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This bugs people who don't get food stamps the things people on food stamps buy. Which is why I would prefer cash benifits (social security, welfare) be larger and get rid of food stamps.
If you are getting money from your neighbor, the nieghbor gets a say on how you spend it. I personaly would prefer food stamps only buy Kosher. It is mostly healthy and mostly, with Some exceptions, vegitarian.
However, I also think you shouldn't expose people on benifits to odium, which is what food stamps do. What is wrong with poor people enjoying a beer? Food stamps allow people who paid for it to grumble about how you spent it. It is the worst of all possible worlds. I know when I see the things people buy on food stamps I usually go "what in the world are buying on MY dime!" It is human nature.
Again... My proposal is to return to a system like we had before food stamps. We provided people with surplus food staples which we have an abundance of every year. The point is, if you are truly "in need" you should have to endure some sacrifices. No one is going to starve on government cheese and peanut butter and we can do that a LOT more efficiently than what we're doing now.
Yep. Instead of increasing SNAP benefits. Teach the folks in the program how to budget meals on what they are currently getting. Make budgeting classes mandatory to get benefits. Just like they do for daycare aid and childcare classes.
I'm not really interested in creating yet another 'cottage industry' capitalizing on tax dollars. If people want to learn to budget, listen to Dave Ramsey. It's not my problem if you've reached adulthood and haven't learned to budget. My proposal is to take away the damn credit cards and replace those with a basket of fresh produce and surplus foods we have an abundance of.
I believe we still do in some cases. I know a few seniors that pick up government issue meat,cereal, bread, cheese, beans,rice and milk once a month.
My point is put conditions on benefits. Time limits... manditory budgeting classes... Proof of employment,going to school...job applications and interviews etc.
Make them work for it.
I believe we still do in some cases. I know a few seniors that pick up government issue meat,cereal, bread, cheese, beans,rice and milk once a month.
My point is put conditions on benefits. Time limits... manditory budgeting classes... Proof of employment,going to school...job applications and interviews etc.
Make them work for it.
Well, food stamps or SNAP is currently going to a LOT of people, not all of them can work or go to school. Some are getting other benefits and some are not, some are retired and some are not. Some people on food stamps might have college degrees in finance... it might not be a matter of not knowing how to budget... Cookie-cutter ideas aren't ever going to be effective.
Mandatory [fill in the blank] classes are NOT useful for anything. By their very nature, some people will automatically reject anything that is mandatory. Oh, you want to MAKE me learn it? Watch and see how stupid I can be! Offer classes for people who WANT to learn? Sure! I have no problem with that, but I don't think that's our problem here.
We have a serious budget problem. We've got to find a way to cut our spending. We can't cut our spending by implementing mandatory budget classes... that just costs us MORE money and all it does is adds another hoop to jump through for people who just need food.
We already employ the case workers. Have them give monthly mandatory seminars on a Saturday. They already do it for unemployment and folks receiving daycare aid. Use the same facility. Make them show they are making an effort to get off SNAP.
We already employ the case workers. Have them give monthly mandatory seminars on a Saturday. They already do it for unemployment and folks receiving daycare aid. Use the same facility. Make them show they are making an effort to get off SNAP.
Why should I work my butt off so they can buy chips & soda?When I see what is in the market basket of folks getting food stamps, works for me. Unhealthy foods, expensive foods.Ayup.. if we are gonna help people eat we should do so by giving them beans, rice, flour, eggs, milk, salt, sugar, potatoes, kale, lettuce, carrots, oranges... not cash.This bugs people who don't get food stamps the things people on food stamps buy. Which is why I would prefer cash benifits (social security, welfare) be larger and get rid of food stamps.
If you are getting money from your neighbor, the nieghbor gets a say on how you spend it. I personaly would prefer food stamps only buy Kosher. It is mostly healthy and mostly, with Some exceptions, vegitarian.
However, I also think you shouldn't expose people on benifits to odium, which is what food stamps do. What is wrong with poor people enjoying a beer? Food stamps allow people who paid for it to grumble about how you spent it. It is the worst of all possible worlds. I know when I see the things people buy on food stamps I usually go "what in the world are buying on MY dime!" It is human nature.
