Misery Loves company.. Obama joins 6 other Presidents worst Misery!!!

I wonder if the historians, when they next rate the presidents, will take into consideration the determination of the Republicans, particularly in the Republican House, to make Obama fail? In 2010 after Obama had been in office for two years the historians rated the presidents, and rated Obama as America's fifteenth best president. Will Obama go up or down when historians rate the presidents again?
 
I wonder if the historians, when they next rate the presidents, will take into consideration the determination of the Republicans, particularly in the Republican House, to make Obama fail? In 2010 after Obama had been in office for two years the historians rated the presidents, and rated Obama as America's fifteenth best president. Will Obama go up or down when historians rate the presidents again?

Yes the Republicans made Obama lose guns in F&F, made the IRS target conservative groups and steal medical records, and made the NSA spy on Americans.

Retard.
 
Caveman and the USMB Wingnut Brigade is flocking to this latest Healthmyths fraudulent thread like flies to shit. No surprises.

F...king LIAR!!! Where is the FRAUD???
What is the Fraud???
YOU are saying the Federal U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment rates are a FRAUD?
YOU call this source a FRAUD?? Consumer Price Index (CPI)

The misery index was initiated by economist Arthur Okun, an adviser to President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's. It is simply the unemployment rate added to the inflation rate.

NOW HOW can you possibly call that A FRAUD???

US Misery Index

May 2013 1.4% annual inflation rate
May 2013 7.6% unemployment:
Added together makes misery index of 9 for May 2013.
Again.. compared to BUSH average for 8 years of 8.1
Obama his AVERAGE Misery Index is:10.6 which is 30% greater then Bush's average.

Because you're a fruad. Asshole. Calm the fuck down before you have an aneurism.

And you are an idiot because you haven't
LEARNED HOW THE LITTLE RED LINE HELPS YOU IN YOUR DUMB ASS SPELLING!
It's "fraud" NOT FRUAD!
It's "aneurysm" dumb shit NOT "aneurism"!

Obviously you can't even pay attention to a little red dotted line telling you misspelled a word,
so it's no wonder YOU missed the entire points regarding Bush, dot.com/9/11/hurricanes... WENT WAY WAY OVER YOUR head didn't IT???
 
The latest misery index under the Obama administration is 10.5, according to NPA Services Inc.
Obama is doing so well he is 11th worst , 14th worst and 23rd worst in the president's Misery index...
Oh by the way where is George Bush??? First appears 2008, 27th.. 9.65

Also Obama has the dubious distinction also of being the ONLY President in history whose administration has purposely created unemployment!
See below why 41% businesses not hiring!!!

  • 1 1980 20.76 Carter D
  • 2 1981 17.97 Reagan R
  • 3 1975 17.68 Ford R
  • 4 1979 17.07 Ford R
  • 5 1974 16.67 Nixon R
  • 6 1982 15.87 Reagan R
  • 7 1978 13.69 Carter D
  • 8 1977 13.55 Carter D
  • 9 1976 13.45 Carter D
  • 10 1983 12.82 Reagan R
  • 11 2011 12.11 Obama D
  • 12 1984 11.81 Reagan R
  • 13 1948 11.49 Truman D
  • 14 2010 11.27 Obama D
  • 15 1951 11.16 Eisenhower R

The highest one-year misery index under President Barack Obama was 12.11,
and Obama's average has been 10.78.

The highest under Bush was 9.65 in 2008
and his average was 8.11.

The misery index under President Jimmy Carter
averaged 16.26, with a high of 20.76 in 1980.

Then President Ronald Reagan took over the index was 17.97, his highest.
If any president had an excuse to blame the previous administration, Reagan did.
Instead the misery index declined by 9.61 points to 9.57 end of 1988.

US Misery Index - Custom Index by year

So why is unemployment so bad????


41% of Small Businesses Froze Hiring Over ObamaCare
We were startled because we know that employers were concerned about the Affordable Care Act and the effects it would have on their business, but we didn’t realize the extent they were concerned, or that the businesses were being proactive to make sure the effects of the ACA actually were minimized,” said attorney Steven Friedman of Littler Mendelson. His firm, which specializes in employment law, commissioned the Gallup poll.

“If the small businesses’ fears are reasonable, then it could mean that the small business sector grows slower than what economic conditions otherwise would indicate. And small businesses have been a growth engine in the economy,” Friedman told CNBC.

