More economic GOOD News...DOW hits new record..on track to hit 17K.

[thereisnospoon]

The investment doesn't work unless the middle class workers do the job. Dumbass!

ROFL what a dumb ass POS you are.

I suppose you've never done any work as an investment that you were not directly paid for. Effing marxist pig. Investments don't have to pay off. Investments in $ is no different than an investment in time or effort.

That doesn't matter. Without the Capitalists, there would be no work for the middle class to do.

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

 

[Marxist]

The investment doesn't work unless the middle class workers do the job. Dumbass!

That doesn't matter. Without the Capitalists, there would be no work for the middle class to do.

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

 

[Marxist]

Yeah, you're full of shit.

You haven't run so much as a lemonade stand. I wager you likely don't even balanced your check book do you?

Am I wrong? Maybe I am. You tell me. What company have you run?

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

And?.....So who the hell are you to demand others provide for your happiness?

Happiness? I want starving and impoverished children to get proper food and shelter. Fuck the capitalist greed.

 

[RKMBrown]

And a CEO is worth his money?
Doubt it but your kind seem to kiss the ground they walk on.

The investment doesn't work unless the middle class workers do the job. Dumbass!

ROFL

Yes, yes, your petty ROFL response is hilarious. Now tell me, what work does the capitalist actually do then "invest" to buy materials, made by workers, hell, everything the capitalist uses is made by workers.

ROFL what a dumb ass POS you are.

I suppose you've never done any work as an investment that you were not directly paid for. Effing marxist pig. Investments don't have to pay off. Investments in $ is no different than an investment in time or effort.

ROFL what an idiot. Yeah cause a lawyer or engineer getting paid 300k is "middle class."

You talking to me ass hole?

 

[thereisnospoon]

More economic GOOD News...DOW hits new record..on track to hit 17K.

Why is it good news that a bunch of speculators and super rich are hitting it big in the Stock market? It will be good news when people stop losing their jobs. It will be good news when people can get a raise in income.
It will be good news when people start spending again. But the market hitting 17k big fucking deal.

THe Obamabots want to give Obama the credit. That's why

 

[thereisnospoon]

You haven't run so much as a lemonade stand. I wager you likely don't even balanced your check book do you?

Am I wrong? Maybe I am. You tell me. What company have you run?

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

And?.....So who the hell are you to demand others provide for your happiness?

Happiness? I want starving and impoverished children to get proper food and shelter. Fuck the capitalist greed.

Hey superstar...Capitalism and business have nothing to do with people who are not responsible for the well being of their kids.
You do realize, you stopped making sense about 12 pages ago, don't you?

 

[thereisnospoon]

That doesn't matter. Without the Capitalists, there would be no work for the middle class to do.

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

 

[Marxist]

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

And?.....So who the hell are you to demand others provide for your happiness?

Happiness? I want starving and impoverished children to get proper food and shelter. Fuck the capitalist greed.

Hey superstar...Capitalism and business have nothing to do with people who are not responsible for the well being of their kids.
You do realize, you stopped making sense about 12 pages ago, don't you?

Most of there parents work in third world countries, not my fault you can't keep up.

 

[Marxist]

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

Yes, the worker is getting paid less then what he is worth.

 

[Andylusion]

It is hard work. You are just wrong. Sorry. I've seen CEOs put in MONTHS to put together a deal.

Sorry, you are just flat out wrong. And by the way, those sweat shops, are often the highest paying jobs in those areas. The people who work there, have a higher standard of living than all their fellow citizens.

It's amazing how arrogant people in this country can be, attacking those who give a better life to those who have no other possibility for improving themselves.

I remember reading about the Nike plant in Malaysia. Everyone screamed and yelled.... so they raised wages.... AND LAID OFF 25% OF THE WORKERS. Hundreds of workers lost their jobs, and went back to being completely impoverished. Good job socialist scum. You screwed over some of the poorest people in the world. Well done. Give yourself a pat on the back. Idiots.

Yeah, you're full of shit.

You haven't run so much as a lemonade stand. I wager you likely don't even balanced your check book do you?

Am I wrong? Maybe I am. You tell me. What company have you run?

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

Right, so having admitted that you have never run anything... how do you claim to know that those who do, are not working? How do you claim what they do isn't hard, when you yourself have never done it?

 

[Andylusion]

You haven't run so much as a lemonade stand. I wager you likely don't even balanced your check book do you?

Am I wrong? Maybe I am. You tell me. What company have you run?

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

And?.....So who the hell are you to demand others provide for your happiness?

Happiness? I want starving and impoverished children to get proper food and shelter. Fuck the capitalist greed.

Then by all means pay for their food yourself.

