Mr. P
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manu1959 said:sitting in a bar on a sunny beach watching nascar looking at half naked chicks drinking mai tais and fucking wif you....it just doesn't get any better.....and merry christmas
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manu1959 said:sitting in a bar on a sunny beach watching nascar looking at half naked chicks drinking mai tais and fucking wif you....it just doesn't get any better.....and merry christmas
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half naked chicks and yer on line? You need to review yer priorities bucko It ain't Christmas yet either, Happy Holidays. :rotflmao:
That's tops!manu1959 said:my highest priority is not getting busted by my wife
why do you feel the need to pick on me for having a bit of tounge in cheek fun?
ScreamingEagle said:Getting in a little late on this discussion but hey, it's still November.![]()
imo the words "Happy Holidays" is GENERIC, a cheap substitute and one step away from the real thing when using it as a greeting before Christmas.
It probably originally got started because many people (especially the kids) usually got the days off between Christmas and New Years. So the day after Christmas you can't quite say Merry Christmas anymore and it's not quite yet New Years, so whatdya say? Happy Holidays is a great in-between, filler kind of greeting.
Another thing that bugs me is that many people think that 15% of Americans are "other" religions. Actually only about 4 percent are members of other true religions - Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. Those 4% are so far and few between that saying Merry Christmas to them (unless you know them personally) is no big deal and they have dealt with that issue successfully since our country started. That leaves 11% who really have NO religion.
Since the ones who have NO religion are not actually celebrating anything, why worry about saying "Happy Holidays" in order to "include" them? They obviously aren't "happy" about anything since they aren't celebrating anything. My guess is that many of them are former Christians who have dropped their religion for one reason or another - many probably have fallen prey to the liberal propaganda pushed by the communist left whose goal is to stamp out religion in America. imo these poor souls are the ones who really need a good dose of Christmas more than anybody else.
We are still a hugely Christian nation and if we allow Merry Christmas to fall by the wayside in order to please a bunch of godless heathens, then we deserve what we get. We need to push back at them and assert ourselves and not be bullied into a bunch of pc crap about generic "happy holidays". Say out loud and be proud (like the gays) -- a Merry Christmas to all!
I am going to take a trip this season to Target and see if they have omitted the "Merry Christmas" sign as someone pointed out. If so, I'll be telling their management what I think of that.and that they won't be getting my business this year, all year. Going to steer clear of pc-oriented WalMart too as I'm not celebrating happy holidays, I'm celebrating Christmas. In fact I'm only going to buy in stores that celebrate Christmas.
ScreamingEagle said:Another thing that bugs me is that many people think that 15% of Americans are "other" religions. Actually only about 4 percent are members of other true religions - Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. Those 4% are so far and few between that saying Merry Christmas to them (unless you know them personally) is no big deal and they have dealt with that issue successfully since our country started. That leaves 11% who really have NO religion.
Mr. P said:Okay Pale..How is "Happy Holidays" catering to the minority?
Mr. P said:I don't get it, really I don't. From a business standpoint if you ignored 15% of my customer base you'd be the one fired..15% is a BIG number if you use the Wal-mart 138 million a week figure.![]()
Pale Rider said:We Mr. P, if I'm catering to the 15%, then I'm ignoring the 85%. Are you hoping that by bending to the will of the 15%, that they are going to out spend the 85% you're ignoring? The reasoning is this, if you're going to try and make ONLY the 15% happy, you're pissing off the 85%, and that's me. I like a couple others that have posted comments WILL NOT SHOP in a store that OMITS "Merry Christmas". They have DRIVEN ME AWAY trying to make the MINORITY happy. How is that good business?
MissileMan said:That's true only if you take the narrow stance that Christmas isn't included in Happy Holidays. The stores aren't saying "Happy Holidays except Christmas" although that seems to be what some of you are trying to allege. It takes some pretty thin skin to be offended by a generic holiday greeting that encompasses 3-4 holidays.