Forty-one percent of the businesses surveyed have frozen hiring because of the health-care law known as Obamacare. And almost one-fifth—19 percent— answered “yes” when asked if they had “reduced the number of employees you have in your business as a specific result of the Affordable Care Act.”
41% of Small Businesses Froze Hiring Over ObamaCare | FrontPage Magazine

James Earl Carter was President from January 20, 1977 – January 20, 1981

1 1980 20.76 Carter D
2 1981 17.97 Reagan R
3 1975 17.68 Ford R
4 1979 17.07 Ford R (Carter was POTUS in 79)
5 1974 16.67 Nixon R
6 1982 15.87 Reagan R
7 1978 13.69 Carter D
8 1977 13.55 Carter D
9 1976 13.45 Carter D (Ford was POTUS in 76)
10 1983 12.82 Reagan R
11 2011 12.11 Obama D
12 1984 11.81 Reagan R
13 1948 11.49 Truman D
14 2010 11.27 Obama D
15 1951 11.16 Eisenhower R
 
F...king LIAR!!! Where is the FRAUD???
What is the Fraud???
YOU are saying the Federal U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment rates are a FRAUD?
YOU call this source a FRAUD?? Consumer Price Index (CPI)

The misery index was initiated by economist Arthur Okun, an adviser to President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's. It is simply the unemployment rate added to the inflation rate.

NOW HOW can you possibly call that A FRAUD???

US Misery Index

May 2013 1.4% annual inflation rate
May 2013 7.6% unemployment:
Added together makes misery index of 9 for May 2013.
Again.. compared to BUSH average for 8 years of 8.1
Obama his AVERAGE Misery Index is:10.6 which is 30% greater then Bush's average.

Because you're a fruad. Asshole. Calm the fuck down before you have an aneurism.

And you are an idiot because you haven't
LEARNED HOW THE LITTLE RED LINE HELPS YOU IN YOUR DUMB ASS SPELLING!
It's "fraud" NOT FRUAD!
It's "aneurysm" dumb shit NOT "aneurism"!

Obviously you can't even pay attention to a little red dotted line telling you misspelled a word,
so it's no wonder YOU missed the entire points regarding Bush, dot.com/9/11/hurricanes... WENT WAY WAY OVER YOUR head didn't IT???

'Fruad' was a typo, 'aneurism' is still correct. You can spell it either way. And you're still a FRAUD, an asshole, and a lying sack of shit.
 
F...king LIAR!!! Where is the FRAUD???
What is the Fraud???
YOU are saying the Federal U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment rates are a FRAUD?
YOU call this source a FRAUD?? Consumer Price Index (CPI)

The misery index was initiated by economist Arthur Okun, an adviser to President Lyndon Johnson in the 1960's. It is simply the unemployment rate added to the inflation rate.

NOW HOW can you possibly call that A FRAUD???

US Misery Index

May 2013 1.4% annual inflation rate
May 2013 7.6% unemployment:
Added together makes misery index of 9 for May 2013.
Again.. compared to BUSH average for 8 years of 8.1
Obama his AVERAGE Misery Index is:10.6 which is 30% greater then Bush's average.

Because you're a fruad. Asshole. Calm the fuck down before you have an aneurism.
Well, that masterfully refutes his citations.

Oh, wait...no, it doesn't. It just makes you look like a little bitch.

Oh wait, yes it does. Healthmyths is a fraudulent sack of shit. And you're a whiny little bitch. Now go wipe your ass, boy.
 
Because you're a fruad. Asshole. Calm the fuck down before you have an aneurism.
Well, that masterfully refutes his citations.

Oh, wait...no, it doesn't. It just makes you look like a little bitch.

Oh wait, yes it does.
Oh, okay. It refutes it because you SAY it does.

How's that working out for ya, Petunia?

Show of hands -- anyone convinced by Petunia's refutation?

Lessee -- carry the 4 -- allow for windage --

I count "zero". You can count that high, can't you? Just ask if you need help. There's no shame in not knowing how...actually, yes, there's a great deal of shame in not knowing how to count to zero. Massive, massive, orbit-of-Jupiter sized shame.
Healthmyths is a fraudulent sack of shit.
So you keep saying. And so you keep not proving.

Oh, if ONLY he'd agree with you that President Obama is the bestest President in the history of presidenting! :(
And you're a whiny little bitch.
Ahhh, the ol' "No, YOU!!" ploy. Devastating. You WOUND me, sir.
Now go wipe your ass, boy.
No, you may NOT watch me use the bathroom. What the hell's the matter with you, you sick nasty freak?! :mad:
 
Healthmyths, the Bush apologist/revisionist historian strikes out yet again. Dang!