Again... My proposal is to return to a system like we had before food stamps. We provided people with surplus food staples which we have an abundance of every year. The point is, if you are truly "in need" you should have to endure some sacrifices. No one is going to starve on government cheese and peanut butter and we can do that a LOT more efficiently than what we're doing now.
I don't hold with embarrasing folks. That is why I would prefer a system where poor folks got more cash in their stipend. Humilation does not work for me.
Let them get their unhealthy trashy food in peace
I have no choice my government forces me to fund this hand-out program. My income goes to this program, thus I'm paying for it. I would personally be less upset about my income being stolen and redistributed if we were feeding people who are starving if there is verification that they will in fact starve, that there are no charities available to feed them. But then I'd like to make sure it's food that makes more sense.Why should I work my butt off so they can buy chips & soda?When I see what is in the market basket of folks getting food stamps, works for me. Unhealthy foods, expensive foods.Ayup.. if we are gonna help people eat we should do so by giving them beans, rice, flour, eggs, milk, salt, sugar, potatoes, kale, lettuce, carrots, oranges... not cash.This bugs people who don't get food stamps the things people on food stamps buy. Which is why I would prefer cash benifits (social security, welfare) be larger and get rid of food stamps.
If you are getting money from your neighbor, the nieghbor gets a say on how you spend it. I personaly would prefer food stamps only buy Kosher. It is mostly healthy and mostly, with Some exceptions, vegitarian.
However, I also think you shouldn't expose people on benifits to odium, which is what food stamps do. What is wrong with poor people enjoying a beer? Food stamps allow people who paid for it to grumble about how you spent it. It is the worst of all possible worlds. I know when I see the things people buy on food stamps I usually go "what in the world are buying on MY dime!" It is human nature.
Again... My proposal is to return to a system like we had before food stamps. We provided people with surplus food staples which we have an abundance of every year. The point is, if you are truly "in need" you should have to endure some sacrifices. No one is going to starve on government cheese and peanut butter and we can do that a LOT more efficiently than what we're doing now.
I don't hold with embarrasing folks. That is why I would prefer a system where poor folks got more cash in their stipend. Humilation does not work for me.
Let them get their unhealthy trashy food in peace
Why should you work your butt off so they can buy anything? You lose me at the "paying for other people" line. I'm not going to be okay with it just because they buy things I approve of.
most people on food stamps are smart enough to know where the bargains are in their region and are not cheating or abusing the system.....
Shameful way to humiliate those in need, that's all this is.
Republicans will say people on food stamps in Missouri are black. But only about 11% of the state is black. And yet about 16% get food stamps. And it's not likely that every black in Missouri get food stamps. Which of course would mean that plenty of whites get food stamps. And you know most whites in Missouri are Republican. So it's very likely that a lot of Republicans in Missouri get food stamps.That story fit a longtime conservative suspicion that poor people use food stamps to purchase luxury items. Now, a Republican state lawmaker in Missouri is pushing for legislation that would stop people like Greenslate and severely limit what food stamp recipients can buy. The bill being proposed would ban the purchase with food stamps of "cookies, chips, energy drinks, soft drinks, seafood or steak."
Missouri Republicans are trying to ban food stamp recipients from buying steak and seafood - The Washington Post
Banning food stamps for thugs who spend it on luxury items, or they're trying to destroy welfare system?
I think that the only way to stop these people to spend our tax money on unnecessary items - is to create list of goods they can buy! And what do you think guys?
No it isn't....Its not a steak cut...It is either the "round" ( which is from the hind quarter) or "chuck" which comes from the upper of the front shoulder.It's ground steak...hamburger meat is fine...Why not?So no hamburger either?Food stamps are suppose to be for poor people who cannot afford basic food items. If you can waste a majority of your food stamps on steak. You don't need them. If you think it's not fair that you can't buy steaks with your food stamps. Then get a job.
Our politicians, and they know who they are, have in the name of getting reelected, made not working and in some cases, poverty, comfortable.Shameful way to humiliate those in need, that's all this is.
I don't want to humiliate anyone. I read a good quote a while back, can't recall who it was from... "Sometimes shame is a luxury you can't afford." I think that is true. When you are truly in distress and need help, there is no shame, there is no humiliation.