Pale Rider said:I'm old enough to remember how it used to be Mr. P. Merry Christmas used to be plastered EVERYWHERE during CHRISTMAS. This PC happy holidays has come about from pressure from minority groups and attacks from the likes of the aclu. Your happy holiday supporter of groups like NAMBLA. They have made retailers CAVE. It's comparable to terrorism in a sense. They have SCARED certain retailers into DROPPING Merry Christmas, even though that is what the holiday is. They want "Christmas" gone! After all, Christmas is about the "birth of Jesus Christ", and that is the son of the holy spirit, which is Christianity, and Christianity stands in the way of godless, immoral agenda.
I don't see how anyone over forty years old can honestly say they don't remember back when "Merry Christmas" was the greeting. We put up a "Christmas" tree, we hang "Christmas" lights on our houses, we went "Christmas" shopping, we visited relatives for "Christmas", kids got off school for "Christmas" break, Schools would put on a "Christmas" play, we would have a "Christmas" dinner, we would watch How The Grinch Stole "Christmas" on T.V., we'd listen to I'm Dreaming of a White "Christmas" on the radio, need I go on? And now you and some others all of a sudden don't give a damn if all this just goes away? Do you give up so easily about everything? Frankly, it makes me mad. I LIKE Christmas. I like what Christmas is about, and these retailers giving in to this rotten, loud, pushy little minority stripping "Merry Christmas" out of "Christmas" pisses me off. And people with the attitude, "oh, who cares what they say", well that's just EXACTLY the response these assholes attacking Christmas are looking for. That makes their job of getting rid of "Christmas", which is a religous holiday, all the easier. You're HELPING them win.
Someone In My Company said:We have checked the calendar and decided to hold our Christmas luncheon, here, on Thursday, Dec. 15th, 12:00 noon - downstairs in the open area. This looks good for everyone, on the calendar. Please try very hard to schedule all meetings, etc, around that date, so that we can all get together. Don't know yet what we will have for lunch - it will be a surprise.
There has been talk of the gift exchange again. You will hear from someone else about that. It will be at the same time as the luncheon.
*name deleted* will be putting out the "Toys for Tots" box, in the front office, downstairs, some day next week. He will let you know the particulars on that, for example, whether there are any special items that the Marines wish to collect and deadline for donations, etc.
Lastly, Christmas is coming guys. Have you got your shopping done?Please remember to mark your calendar.
I did indeed.Pale Rider said:Did you even read any of that?
MissileMan said:That's true only if you take the narrow stance that Christmas isn't included in Happy Holidays. The stores aren't saying "Happy Holidays except Christmas" although that seems to be what some of you are trying to allege. It takes some pretty thin skin to be offended by a generic holiday greeting that encompasses 3-4 holidays.
I guess the difference here is I dont allow the retailers to dictate what Christmas is to me. Perhaps you should reflect on why what they do is really that important to you Pale.Pale Rider said:...
And now you and some others all of a sudden don't give a damn if all this just goes away? Do you give up so easily about everything? Frankly, it makes me mad. I LIKE Christmas. I like what Christmas is about, and these retailers giving in to this rotten, loud, pushy little minority stripping "Merry Christmas" out of "Christmas" pisses me off. And people with the attitude, "oh, who cares what they say", well that's just EXACTLY the response these assholes attacking Christmas are looking for. That makes their job of getting rid of "Christmas", which is a religous holiday, all the easier. You're HELPING them win.
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MissileMan said:I did indeed.
I don't think that it's a conspiracy to slight Christians.
How the Left Stole Christmas
Merry Birth of Guru Gobind Singh Day!
By Tom Piatak
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come roundapart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything can be apart from thatas a good time: a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys.
These words of Scrooges nephew describe Christmas in the America of my youth. Christmas was a special and wonderful time of year, marked by kindness and good cheer, with its myriad celebrations all viewed as ultimately stemming from the birth of the One who, in Dickens words, made lame beggars walk and blind men see.
