Mistakes the admin has already made in handling the virus.

18,000 people in the US have died this year from the Flu. Hmmmm.

the flu has been around for months - coronavirus hasn't.

we have a flu vaccine even though they are never 100%.

we have no vaccine for the coronavirus & it will still take months for clinical trials etc when they think they have developed one.


Prove Covid 19 hasn't been around for months, since no one was aware of it, no one was tested for it. I've seen interviews with doctors that said it has likely been around for months, but most people don't present with acute symptoms.

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correction: hasn't been around showing symptoms for months NOR do we have a 'coronavirus' season ...


Just saw a news conference with WA officials, they claim the virus has been going around there for at least 6 weeks. That's about the time the world was becoming aware of it.

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& it has already 'mutated' from what they think might be the original virus. there is also a possibility that a dog (outside the US ) might have contracted it.
How did Trump do that?
 
& it has already 'mutated' from what they think might be the original virus. there is also a possibility that a dog (outside the US ) might have contracted it.


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Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows
Published Tue, Feb 4 20203:06 PM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 5 20202:32 AM EST
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.@BerkeleyJr
  • The so-called R naught of the disease, a mathematical equation that shows how many people will get sick from each infected person, is around 2.2.
  • World health officials caution that it may take months before the true R naught is known as more coronavirus cases come to light.
  • China's health minister, Ma Xiaowei, recently told reporters there is evidence it's already mutated into a stronger variation that is able to spread more easily among humans.
Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows


A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm
Published Fri, Feb 28 202012:07 PM ESTUpdated Sat, Feb 29 20206:12 AM EST
Noah Higgins-Dunn

  • WHO confirmed that a dog in Hong Kong has tested "weakly positive" for COVID-19.
  • Hong Kong scientists aren't sure if the dog is actually infected or if it picked up the virus from a contaminated surface.
  • Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," Hong Kong agriculture


The dog reportedly belongs to a 60-year-old woman who developed symptoms on Feb. 12 and later tested positive, according to The Wall Street Journal. Hong Kong's Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said the dog doesn't have any symptoms. Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," it said in a statement Friday. The dog is under quarantine at a facility at a port in Hong Kong and will be returned to the owner once it tests negative for the virus, according to the agency.officials said.

A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm


The Chinese claim it started in animals so an animal "possibly" being infected wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. But from what I read they aren't sure if the dog is really infected. Also there is nothing in your article about a mutation as you claimed, you got anything on that?

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i said that a dog MAY have been infected & the chinese say it has mutated & a couple doctors said it as well while being interviewed - that the virus right now is slightly different than what was showing up as positive back in january....
exactly. Its not that a dog might be a carrier, and there's no certainty that if it did carry the virus that it could infect humans. But it might indicate the virus is mutating. And that might be bad. Or not. My dog died in July of old age. And my cat too but last weekend.

all's good. (- I may get another dog though. No cats for it though.

i'm sorry to hear about your pets. i had a kitty live to be 16 - it was real hard when she passed.
 
the flu has been around for months - coronavirus hasn't.

we have a flu vaccine even though they are never 100%.

we have no vaccine for the coronavirus & it will still take months for clinical trials etc when they think they have developed one.


Prove Covid 19 hasn't been around for months, since no one was aware of it, no one was tested for it. I've seen interviews with doctors that said it has likely been around for months, but most people don't present with acute symptoms.

.

correction: hasn't been around showing symptoms for months NOR do we have a 'coronavirus' season ...


Just saw a news conference with WA officials, they claim the virus has been going around there for at least 6 weeks. That's about the time the world was becoming aware of it.

.

& it has already 'mutated' from what they think might be the original virus. there is also a possibility that a dog (outside the US ) might have contracted it.
How did Trump do that?

you tell me.
 

Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows
Published Tue, Feb 4 20203:06 PM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 5 20202:32 AM EST
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.@BerkeleyJr
  • The so-called R naught of the disease, a mathematical equation that shows how many people will get sick from each infected person, is around 2.2.
  • World health officials caution that it may take months before the true R naught is known as more coronavirus cases come to light.
  • China's health minister, Ma Xiaowei, recently told reporters there is evidence it's already mutated into a stronger variation that is able to spread more easily among humans.
Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows


A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm
Published Fri, Feb 28 202012:07 PM ESTUpdated Sat, Feb 29 20206:12 AM EST
Noah Higgins-Dunn

  • WHO confirmed that a dog in Hong Kong has tested "weakly positive" for COVID-19.
  • Hong Kong scientists aren't sure if the dog is actually infected or if it picked up the virus from a contaminated surface.
  • Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," Hong Kong agriculture


The dog reportedly belongs to a 60-year-old woman who developed symptoms on Feb. 12 and later tested positive, according to The Wall Street Journal. Hong Kong's Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said the dog doesn't have any symptoms. Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," it said in a statement Friday. The dog is under quarantine at a facility at a port in Hong Kong and will be returned to the owner once it tests negative for the virus, according to the agency.officials said.

