Mexico's President Says There's No Way He'll Pay For A Border Wall

[BIG YANK BAL 1976]

The fool will pay for the wall its not his decision.

, Trumps not gonna be President so it's not gonna happen , just another wet dream for the tea maggots Cuntservatives...

 

[BIG YANK BAL 1976]

He's pretty relaxed for a man who thinks he might be facing a Hitler with the world's most powerful military including thousands of nuclear bombs on his border.

Is he incredibly brave?

Go ahead Nuke the Border, that means Texas will fry fine with me

You can only dream of nuking California, it's the 8th largest economy in the World, China will send Missles to the WH, before they see their meal ticket , and cash cow go...

 

[Correll]

Immigrant status is not tracked very well for criminals and prisoners. Different studies have found vastly different indications that seem to support both sides of the issue.

And your link cannot be read without subscribing.

Ah, I'm subscribed to the WSJ so I apologize.
The Criminalization of Immigration in the United States | Immigration Policy Center
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/jtf/JTF_ImmigrantsCrimeJTF.pdf
Why are Immigrants' Incarceration Rates So Low? Evidence on Selective Immigration, Deterrence, and Deportation - Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

Immigrant status is not tracked very well for criminals and prisoners. Different studies have found vastly different indications that seem to support both sides of the issue.

You keep repeating your claim. Please provide your studies.

Immigration and Crime: Assessing a Conflicted Issue


"This study examines academic and government research on the question of immigrant crime. New government data indicate that immigrants have high rates of criminality, while older academic research found low rates. The overall picture of immigrants and crime remains confused due to a lack of good data and contrary information. However, the newer government data indicate that there are legitimate public safety reasons for local law enforcement to work with federal immigration authorities.

Among the findings:

• The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that immigrants (legal and illegal) comprise 20 percent of inmates in prisons and jails. The foreign-born are 15.4 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, DHS has not provided a detailed explanation of how the estimates were generated.
  
  
• Under contract to DHS in 2004, Fentress, Inc., reviewed 8.1 million inmate records from state prison systems and 45 large county jails. They found that 22 percent of inmates were foreign-born. But the report did not cover all of the nation’s jails.
  
  
• The 287(g) program and related efforts have found high rates of illegal alien incarceration in some communities. But it is unclear if the communities are representative of the country:
  • Maricopa County, Ariz.: 22 percent of felons are illegal aliens;
  • Lake County, Ill.: 19 percent of jail inmates are illegal aliens;
  • Collier County, Fla.: 20 to 22 percent of jail inmates and arrestees are illegal aliens;
  • Weld County, Colo.: 12.8 to 15.2 percent of those jailed are illegal aliens.
  
  
• DHS states that it has identified 221,000 non-citizens in the nation’s jails. This equals 11 to 15 percent of the jail population. Non-citizens comprise only 8.6 percent of the nation’s total adult population.
  
  
• The Federal Bureau of Prisons reports that 26.4 percent of inmates in federal prisons are non-U.S. citizens. Non-citizens are 8.6 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, federal prisons are not representative of prisons generally or local jails.
  
  
• A Pew Hispanic Center study found that, of those sentenced for federal crimes in 2007, non-citizen Hispanics were 74 percent of immigration offenders, 25 percent of drug offenders, 8 percent of white collar offenders, and 6 percent of firearms offenders. Non-citizen Hispanics are 5.1 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, the report does not provide information for other crimes or for non-Hispanic immigrants.
  
  
• Recent reports by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) and Immigration Policy Center (IPC) showing low rates of immigrant incarceration highlight the data problems in many studies. The 2000 Census data they used are not reliable.
  
  
• An analysis of the data used in the PPIC and IPC studies by the National Research Council found that 53 percent of the time the Census Bureaus had to make an educated guess whether a prisoner was an immigrant. The studies are essentially measuring these guesses, not actual immigrant incarceration.
  
  
• The poor quality of data used in the PPIC and IPC studies is illustrated by wild and implausible swings. It shows a 28 percent decline in incarcerated immigrants 1990 to 2000 — yet the overall immigrant population grew 59 percent. Newer Census data from 2007 show a 146 percent increase in immigrant incarceration 2000 to 2007 — yet, the overall immigrant population grew only 22 percent."

Oddly enough, your "study" appears to have flawed data. (Your study is from 2009)
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf
Immigrants and crime: Crunching the numbers - CNNPolitics.com

Immigrant status is not tracked very well for criminals and prisoners. Different studies have found vastly different indications that seem to support both sides of the issue.