Todays consensus is different. In last years made-for-cable movie Christmas Rush, one character wishes another Merry Christmas, only to be told, Gee, that is politically incorrect. And so it is. In one generationI was born in 1964Christmas has gone from being a widespread and joyous public celebration to the holiday that dare not speak its name. We now have holiday trees, holiday cards, holiday parties, holiday songs, and even, in one particularly egregious advertisement, a childs first holiday. Simply put, there is now raging a War Against Christmas, in author Peter Brimelows trenchant phrase.
A hallmark of this war is an aggressive multiculturalism that has elevated a variety of formerly obscure or even non-existent festivals into faux-Christmases, principally Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and now Ramadan, but also Diwali, Bodhi Day, the Birth of Guru Gobind Singh, Dongji, and Chinese New Year. The reason for the elevation of these holidays is their proximity to Christmas, not their cultural significance or intrinsic worth. Indeed, Kwanzaa was invented in 1966, Hanukkah is traditionally a minor holiday (with no basis in the canonical Hebrew Bible), and Ramadan was virtually unknown in America until a few short years ago. Despite their recent provenanceat least as pseudo-Christmasesthese holidays are now treated as coequals of Christmas, with public figures sure to pepper any of the increasingly rare mentions of Christmas with references to at least some of these others.
The desire to efface Christmas that lies behind the elevation of Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and all the rest is illustrated by recent developments in the New York City public schools. The Thomas More Law Center is now suing the school system, which bans Nativity scenes but regularly display menorahs and Muslim crescents. Nor are the schools trying to rectify this now that their hostility to Christianity has been put in the spotlight. Instead, they are vigorously defending the ban, claiming that the suggestion that a crèche is a historically accurate representation of an event with secular significance is wholly disingenuous. The birth of the most important figure in history carries no weight in New York City, nor does the fact that the birth was first depicted in a crèche by another seminal historical figure, an itinerant friar from Assisi named Francis. It does not take a belief in the divinity of Christ or the sanctity of Francis to recognize their tremendous impact on the history and culture of the West. Apparently, though, the multiculturalists are eager to promote every culture but our own.
That the war against Christmas is part of a broader war against Western culture is shown by last years winner of VDARE.coms invaluable War Against Christmas competition. The Columbus, Ohio, schools banned a performance of Handels Messiah, which for the previous nine years had been the highlight of the year at a specialized school for the arts. The performance would have violated the districts religious-music policy, which came into being as the result of an ACLU lawsuit. According to the Columbus Dispatch, the policy stipulated that the proportion of religious music performed in concert be no more than 30 percent and that the performance of religious music be based on sound curricular reasons and not manifest a preference for religion or particular religious beliefs. The educational bureaucrats who devised the policy, trying to be helpful, suggested the students perform Frosty the Snowman or Jingle Bells instead of Handel. Their ignorance and philistinism is appalling, though characteristic of those waging the War Against Christmas. After hearing Messiah performed in London, Haydn was moved to exclaim, Handel is the master of us all! and to write his own great oratorio, The Creation. But, in todays climate of sensitivity and tolerance, beauty and artistic merit are scarcely a sufficient warrant for exposing delicate ears to the name of Christ....
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....The result of sanitizing Christmas is now within sight: an undistinguished, uninspiring public celebration, devoid of religious or cultural significance or indeed of beauty, with nothing left but multiculturalist pap and tawdry commercialism. I do not believe that grim fate is inevitable. But that future will indeed be ours if we remain so unnerved by the thought of giving offense to those looking for a reason to be offended that we are afraid to celebrate our own culture, tradition, and religion.
Mr. P said:I guess the difference here is I dont allow the retailers to dictate what Christmas is to me. Perhaps you should reflect on why what they do is really that important to you Pale.
If what a retailer is doing affects your belief and view of Christmas, perhaps its misguided to start with. Might I suggest removing yourself from the Commercialisation of Christmas and returning to the root. Just a thought.