A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm


The Chinese claim it started in animals so an animal "possibly" being infected wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. But from what I read they aren't sure if the dog is really infected. Also there is nothing in your article about a mutation as you claimed, you got anything on that?

.

i said that a dog MAY have been infected & the chinese say it has mutated & a couple doctors said it as well while being interviewed - that the virus right now is slightly different than what was showing up as positive back in january....
exactly. Its not that a dog might be a carrier, and there's no certainty that if it did carry the virus that it could infect humans. But it might indicate the virus is mutating. And that might be bad. Or not. My dog died in July of old age. And my cat too but last weekend.

all's good. (- I may get another dog though. No cats for it though.

i'm sorry to hear about your pets. i had a kitty live to be 16 - it was real hard when she passed.

thanks. They were both really ratty. It was a blessing they went peacefully. And honestly the dog was a sob even when young. My kid picked him out as a puppy.

I'm looking forward to strating up jogging again now that I don't have to walk him.

ps I may get another dog. I jogged with Ben for about 15 years. He was a good dog.
 
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So Barry waited until 20,000 Americans were infected and 1,000 Americans were dead from H1N1...and Trump acted within 30 days.....and snowflakes are attempting to claim THIS President has acted poorly / slowly?

....proving once again 'YTDS' is still more dangerous than Corona Virus at this point.
 
Prove Covid 19 hasn't been around for months, since no one was aware of it, no one was tested for it. I've seen interviews with doctors that said it has likely been around for months, but most people don't present with acute symptoms.

.

correction: hasn't been around showing symptoms for months NOR do we have a 'coronavirus' season ...


Just saw a news conference with WA officials, they claim the virus has been going around there for at least 6 weeks. That's about the time the world was becoming aware of it.

.

& it has already 'mutated' from what they think might be the original virus. there is also a possibility that a dog (outside the US ) might have contracted it.
How did Trump do that?

you tell me.
By beating Hillary like a drum.:banana:
 
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Just saw a news conference with WA officials, they claim the virus has been going around there for at least 6 weeks. That's about the time the world was becoming aware of it.

.

& it has already 'mutated' from what they think might be the original virus. there is also a possibility that a dog (outside the US ) might have contracted it.


:link::link::link:

Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows
Published Tue, Feb 4 20203:06 PM ESTUpdated Wed, Feb 5 20202:32 AM EST
Berkeley Lovelace Jr.@BerkeleyJr
  • The so-called R naught of the disease, a mathematical equation that shows how many people will get sick from each infected person, is around 2.2.
  • World health officials caution that it may take months before the true R naught is known as more coronavirus cases come to light.
  • China's health minister, Ma Xiaowei, recently told reporters there is evidence it's already mutated into a stronger variation that is able to spread more easily among humans.
Researchers say the coronavirus may be more contagious than current data shows


A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm
Published Fri, Feb 28 202012:07 PM ESTUpdated Sat, Feb 29 20206:12 AM EST
Noah Higgins-Dunn

  • WHO confirmed that a dog in Hong Kong has tested "weakly positive" for COVID-19.
  • Hong Kong scientists aren't sure if the dog is actually infected or if it picked up the virus from a contaminated surface.
  • Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," Hong Kong agriculture


The dog reportedly belongs to a 60-year-old woman who developed symptoms on Feb. 12 and later tested positive, according to The Wall Street Journal. Hong Kong's Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said the dog doesn't have any symptoms. Swabs of its nasal and oral cavities tested "weak positive," it said in a statement Friday. The dog is under quarantine at a facility at a port in Hong Kong and will be returned to the owner once it tests negative for the virus, according to the agency.officials said.

A dog in Hong Kong tests positive for the coronavirus, WHO officials confirm


The Chinese claim it started in animals so an animal "possibly" being infected wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. But from what I read they aren't sure if the dog is really infected. Also there is nothing in your article about a mutation as you claimed, you got anything on that?

.

i said that a dog MAY have been infected & the chinese say it has mutated & a couple doctors said it as well while being interviewed on tv - that the virus right now is slightly different than what was showing up as positive back in january.... i have no reason to disbelieve them.