BUT YOU HAVE NOT refuted ANY OF THE FACTS Dummy!!!
HOW in the hell would you REVISE the dot.com BUST?? IT HAPPENED Started under Clinton! That fairy dust Surplus poof! As all those phantom profits that supposedly paid TAXES under Clinton GONE!!!!

Then how in the hell do you EXPLAIN to 3,000 people, in NYC and the Pentagon NOTHING happened on 9/11/01???
Trillions in lost businesses revenues assets, GONE! JOBS GONE!
THAT all never happened???

SO again please explain I was totally wrong about the Worst hurricane SEASONS not one hurricane but SEASONS of hurricanes???
Trillions in lost revenues, destroyed businesses, 1,000s of deaths... not in one but SEVERAL hurricanes over several years!

AND YOU THINK I made that up???

PLEASE explain how the GDP grew 16% from 2001 to 2008?
Explain the fact that Federal Revenues were the highest in history... especially after the TAX CUTS that triggered business growth?

BUT DORKS like you don't read... anything that takes more then 30 seconds cause your attention span is shorter then a chimp looking for a banana! Dorks like you got us the BIGGEST dork Obama who thrills at putting EVIL businesses and profit making companies out of business!

AND YOU as stupid as Obama think that is smart!
TELL ME dork... WHERE does nearly 90% of FEDERAL REvenue come from dumb sh...T?
NOT from people working for the Federal government, or from NON-PROFITS!!
But of course idiots like you NEVER NEVER look beyond your growing Pinocchio nose!

9/11 and some hurricanes were nothing compared to the real estate bubble bursting. Obama inherited an economy in ruins.
 
Since the latest misery index is 8.96,

not 10.5 as the OP claims,

this is just one more healthmyths troll thread based on an outright lie.

US Misery Index

According to this web site Obama's average is 10.5. Sure seems like Barrrack wants to be just like Nixon.

US Misery Index - Index by President

President

Richard M Nixon 1969-01 - 1974-07 7.80 17.01 9.21 10.57
James E Carter, Jr. 1977-01 - 1980-12 12.72 19.72 7.00 16.26
Dwight D Eisenhower 1953-01 - 1960-12 3.28 7.96 4.68 6.26
Barack H Obama 2009-01 - 2013-05 7.83 8.96 1.13 10.48
Lyndon B Johnson 1963-11 - 1968-12 7.02 8.12 1.10 6.77
George H.W. Bush 1989-01 - 1992-12 10.07 10.30 0.23 10.68
George W Bush 2001-01 - 2008-12 7.93 7.39 -0.54 8.11
John F Kennedy 1961-01 - 1963-10 8.31 6.82 -1.49 7.14
William J Clinton 1993-01 - 2000-12 10.56 7.29 -3.27 7.80
Gerald R Ford 1974-08 - 1976-12 16.36 12.66 -3.70 16.00
Ronald W Reagan 1981-01 - 1988-12 19.33 9.72 -9.61 12.19
Harry S Truman 1948-01 - 1952-12 13.63 3.45 -10.18 7.88

That link tells us that the worst president in the last 30 years was Reagan,

and the best was Bill Clinton.

Fair enough.
 
Since the latest misery index is 8.96,

not 10.5 as the OP claims,

this is just one more healthmyths troll thread based on an outright lie.

US Misery Index

According to this web site Obama's average is 10.5. Sure seems like Barrrack wants to be just like Nixon.

US Misery Index - Index by President

President

Richard M Nixon 1969-01 - 1974-07 7.80 17.01 9.21 10.57
James E Carter, Jr. 1977-01 - 1980-12 12.72 19.72 7.00 16.26
Dwight D Eisenhower 1953-01 - 1960-12 3.28 7.96 4.68 6.26
Barack H Obama 2009-01 - 2013-05 7.83 8.96 1.13 10.48
Lyndon B Johnson 1963-11 - 1968-12 7.02 8.12 1.10 6.77
George H.W. Bush 1989-01 - 1992-12 10.07 10.30 0.23 10.68
George W Bush 2001-01 - 2008-12 7.93 7.39 -0.54 8.11
John F Kennedy 1961-01 - 1963-10 8.31 6.82 -1.49 7.14
William J Clinton 1993-01 - 2000-12 10.56 7.29 -3.27 7.80
Gerald R Ford 1974-08 - 1976-12 16.36 12.66 -3.70 16.00
Ronald W Reagan 1981-01 - 1988-12 19.33 9.72 -9.61 12.19
Harry S Truman 1948-01 - 1952-12 13.63 3.45 -10.18 7.88

The OP claimed that the latest Obama misery index is 10.5. It's not. It's 8.96.
 