And your link cannot be read without subscribing.

Ah, I'm subscribed to the WSJ so I apologize.
The Criminalization of Immigration in the United States | Immigration Policy Center
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/jtf/JTF_ImmigrantsCrimeJTF.pdf
Why are Immigrants' Incarceration Rates So Low? Evidence on Selective Immigration, Deterrence, and Deportation - Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

Immigrant status is not tracked very well for criminals and prisoners. Different studies have found vastly different indications that seem to support both sides of the issue.

You keep repeating your claim. Please provide your studies.

Immigration and Crime: Assessing a Conflicted Issue


"This study examines academic and government research on the question of immigrant crime. New government data indicate that immigrants have high rates of criminality, while older academic research found low rates. The overall picture of immigrants and crime remains confused due to a lack of good data and contrary information. However, the newer government data indicate that there are legitimate public safety reasons for local law enforcement to work with federal immigration authorities.

Among the findings:

• The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that immigrants (legal and illegal) comprise 20 percent of inmates in prisons and jails. The foreign-born are 15.4 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, DHS has not provided a detailed explanation of how the estimates were generated.
  
  
• Under contract to DHS in 2004, Fentress, Inc., reviewed 8.1 million inmate records from state prison systems and 45 large county jails. They found that 22 percent of inmates were foreign-born. But the report did not cover all of the nation’s jails.
  
  
• The 287(g) program and related efforts have found high rates of illegal alien incarceration in some communities. But it is unclear if the communities are representative of the country:
  • Maricopa County, Ariz.: 22 percent of felons are illegal aliens;
  • Lake County, Ill.: 19 percent of jail inmates are illegal aliens;
  • Collier County, Fla.: 20 to 22 percent of jail inmates and arrestees are illegal aliens;
  • Weld County, Colo.: 12.8 to 15.2 percent of those jailed are illegal aliens.
  
  
• DHS states that it has identified 221,000 non-citizens in the nation’s jails. This equals 11 to 15 percent of the jail population. Non-citizens comprise only 8.6 percent of the nation’s total adult population.
  
  
• The Federal Bureau of Prisons reports that 26.4 percent of inmates in federal prisons are non-U.S. citizens. Non-citizens are 8.6 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, federal prisons are not representative of prisons generally or local jails.
  
  
• A Pew Hispanic Center study found that, of those sentenced for federal crimes in 2007, non-citizen Hispanics were 74 percent of immigration offenders, 25 percent of drug offenders, 8 percent of white collar offenders, and 6 percent of firearms offenders. Non-citizen Hispanics are 5.1 percent of the nation’s adult population. However, the report does not provide information for other crimes or for non-Hispanic immigrants.
  
  
• Recent reports by the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) and Immigration Policy Center (IPC) showing low rates of immigrant incarceration highlight the data problems in many studies. The 2000 Census data they used are not reliable.
  
  
• An analysis of the data used in the PPIC and IPC studies by the National Research Council found that 53 percent of the time the Census Bureaus had to make an educated guess whether a prisoner was an immigrant. The studies are essentially measuring these guesses, not actual immigrant incarceration.
  
  
• The poor quality of data used in the PPIC and IPC studies is illustrated by wild and implausible swings. It shows a 28 percent decline in incarcerated immigrants 1990 to 2000 — yet the overall immigrant population grew 59 percent. Newer Census data from 2007 show a 146 percent increase in immigrant incarceration 2000 to 2007 — yet, the overall immigrant population grew only 22 percent."

Oddly enough, your "study" appears to have flawed data. (Your study is from 2009)
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p13.pdf
Immigrants and crime: Crunching the numbers - CNNPolitics.com

In my post it discusses the problem that there is not good tracking on immigrant status of criminals and prisoners.

If that is true, and nothing in your post addressed that, then all studies are suspect.


"An analysis of the data used in the PPIC and IPC studies by the National Research Council found that 53 percent of the time the Census Bureaus had to make an educated guess whether a prisoner was an immigrant. The studies are essentially measuring these guesses, not actual immigrant incarceration."

 

[Correll]

Enrique Peña Nieto also compared Donald Trump to Hitler and Mussolini.

Mexico’s president finally has publicly spoken out against Republican front-runner Donald Trump, saying his government would not pay for the candidate's proposed border wall.