Depends on what channel they're on. I haven't seen anything about mutations even when local doctors are interviewed on local channels.

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Does anyone seriously trust this Administration to deal with this crisis in anything but as political manner?
Our wonderful Pres.Trump has the situation totally under control.

We are a blessed nation to have him as our ruler. ... :thup:

Trump is no ones ruler. You would need to go back to one of your Muslim theocracies to find a ruler.
 
Does anyone seriously trust this Administration to deal with this crisis in anything but as political manner?
Our wonderful Pres.Trump has the situation totally under control.

We are a blessed nation to have him as our ruler. ... :thup:

Trump is no ones ruler. You would need to go back to one of your Muslim theocracies to find a ruler.
You seem more than comfortable with his autocratic tendencies
 
And Trump is trying to cover for not having standard testing kits or really any vaccine research that we know of .....
WHAT are you talking about?


U.S. companies work on coronavirus vaccine | ShareAmerica

"U.S. pharmaceutical companies are working on vaccines to combat the new coronavirus and stop its spread.

Among the U.S. drug companies involved: Inovio, of Plymouth Meeting, Pennsylvania; Johnson & Johnson, of New Brunswick, New Jersey; Moderna, of Cambridge, Massachusetts; and Novavax, of Gaithersburg, Maryland."




https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...erishly-on-coronavirus-vaccine-top-us-general

The United States Military is working on / researching a vaccine




https://nypost.com/2020/02/28/israeli-scientists-claim-to-be-weeks-away-from-coronavirus-vaccine/

Our ally, Israel, is making break-throughs
LOL. Trump has it well in hand. You don't get alternate facts. He cut science and cdc and is now scrambling to find fill ins with pharma and even Israel. Too funny.

But CDC cant' tell us how much quarantine may be necessary in a worst case. If that comes to pass we'll be scared shitless. No reason to be scared yet. Amused at Trump's anti-science stance, but not scared … yet.

Trump cut nothing. Libtards lie!
 
If Trump fired any
Legum outlined a series of cost-cutting decisions made by the Trump administration in preceding years that had gutted the nation’s infectious disease defense infrastructure. The “pandemic response team” firing claim referred to news accounts from Spring 2018 reporting that White House officials tasked with directing a national response to a pandemic had been ousted.

Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks,” had been fired one month prior.

It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.

Why do we have a CDC and NIH if the NSC has a person doing the job? Wasting taxpayer money?
 
Shutting down departments of the government, and firing or reassigning personnel from those departments, which were established to handle a health crisis like the one we are now experiencing.
Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response
Trump Has Sabotaged America’s Coronavirus Response

Overruling the CDC in bringing back infected Americans from a cruise ship on a commercial flight. Allowing those infected people to expose non-infected people on the flight to the virus.
Coronavirus-infected Americans flown home against CDC’s advice
https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...f54cae-5279-11ea-b119-4faabac6674f_story.html

Employees of HHS were told to deal with potentially infected Americans returning from China without the necessary training or equipment. Those employees then returned to their daily lives without being tested for the virus. The first case of a person contracting the virus from an unknown source happened within twenty miles of where the people returning from China were being housed. Making it likely the first case of infection directly related to the admin's incompetence.
HHS whistleblower claims US workers received coronavirus evacuees without proper precautions
HHS whistleblower: US workers received coronavirus evacuees without training or protection - CNNPolitics

Downplaying the threat to the public's health. “And again, when you have 15 people — and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero — that’s a pretty good job we’ve done,” he said.

Allowing a political message instead of a science based message be the admin's priority.

Contradicting health experts in the admin's public messaging.
President Trump contradicts health officials on coronavirus response

Not making sure enough test kits are available.
New York Is Making Its Own Coronavirus Test After The CDC’s Tests Have Repeatedly Failed

Not making sure enough protective equipment like the appropriate masks are available.
The Global Shortage of Medical Masks Won't Be Easing Soon

Not making a plan for the increased availability of hospital beds when existing facilities become overwhelmed.
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Two inevitable events are about to unfold. One is the spread of the virus. Incompetence by the admin has already resulted in it spreading faster than it would have if health safety protocols had been followed.

The other is there is going to be a massive effort on the part of the admin and the right wing media cohort lead by Faux, to misinform the public (as it always does) about the admin's already bungled response to this very real threat to the public's safety. We have already witnessed sock puppet Mike Pence heap unwarranted praise on Dear Leader for preparing the nation for an outbreak. That message will be endlessly repeated. It is a bald faced lie.
How many identical threads are you going to create on this?


Get a grip old man
 

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