9/11 and some hurricanes were nothing compared to the real estate bubble bursting. Obama inherited an economy in ruins.

Still blaming Bush for the current state of the Obama economy? This President's policies are also very much to blame for the job market under his term, to include submerging small business in further costly government regulations. It's also convenient, that this administration has chosen to DELAY the employer mandate of Obamacare rather than allow its burden onto small business to reveal this new law's effects on the economy.

Obama's Government Regulations
... at year-end 2012, overall rules in the pipeline (active, completed, and long-term) affecting small business according to federal agencies stand at 854.
In fact, the number of rules with small-business impacts under Obama since 2010 has regularly exceeded 800. The last time rules in this category exceeded 800 was back in 2003.

Of all of the 2012 Unified Agenda’s 854 rules affecting small business by department, agency, and commission. Six of them—the Departments of Commerce, Health and Human Services; Agriculture, Transportation; plus the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Environmental Protection Agency—account for 526, or 62 percent.

Small Business Regulations Surge Under Obama - Forbes

A table of government regulations effecting small business listed below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiYyxLrbT19_dDJfSUo1SHI1ckJtMEdlUHRMZnVuSWc&output=html
 
Healthmyths, the Bush apologist/revisionist historian strikes out yet again. Dang!

truth hurts about your hero Obama doesn't it?
oh well, deal with it...more people agree with this than disagree..must suck for Obamabots
 
9/11 and some hurricanes were nothing compared to the real estate bubble bursting. Obama inherited an economy in ruins.

Still blaming Bush for the current state of the Obama economy? This President's policies are also very much to blame for the job market under his term, to include submerging small business in further costly government regulations. It's also convenient, that this administration has chosen to DELAY the employer mandate of Obamacare rather than allow its burden onto small business to reveal this new law's effects on the economy.

Obama's Government Regulations
... at year-end 2012, overall rules in the pipeline (active, completed, and long-term) affecting small business according to federal agencies stand at 854.
In fact, the number of rules with small-business impacts under Obama since 2010 has regularly exceeded 800. The last time rules in this category exceeded 800 was back in 2003.

Of all of the 2012 Unified Agenda’s 854 rules affecting small business by department, agency, and commission. Six of them—the Departments of Commerce, Health and Human Services; Agriculture, Transportation; plus the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Environmental Protection Agency—account for 526, or 62 percent.

Small Business Regulations Surge Under Obama - Forbes

A table of government regulations effecting small business listed below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiYyxLrbT19_dDJfSUo1SHI1ckJtMEdlUHRMZnVuSWc&output=html

You're an idiot.

The single biggest drag on the employment numbers has been the massive cutbacks in government jobs.
 
9/11 and some hurricanes were nothing compared to the real estate bubble bursting. Obama inherited an economy in ruins.

Still blaming Bush for the current state of the Obama economy? This President's policies are also very much to blame for the job market under his term, to include submerging small business in further costly government regulations. It's also convenient, that this administration has chosen to DELAY the employer mandate of Obamacare rather than allow its burden onto small business to reveal this new law's effects on the economy.

Obama's Government Regulations
... at year-end 2012, overall rules in the pipeline (active, completed, and long-term) affecting small business according to federal agencies stand at 854.
In fact, the number of rules with small-business impacts under Obama since 2010 has regularly exceeded 800. The last time rules in this category exceeded 800 was back in 2003.

Of all of the 2012 Unified Agenda’s 854 rules affecting small business by department, agency, and commission. Six of them—the Departments of Commerce, Health and Human Services; Agriculture, Transportation; plus the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Environmental Protection Agency—account for 526, or 62 percent.

Small Business Regulations Surge Under Obama - Forbes

A table of government regulations effecting small business listed below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiYyxLrbT19_dDJfSUo1SHI1ckJtMEdlUHRMZnVuSWc&output=html

You're an idiot.

The single biggest drag on the employment numbers has been the massive cutbacks in government jobs.

lol, THE MASSIVE cutbacks in GUBERMENT JOBS..YEAH RIGHT
.and you wouldn't see that as good for the people in this country either..
 
9/11 and some hurricanes were nothing compared to the real estate bubble bursting. Obama inherited an economy in ruins.

Still blaming Bush for the current state of the Obama economy? This President's policies are also very much to blame for the job market under his term, to include submerging small business in further costly government regulations. It's also convenient, that this administration has chosen to DELAY the employer mandate of Obamacare rather than allow its burden onto small business to reveal this new law's effects on the economy.

Obama's Government Regulations
... at year-end 2012, overall rules in the pipeline (active, completed, and long-term) affecting small business according to federal agencies stand at 854.
In fact, the number of rules with small-business impacts under Obama since 2010 has regularly exceeded 800. The last time rules in this category exceeded 800 was back in 2003.

