Michael Jackson: Serial Child Molester, paying over $200m in hush money

[Asclepias]

Why would an innocent person pay hush money, then continue to put himself in the same situation repeatedly? Here's a clue...a pedophile.

Repeating your merit impoverished argument doesn't actually make it stronger.

Avoiding answering it with substance doesn't actually make your defense of the pedophile any stronger either.

I can't prove a negative, you jackass!

You see nothing wrong with an adult man sleeping with 9 year old kids and I'm the jackass???

You cant help but be a jackass. Take your weak debating ploy for example. Who said they saw nothing wrong with an adult man sleeping with 9 year old kids except you?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why would an innocent person pay hush money, then continue to put himself in the same situation repeatedly? Here's a clue...a pedophile.

Repeating your merit impoverished argument doesn't actually make it stronger.

Avoiding answering it with substance doesn't actually make your defense of the pedophile any stronger either.

I can't prove a negative, you jackass!

You see nothing wrong with an adult man sleeping with 9 year old kids and I'm the jackass???

You cant help but be a jackass. Take your weak debating ploy for example. Who said they saw nothing wrong with an adult man sleeping with 9 year old kids except you?

I said it explicitly and he ignored it. That's what trolls do.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why would an innocent person pay hush money, then continue to put himself in the same situation repeatedly? Here's a clue...a pedophile.

Why would a parent WANT hush money instead of seeing the perp go to jail? Michael did not see himself doing wrong, and therefore continued wanting to be around children..and they, him. So he did. Usually pond scum merges with other pond scum, so those accusing him and accepting money to stay quiet when it was their kids? Really? And there are no red flags there for you?

So, because the parents were pieces of shit, that means he's innocent? Money talks. Why, after being accused of child molestation and paying hush money, did Jackson continue to sleep with children, knowing how it looked to the rest of the world? Because he didn't think it was wrong??? MAYBE it was because he's a pedophile and couldn't resist the opportunities he had for his crimes. Look at the history of pedophilia, they're all repeat offenders because they can't help themselves. Jackson fit the profile to a T. Just because you like his music doesn't mean he's a saint or is above reproach.

If at first you don't succeed, repeat yourself until you do. Good plan!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Watch the video


If you don't come away with this with some SERIOUS WTF's and raised eyebrows - then there is something very wrong with you.

Dude thats like almost 2 hours long. I'm not watching that.. If the cops had 2 hours of confession why didnt he go to prison?

Why are you even commenting in this thread?
You asked for a link to hi saying he slept with boys, carrased them, held their hands etc. etc, and I gave it to you.
If you don't want to know, would rather look the other way - then do so.

I'm commenting because I cant believe how stupid you sound thinking someone confessed to being a child molester yet no one put him jail. Are you really that much of a fucking idiot?

That much and more.

I'm thinking a lot of these Jackson haters are millenials who weren't even alive when Thriller came out. Yet they heard all about the child abuse accusations and those accusations are enough. This isn't even about the King of Pop, this is about the standard of proof that decent people apply when hearing rumors and slander about somebody. Michael Jackson brought joy to the lives of thousands of children suffering from cancer and all sorts of other health problems I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I don't even think it's possible to help that many children without an accusation like this surfacing, especially when there's a lot of money to covet.

I am 50

Just like Michael Jackson when he died. I guess if you're going to pull a number out of your ass, it might as well be related to the thread topic.

 

[rightwinger]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

People still think Mike did not molest young boys?

 

[rightwinger]

People still think Mike did not molest young boys?

Yup

 

[Asclepias]

People still think Mike did not molest young boys?