Enrique Peña Nieto largely has refrained from speaking out against Trump’s series of broadsides against Mexicans or his proposal to force Mexico to pay for a wall along the southern border of the U.S. But in an interview with Mexican daily Excelsior published Monday, Peña Nieto said Trump’s hostile posturing undermines Mexico's relationship with the U.S.

"There’s no scenario," Peña Nieto said, when asked if the Mexican government would ever pay for a border wall. "And I have to also say it discourages me. Of course I can’t find a way to find common ground with this position we’ve observed from this North American political actor."

When asked if he thought Trump’s comments amounted to insincere campaign rhetoric or honest policy plans, Peña Nieto said he considered Trump to be part of a long line of populist politicians who use harsh language and simplistic policies in order to harness public anger.

"In the end, these strident comments aim to offer simple, very simple solutions to problems that, of course, won’t be solved so easily," Peña Nieto said.

"That’s how Mussolini and Hitler got to power," he added. "They took advantage precisely of that context, perhaps, of a problem humanity was then experiencing, after an economic crisis."

In a separate interview with El Universal, also published Monday, Peña Nieto saidTrump’s comments "damaged the relationship with the United States."

More: Mexico's President Says There's No Way He'll Pay For A Border Wall

So, how will Trump try to explain/spin these words coming directly from Mexico's president?

Oh bitch, he said 'that's how Mussolini and Hitler got to power' about trump's rhetoric.

See, the similarities are not lost on the rest of the world. And Mexico just told trump he could suck it.

HIs lack of concern for the millions of his citizens in this country shows that he is full of shit.

No concern?
Yeah, sure. I'm sure you know all about Enrique.

If he truly believed what he was claiming, the safety of his citizens would have been the centerpiece of his speech. It would have been in the thread title.

Is Canada arming? Are they seeking alliances with nations to protect themselves from America?

He's not going to arm because Trump isn't going to get elected.

Your confidence is not called for considering the polls.

If Enrique serious thought that "Hitler" was polling only 3 points behind his opponent, he would, rightfully so, be in a panic, moving to get his people out and seeking allies and weapons where ever he could find them.

He would not be pissing off "Hitler" with personal attacks.

He feels safe smearing Trump with "Hitler" BECAUSE he knows it is not true.

 

[Correll]

He's pretty relaxed for a man who thinks he might be facing a Hitler with the world's most powerful military including thousands of nuclear bombs on his border.

Is he incredibly brave?

Go ahead Nuke the Border, that means Texas will fry fine with me

You can only dream of nuking California, it's the 8th largest economy in the World, China will send Missles to the WH, before they see their meal ticket , and cash cow go...

WTF are you raving about?

 

[regent]

I think President Trump will decide those decisions. As soon as the election is over, I'm writing Trump about my neighbor banging his garbage cans early in the morning. As soon as those two problems, the wall and the garbage cans are solved, I'll inform Trump about the national debt. It will be an America the way it used to be.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Just shoot the invaders as they cross, now no one has to pay for a wall on either side.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Shouldn't the left hate illegals because they are 'less educated'?

 

[Correll]

Shouldn't the left hate illegals because they are 'less educated'?

It depends on whether they are useful to the agenda.

If they are useful, then they are "poor" and "oppressed" and in need "help".

If they are not useful, then they are "stupid" and need to be marginalized.

Same as everyone and everything else in the world from GOD, to the freaking snail darter.

 

[Lakhota]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

 

[Correll]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

You are, personally.

 

[bripat9643]

Why not just invade the baya peninsula?

Did you mean "Baja" peninsula?

 

[bripat9643]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

 

[bripat9643]

I applaud mexico's president.

Of course you do. You hate America.

 

[Correll]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

Works for me.

 

[TNHarley]

You people really think trumps plan is to ask for a check? LMAO
Guess what people : We could cut off their funding or tariff the shit out of them. 2 ways they WONT be able to control.

 

[TNHarley]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

BINGO
If people would THINK...

 

[regent]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

Did Trump say that?

 

[TNHarley]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

Did Trump say that?

What other way is there? To ask nicely?

 

[Correll]

So, who's going to build and pay for Trump's wall?

Mexicans will pay for it when Trump cuts off their foreign aid and imposes a tariff to cover the cost.

Did Trump say that?

When engaged in negotiations, you don't publish your complete plan for the other side to review before negotiations start.