I have no problem helping people in need, but I also think many of our programs fail to help. They enable a person to be dependent and not really give a shit. They don't motivate people to pick themselves up and do better. That's not 'helping' them any at all.
Republicans will say people on food stamps in Missouri are black. But only about 11% of the state is black. And yet about 16% get food stamps. And it's not likely that every black in Missouri get food stamps. Which of course would mean that plenty of whites get food stamps. And you know most whites in Missouri are Republican. So it's very likely that a lot of Republicans in Missouri get food stamps.
I kind of like when Republicans screw over their base. Especially with a presidential election coming up. Makes you wonder who they will vote for.
Voting to steal my income for redistribution does not make it right. It's still stealing. I don't steal from others and I expect the same from others through income redistribution and I expect the same from others.Oh, HOGWASH......no one's money is stolen, this is a democratic Republic, our representatives voted for such RKM.....
Do unto others as you want to be done to yourself.....
So, if I were temporarily in need of food stamps, I would not want you to micro manage what I felt was necessary....cutting out meat, is simply not right....
If it was cutting out beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes etc, I personally would have no objection to such....it would make sense to me, not having the ability to buy those type of things with food stamps, but to cut out steak is utterly ridiculous and just simply envy of the unrightous imo.
And where I live, to cut out lobster, when it is the same price per pound as ground beef is also ridiculous.... most people on food stamps are smart enough to know where the bargains are in their region and are not cheating or abusing the system.....
The handful of abusers should not dictate changes in the law, of good, but temporarily hard up, citizens imo.
So if we hand out good food to people who are starving we are humiliating them? The only way to do it right is to deposit cash in their bank accounts from DC? lolShameful way to humiliate those in need, that's all this is.
I have no choice my government forces me to fund this hand-out program. My income goes to this program, thus I'm paying for it. I would personally be less upset about my income being stolen and redistributed if we were feeding people who are starving if there is verification that they will in fact starve, that there are no charities available to feed them. But then I'd like to make sure it's food that makes more sense.Why should I work my butt off so they can buy chips & soda?When I see what is in the market basket of folks getting food stamps, works for me. Unhealthy foods, expensive foods.Ayup.. if we are gonna help people eat we should do so by giving them beans, rice, flour, eggs, milk, salt, sugar, potatoes, kale, lettuce, carrots, oranges... not cash.Again... My proposal is to return to a system like we had before food stamps. We provided people with surplus food staples which we have an abundance of every year. The point is, if you are truly "in need" you should have to endure some sacrifices. No one is going to starve on government cheese and peanut butter and we can do that a LOT more efficiently than what we're doing now.
I don't hold with embarrasing folks. That is why I would prefer a system where poor folks got more cash in their stipend. Humilation does not work for me.
Let them get their unhealthy trashy food in peace
Why should you work your butt off so they can buy anything? You lose me at the "paying for other people" line. I'm not going to be okay with it just because they buy things I approve of.
most people on food stamps are smart enough to know where the bargains are in their region and are not cheating or abusing the system.....
Why would they care about bargains? It's not like they are spending money they earned. They get no real benefit out of bargain shopping. And no, MOST people aren't cheating or abusing the system but enough of them ARE.
I was recently in a store behind a woman who was trying to buy a 5lb bag of dog food with her EBT... the clerk told her she couldn't, so she goes back in the store and returns with a 5lb package of ground beef instead. Is it right that you and I are feeding a poor woman's dog ground beef?
Another time, I was helping out a friend who has a mom and pop convenience store... they accept EBT... A middle age man who looked to be very healthy, comes in with about 5 kids... they get a buggy and hit the candy isle.. loaded up on junk and candy... ice cream... frozen pizza was the most "nutritious" food idem they purchased... It's was over $100 of pure junk. All of it paid for with Food Stamps. When you are out making these kinds of purchases, you're not in distress wondering where you next meal is coming from.
So if we hand out good food to people who are starving we are humiliating them? The only way to do it right is to deposit cash in their bank accounts from DC? lolShameful way to humiliate those in need, that's all this is.