Of course. Whats odd is people still think claims silenced with hush money means he did molest boys. Seems to me at least one of the parents would love their child enough to make sure he went to prison.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

 

[rightwinger]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

I would tend to agree

Child molesters can't stop themselves. But here is Michael with a dozen or more kids in his sleeping quarters week after week and there is surprisingly little to report

Six years after his death, none of these now adults are coming forward to report what really went on. No rumors, no secondary witnesses of ilicit activities....nothing

If he was the molester you claim, we would be flooded with stories. You can't buy off everyone

The stories we do hear from those who were actually there are that the sleepovers were very innocent

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

I would tend to agree

Child molesters can't stop themselves. But here is Michael with a dozen or more kids in his sleeping quarters week after week and there is surprisingly little to report

Six years after his death, none of these now adults are coming forward to report what really went on. No rumors, no secondary witnesses of ilicit activities....nothing

If he was the molester you claim, we would be flooded with stories. You can't buy off everyone

The stories we do hear from those who were actually there are that the sleepovers were very innocent

Well there is where you are wrong, two are filing lawsuit now. That is what this is all about now, and how the court records of the TWENTY payoffs will be released.
And we have been flooded with stories, that is why I asked if you have lived under a rock for the past 10-15 years. By counting the 20 pay-offs and the unsuccessful allegations - I count 33 accusations in total, not counting the reports of people who quit. So I am confused why you say "there are no stories"?
And - RW, c'mon...$200,000,000 will shut a LOT of people up!. Especially when you consider that a number of the kids who frequented his home were underprivileged...aka...had lousy parents.
Have you ever seen some of the documentaries on child sex trade in the U.S.? Have you seen what some parents do to their children? Knowingly put them on the trade and others pretended they didn't know...even though they collected money for it.
You have to remember the parents of these kids were letting their young boys spend the night and whole weekends at his house despite all of the rumors back then. Would you let your own children spend the night there? After hearing numerous rumors??
You have to ask yourself just what kind of fucked up people were they...not to mentio the 20 parents (that we know of) that accepted the money signing gag rules in he process.

 

[rightwinger]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

I would tend to agree

Child molesters can't stop themselves. But here is Michael with a dozen or more kids in his sleeping quarters week after week and there is surprisingly little to report

Six years after his death, none of these now adults are coming forward to report what really went on. No rumors, no secondary witnesses of ilicit activities....nothing

If he was the molester you claim, we would be flooded with stories. You can't buy off everyone

The stories we do hear from those who were actually there are that the sleepovers were very innocent

Well there is where you are wrong, two are filing lawsuit now. That is what this is all about now, and how the court records of the TWENTY payoffs will be released.
And we have been flooded with stories, that is why I asked if you have lived under a rock for the past 10-15 years. By counting the 20 pay-offs and the unsuccessful allegations - I count 33 accusations in total, not counting the reports of people who quit. So I am confused why you say "there are no stories"?
And - RW, c'mon...$200,000,000 will shut a LOT of people up!. Especially when you consider that a number of the kids who frequented his home were underprivileged...aka...had lousy parents.
Have you ever seen some of the documentaries on child sex trade in the U.S.? Have you seen what some parents do to their children? Knowingly put them on the trade and others pretended they didn't know...even though they collected money for it.
You have to remember the parents of these kids were letting their young boys spend the night and whole weekends at his house despite all of the rumors back then. Would you let your own children spend the night there? After hearing numerous rumors??
You have to ask yourself just what kind of fucked up people were they...not to mentio the 20 parents (that we know of) that accepted the money signing gag rules in he process.

I don't doubt that there will be people coming out of the woodwork to exploit his estate. $200 million seems outrageous and is probably the fantasy of some lawyer

Accusations are easy. Especially after Jackson is long since dead

 

[S.J.]

People still think Mike did not molest young boys?

Of course. Whats odd is people still think claims silenced with hush money means he did molest boys. Seems to me at least one of the parents would love their child enough to make sure he went to prison.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. If they had cared, they wouldn't have allowed them to be sleep with a suspected pedophile in the first place.

 

[Asclepias]

People still think Mike did not molest young boys?

Of course. Whats odd is people still think claims silenced with hush money means he did molest boys. Seems to me at least one of the parents would love their child enough to make sure he went to prison.