It's amazing how often those on the left, claim everyone else should provide for such and such.... yet they themselves never do.

 

[Andylusion]

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

Yes, the worker is getting paid less then what he is worth.

You have the right to be wrong. You can say that as many times as you want, but you are still wrong.

 

[Marxist]

Yeah, you're full of shit.

You haven't run so much as a lemonade stand. I wager you likely don't even balanced your check book do you?

Am I wrong? Maybe I am. You tell me. What company have you run?

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

Right, so having admitted that you have never run anything... how do you claim to know that those who do, are not working? How do you claim what they do isn't hard, when you yourself have never done it?

I never said they don't "work"

 

[Marxist]

I balance my checkbook, and I have made investments in the past when I was unaware of the problems

What company have you run.

None, like most people.

And?.....So who the hell are you to demand others provide for your happiness?

Happiness? I want starving and impoverished children to get proper food and shelter. Fuck the capitalist greed.

Then by all means pay for their food yourself.

It's amazing how often those on the left, claim everyone else should provide for such and such.... yet they themselves never do.

Theirs the core of the problem you fucking moron, paying for food, water... I don't? You know nothing about me, don't claim to.

 

[Marxist]

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

Yes, the worker is getting paid less then what he is worth.

You have the right to be wrong. You can say that as many times as you want, but you are still wrong.

No, they are literally paid less then their labor is worth, this is the way capitalists profit.

 

[RKMBrown]

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

Yes, the worker is getting paid less then what he is worth.

You have the right to be wrong. You can say that as many times as you want, but you are still wrong.

No, they are literally paid less then their labor is worth, this is the way capitalists profit.

^Moron thinks the owner should give all his money away, cause profits are "evil."

 

[Andylusion]

That doesn't matter. Without the Capitalists, there would be no work for the middle class to do.

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Because a business that doesn't make a profit, isn't in business anymore. Hostess is a perfect example. They had high labor costs, and went broke.

You don't hire people unless you make a profit from hiring them. If you actually lose money by hiring someone.... why would you hire them?

You prove the concept. You start a business where you don't profit or "exploit" anyone. Go do it. Stop b!tching about it, and do it yourself.

Of course you can't. And you won't.

 

[Marxist]

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Ahem....
Ok....I interview and hire someone. in that meeting I propose a wage and benefit package to which the new hire agrees. In return I have a high expectation of performance. I also expect the worker's performance to be such that his work has a net PLUS revenue result....
The worker is under the full understanding that there are periodic performance reviews that could result in either a bonus or reduction in pay.
He agrees....
Now you show me the "exploitation"....
I hired thus guy to help my firm make a better profit so that I can feed MY family. That's why I started this business.
You got a fuckin problem with that?....

Yes, the worker is getting paid less then what he is worth.

You have the right to be wrong. You can say that as many times as you want, but you are still wrong.

No, they are literally paid less then their labor is worth, this is the way capitalists profit.

^Moron thinks the owner should give all his money away, cause profits are "evil."

It's literally exploitation, workers should collectively own the production, and be compensated for what they're worth.

 

[RKMBrown]

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Because a business that doesn't make a profit, isn't in business anymore. Hostess is a perfect example. They had high labor costs, and went broke.

You don't hire people unless you make a profit from hiring them. If you actually lose money by hiring someone.... why would you hire them?

You prove the concept. You start a business where you don't profit or "exploit" anyone. Go do it. Stop b!tching about it, and do it yourself.

Of course you can't. And you won't.

What he's espousing is an economy run by govco where there are no owners only slaves of the government.

 

[Marxist]

Without the capitalists, work would be based on the actual needs of society, not by what the capitalist wants done for profit.

Wow......Without the business owner we have...WHAT?
Business does not operate for "the needs of society"...Nor should it.
Products and services are made available through market research.
Your premise would suggest you would have government force business for instance to continue making manual typewriters.
After all, the people employed by the typewriter manufacturer "need" jobs.
Have you a problem with the concept of profit?

I disagree with the idea of profit in regards to capitalism.

What does that mean?
I'll ask it another way..
If not for the purpose of profit potential( there are no guarantees) then where would be the incentive to start a business?

Why not start a business, in a system where the concept of profit and exploiting others isn't seen as ok.

Because a business that doesn't make a profit, isn't in business anymore. Hostess is a perfect example. They had high labor costs, and went broke.

You don't hire people unless you make a profit from hiring them. If you actually lose money by hiring someone.... why would you hire them?

You prove the concept. You start a business where you don't profit or "exploit" anyone. Go do it. Stop b!tching about it, and do it yourself.

Of course you can't. And you won't.

Collectively owned production by workers? That's the BS of capitalism, the inherit exploition of many for the profit of a few or one