have been doing this for 100 years.

Updating the law to reflect reality is abuse?

Who's reality, some mentally ill person?

No. The reality, that includes transgender persons.

When you can find a person that can will their sex organs to change by themselves, there's only surgically altered males and females with mental problems.

We have people born with all working parts of both. What are they?

 

[Silhouette]

We have people born with all working parts of both. What are they?

Special cases on a case by case basis, signed for by medical doctors. For the purposes of this conversation we're talking about the 99% of men-pretending-to-be-women who are simply regular men-pretending-to-be-women, self-diagnosed, delusional and wanting to get in the showers with women.

Take your strawman to another thread.

 

[Jack4jill]

As he should.

There is nothing unreasonable about making reasonable accommodations for transgender people, especially kids. You'll just have to grow up and deal with others unlike you.

Reasonable accommodations would be no problem for most of us. We have already been accommodating TG's in the ladies' room for a looooong time. Your own link proves the only requirement is the individual's verbalization that he feels like a female. Can we fix this please?

There is no need to fix what isn't true.

Your own link says otherwise. Please point to any other requirement than verbalization: doctor's care, hormones, appearance, anything other than the word of the individual. I've looked and can't find it. Your link says if a student verbalizes his feeling like a girl, the school must allow him into the girls' facilities. Surely there has been a doctor visit before this point, no?

Common sense says the school is not going to make this happen because on Tuesday they claim to be female all of a sudden. Won't happen.

Then you shouldn't object to getting that in writing. The writing that exists now says it MUST happen. It specifically states that there are NO other requirements and the schools MUST comply on verbalization ONLY, under threats of federal sanctions. The schools cannot just "not make this happen."

I know you people have no common sense but most do. This is not about boys or girls playing dress-up for a day.

 

[Jack4jill]

We have people born with all working parts of both. What are they?

Special cases on a case by case basis, signed for by medical doctors. For the purposes of this conversation we're talking about the 99% of men-pretending-to-be-women who are simply regular men-pretending-to-be-women, self-diagnosed, delusional and wanting to get in the showers with women.

Take your strawman to another thread.

Yours is the strawman, dummy. Total crap.

 

[Jack4jill]

That is utter crap. Grow up people, this is what we're talking about.

NO.... we aren't talking about fruits that look and act like girls, we are talking about PERVERTS that are now going to take advantage of a fucking ruling by the Manchurian monkey!

No, we are not.

This is why we have to bring the law into effect. You people act like children.

So you think the solution is to let an adult, obviously mentally ill man share a bathroom with someone's juvenile daughter (against her wishes)???

Who saw this coming???

Bookmarked and posting on all forums...

Thank you so much!!!!

The kid in my pictures said she was a girl at two, and has been living fully as a girl since five. She never acted as a boy, and she has a twin who did. Relax, Mr. Paranoid.

Jill...

I try to be fair...

But I have to ask...

Why the fuck are you concerned about the "sexuality" of a two-year-old???

Or even a five-year-old???

Am I seeing a side of you that you may not want out there???

Think about it...

Gender and sex is not sexuality.

 

[OKTexas]

I don't care about trannies using the other bathroom. I do care about the government abusing the laws they created to mean something they don't. The courts have been doing this for 100 years.

Updating the law to reflect reality is abuse?

Who's reality, some mentally ill person?

No. The reality, that includes transgender persons.

When you can find a person that can will their sex organs to change by themselves, there's only surgically altered males and females with mental problems.

We have people born with all working parts of both. What are they?

Hermaphrodites, also know as a birth defect. Maybe you regressive sodomite enablers should look up the definition of "trans". It has nothing to do with artificially forcing anything to happen, ie hormones or surgical procedures. Oh right, you regressives have the sole authority to redefine any word to mean anything you want, right?

 

[Silhouette]

Hermaphrodites, also know as a birth defect. Maybe you regressive sodomite enablers should look up the definition of "trans". It has nothing to do with artificially forcing anything to happen, ie hormones or surgical procedures. Oh right, you regressives have the sole authority to redefine any word to mean anything you want, right?

Hey Tex, thank that judge in your state for me. Go shake his hand. The first judge to date who has had the balls to backhand the grotesque overreach, deception and outright lying of the Church of LGBT's legal team (the DOJ, same thing)...