Maybe they were like you and didn't care about their kids. If they had cared, they wouldn't have allowed them to be sleep with a suspected pedophile in the first place.

Is that what happened to you as a child? Where did the bad man touch you?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

And yet a jury of his peers found him not guilty on 14 charges. Maybe they were a lot like me, setting aside all the bullshit innuendo and focusing on the facts. I have to wonder how many innocent people are in jail because of people like you presiding in juries.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

And yet a jury of his peers found him not guilty on 14 charges. Maybe they were a lot like me, setting aside all the bullshit innuendo and focusing on the facts. I have to wonder how many innocent people are in jail because of people like you presiding in juries.

And yet he paid $200,000,000 over several years to at least 20 different parents in hush money.
Yes they found him innocent, because he paid off everyone else.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

And yet a jury of his peers found him not guilty on 14 charges. Maybe they were a lot like me, setting aside all the bullshit innuendo and focusing on the facts. I have to wonder how many innocent people are in jail because of people like you presiding in juries.

And yet he paid $200,000,000 over several years to at least 20 different parents in hush money.
Yes they found him innocent, because he paid off everyone else.

Did he pay off the jury, kookie?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

And yet a jury of his peers found him not guilty on 14 charges. Maybe they were a lot like me, setting aside all the bullshit innuendo and focusing on the facts. I have to wonder how many innocent people are in jail because of people like you presiding in juries.

And yet he paid $200,000,000 over several years to at least 20 different parents in hush money.
Yes they found him innocent, because he paid off everyone else.

Did he pay off the jury, kookie?

Read what I typed again...yeah...there you go...now let's put a little more thought into it rather than just trying to come up with a retort.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

There is no question that Michael Jackson was a strange bird. He lived in a world of his own and had a screwed up sexuality.

I don't think that means he was a child molester

I don't think his extreme eccentricities means he is a molester either. Never implied that I would believe that. It is the preponderance of other activities that makes it not just possible - but highly likely.
MJ lived in his own world, with his own version of what is right and wring. It is common for a child molester to believe it is not wrong. Especially with boys who are much more willing and even want it. This is the entire premise of NAMBLA.
When Michael explains his bizarre activities (the ones he has admitted to) with young boys he insisted that it was "sweet, loving, caressing...innocent". I wager that any NAMBLA member would say, and believe, the same thing - that it is mutually loving.
I am sorry, but when a 30 plus year old man sleeps with pre-teen and teenage boys, and gave them alcohol (to help them sleep he claimed) with pornography in the rooms, OPENLY and on camera held their hands and with the younger ones clinging to him with their heads resting against him etc. - IT IS BEYOND STRANGE.
And frankly, in my opinion, I question the motives of anyone who dismisses the allegations so easily especially when you have all of this - AND - him paying out close to a quarter Billion dollars in hush money....numerous housekeepers and other household staff quit saying they couldn't take the strange behaviors with children. As well as those who outright said they saw activity.
When you add all of these things up - it becomes very, very, very suspicious in the least. And to simply dismiss all of this so easily is equally strange.

And yet a jury of his peers found him not guilty on 14 charges. Maybe they were a lot like me, setting aside all the bullshit innuendo and focusing on the facts. I have to wonder how many innocent people are in jail because of people like you presiding in juries.

And yet he paid $200,000,000 over several years to at least 20 different parents in hush money.
Yes they found him innocent, because he paid off everyone else.

Did he pay off the jury, kookie?

Read what I typed again...yeah...there you go...now let's put a little more thought into it rather than just trying to come up with a retort.

Did
He
Pay
Off
The
Jury
Kookie
?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Did
He
Pay
Off
The
Jury
Kookie
?

Sigh...
Let me break it down for you...
In a court of law, there are 4 main parties..
Judge
Jury
Defendant
........and....can you guess?
What happens if you don't have viable plaintiffs with real cases? Because the real ones have been bought and paid for to the tune of nearly a quarter $billion dollars?