Of all of the 2012 Unified Agenda’s 854 rules affecting small business by department, agency, and commission. Six of them—the Departments of Commerce, Health and Human Services; Agriculture, Transportation; plus the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and the Environmental Protection Agency—account for 526, or 62 percent.

Small Business Regulations Surge Under Obama - Forbes

A table of government regulations effecting small business listed below:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiYyxLrbT19_dDJfSUo1SHI1ckJtMEdlUHRMZnVuSWc&output=html

You're an idiot.

The single biggest drag on the employment numbers has been the massive cutbacks in government jobs.

OK let's grant your argument.. "cut back in government jobs drag on numbers..."!

Are you saying there should be more government jobs?

If so where does the money come to pay the salaries and wages of these government jobs?

Do you agree taxes revenues pay the salaries/wages of government jobs?

Where will the tax revenue come from if MORE People were working for the government?
 
I'm going to laugh my ass off when Ocommie care destroys the rest of this shit nation. I'm sure that will be Bush's fault too.
 
Misery Loves company.. Obama joins 6 other Presidents worst Misery!!!

According to a number of polls Obama has been ranked as the 14th most successful president (tied with Lyndon Johnson), Carter is ranked 27th and George Bush at 34th (the lowest since Warren Harding).

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A number of polls?

Well, yes, 2 is a number. :lol:

From your link:
The surveys have been criticized for the way they have been organized.[21] At times, the surveys have had low responses.[21] The issue of the validity of the rankings has been of special interest to historians and political scientists, who have tried to specify the relative importance of personality, leadership, issues and partisanship. It has also been argued that those surveyed have tended to select their choices from personal preference rather than from a neutral perspective.
In other words: Worthless, from an historical point of view.
 
Since the latest misery index is 8.96,

not 10.5 as the OP claims,

this is just one more healthmyths troll thread based on an outright lie.

US Misery Index

According to this web site Obama's average is 10.5. Sure seems like Barrrack wants to be just like Nixon.

US Misery Index - Index by President

President

Richard M Nixon 1969-01 - 1974-07 7.80 17.01 9.21 10.57
James E Carter, Jr. 1977-01 - 1980-12 12.72 19.72 7.00 16.26
Dwight D Eisenhower 1953-01 - 1960-12 3.28 7.96 4.68 6.26
Barack H Obama 2009-01 - 2013-05 7.83 8.96 1.13 10.48
Lyndon B Johnson 1963-11 - 1968-12 7.02 8.12 1.10 6.77
George H.W. Bush 1989-01 - 1992-12 10.07 10.30 0.23 10.68
George W Bush 2001-01 - 2008-12 7.93 7.39 -0.54 8.11
John F Kennedy 1961-01 - 1963-10 8.31 6.82 -1.49 7.14
William J Clinton 1993-01 - 2000-12 10.56 7.29 -3.27 7.80
Gerald R Ford 1974-08 - 1976-12 16.36 12.66 -3.70 16.00
Ronald W Reagan 1981-01 - 1988-12 19.33 9.72 -9.61 12.19
Harry S Truman 1948-01 - 1952-12 13.63 3.45 -10.18 7.88

That link tells us that the worst president in the last 30 years was Reagan,

and the best was Bill Clinton.

Fair enough.

Oh, Oh!
 
Misery Loves company.. Obama joins 6 other Presidents worst Misery!!!

According to a number of polls Obama has been ranked as the 14th most successful president (tied with Lyndon Johnson), Carter is ranked 27th and George Bush at 34th (the lowest since Warren Harding).

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A number of polls?

Well, yes, 2 is a number. :lol:

From your link:
The surveys have been criticized for the way they have been organized.[21] At times, the surveys have had low responses.[21] The issue of the validity of the rankings has been of special interest to historians and political scientists, who have tried to specify the relative importance of personality, leadership, issues and partisanship. It has also been argued that those surveyed have tended to select their choices from personal preference rather than from a neutral perspective.
In other words: Worthless, from an historical point of view.

Well, what if they polled the historians? In 1948 Schlesinger, a famous historian himself, asked historians to rate the presidents. Since that time other polls of historians, newspapers, people, and so forth have taken place. For me, the best and most accurate are the historians, however, and the latest historian poll is the Sienna taken in 2010.
The problem with asking ordinary citizens to rate the presidents is that most can name about ten presidents, and for them to rate President Polk is a waste.

Of course, if the historians find different from some posters they are quickly labeled by the posters as communist.
 

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