More "freedom" going on in Denver.

[westwall]

“What do you need an AR 15 for?”

This question is often asked in the wake of a mass shooting involving semi-automatic rifles.

But this question is without merit.

Citizens are not required to ‘justify’ the exercising of a fundamental right as a ‘prerequisite’ to indeed do so; the burden rests solely with government to justify placing limits and restriction on a fundamental right.

That one does not perceive a ‘need’ to own an AR 15 doesn’t warrant seeking to prohibit possessing such a firearm.

Yes it does. It's one of the reasons you have the highest rate of firearm homicides in the developed world. Easy access to handguns is another reason for you gun mortality rates. But none of this matters. US citizens as a whole have decided easy access to handguns, in particular, is more important than school kids' lives. No biggie, no skin off my nose, I'm just amused by the ridiculous arguments of those too scared to go shopping without carrying a sidearm.

No, the reason why we have such a high rate is because we have a population of violent third world immigrants that number in the millions. They bring their violent cultures with them. But that's a fact that you ignore.

 

[westwall]

No, it's very low because they lost 4.5 million people during WWII. The violent men were all killed in the war.

A reply worthy or a USMB rightard mod.

Indeed. And it is also factual.

 

[K9Buck]

No biggie, no skin off my nose,

Yea, no biggie, that's why you're arguing with some stranger on an internet message board. LOL.

 

[K9Buck]

Sad, but we can't solve problems because we have politicians who are in the pay of the rich...

That's why many of us chose to vote for a non-politician to be potus, Donald Trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sad, but we can't solve problems because we have politicians who are in the pay of the rich...

That's why many of us chose to vote for a non-politician to be potus, Donald Trump.

Rubbish... You don't want the rich to control government, so you vote in an extremely rich person to run the executive?

I mean, it's like saying "I never want to speak Spanish in my life, so I'm moving to Spain and I'm going to enroll in a Spanish course there."

 

[cnm]

Actually it is you who are ignoring the facts. Gun violence is on the increase in every country that has banned guns. That is a fact.

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

 

[cnm]

Yea, no biggie, that's why you're arguing with some stranger on an internet message board. LOL.

Light entertainment with idiologues. I mean they won't accept facts so who can take them seriously?

edit...As I've intimated, the majority of American politicians are controlled by those prepared to sacrifice school kids for easy access to firearms, handguns in particular. What serious thing is left to say?

 

[cnm]

Indeed. And it is also factual.

No, it is bullshit, as expected.

 

[K9Buck]

Yea, no biggie, that's why you're arguing with some stranger on an internet message board. LOL.

Light entertainment with idiologues. I mean they won't accept facts so who can take them seriously?

edit...As I've intimated, the majority of American politicians are controlled by those prepared to sacrifice school kids for easy access to firearms, handguns in particular. What serious thing is left to say?

There are many, many vulnerable people who keep a gun to protect their lives from violent, criminal predators. I'm not in favor of stripping them of their protection.

Additionally, if you take away guns, people will continue to find other ways to murder. One who wants to commit mass murder has a multitude of options besides a gun. One can rent a big truck and drive through crowds of people and kill dozens. No sweat.

What percentage of fire arm deaths are suicides? What percentage of fire arm deaths involve drug gangs at war? I imagine the majority of shootings are the aforementioned.

While we're at it, which city leads the world in acid attacks? When is England going to come to its senses and ban acid?

 

[K9Buck]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

 

[August West]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

 

[K9Buck]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

Chicago has been run by liberals for what, 50-60 years? In fact, isn't virtually EVERY urban community in America run by liberals? Why is it, then, that urban communities are many more times more likely to be involved in crime and violence?

 

[August West]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

Chicago has been run by liberals for what, 50-60 years? In fact, isn't virtually EVERY urban community in America run by liberals? Why is it, then, that urban communities are many more times more likely to be involved in crime and violence?

Instead of answering my questions you just screech LIBRUL. Dismissed!

 

[Marion Morrison]

Colorado deputy killed, 4 others shot responding to domestic disturbance outside Denver


Lets hope that this is the last of it this year.

After your experience with Hitler, I'd think you'd have some sense.

Godwined by post #3! I'll drink to that!

 

[K9Buck]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

Chicago has been run by liberals for what, 50-60 years? In fact, isn't virtually EVERY urban community in America run by liberals? Why is it, then, that urban communities are many more times more likely to be involved in crime and violence?

Instead of answering my questions you just screech LIBRUL. Dismissed!

Your questions had obvious answers.

You don't like the answers to the questions that I posed to you and so you cut and run. Bye coward.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Did their guns help them in this situation ?

If it came to socialist death camps...yeah, it would have helped them.....

Did not having guns help these people......all unarmed and murdered by their governments.....and had the people of Europe been armed, the war could have been prevented and or greatly reduced in severity......

WILLIAMS: Fascism And Communism

The People's Republic of China tops the list, with 76 million lives lost at the hands of the government from 1949 to 1987.

The Soviet Union follows, with 62 million lives lost from 1917 to 1987.

Adolf Hitler's Nazi German government killed 21 million people between 1933 and 1945.

Then there are lesser murdering regimes, such as Nationalist China, Japan, Turkey, Vietnam and Mexico. According to Rummel's research, the 20th century saw 262 millionpeople's lives lost at the hands of their own governments.

But my understanding is that the government rounded these people up and put them in camps. Their guns did not help them at all.

Correct.

The notion that private citizens with small arms could ‘overthrow’ or ‘resist’ a government’s modern military is childish idiocy.

Just as childish and idiotic is the notion that the possession of firearm has anything to do with ‘freedom’

Americans are a free people because we live in a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not the ‘will of the people.’

And the American people have the right to possess firearms to defend against crime; it’s the First Amendment, not the Second Amendment, that protects Americans from government tyranny – the Second Amendment doesn’t ‘trump’ the First.

Germany had laws too moron. As did Russia.......pieces of paper do not give you freedom or protection from evil men.....thinking they do is what gave us World War 2....

Americans had their guns when the government was oppressing them in the 1860s.

How did that work out ?

 

[August West]

The countries with the most guns and the least controls have the highest firearm homicide rates. That is the fact none of the idiologues will address. 'Gun violence' is a catch all in which you can conflate anything you want, rather than getting usefully specific.

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

Chicago has been run by liberals for what, 50-60 years? In fact, isn't virtually EVERY urban community in America run by liberals? Why is it, then, that urban communities are many more times more likely to be involved in crime and violence?

Instead of answering my questions you just screech LIBRUL. Dismissed!

Your questions had obvious answers.

You don't like the answers to the questions that I posed to you and so you cut and run. Bye coward.

If I was a coward I would have a stash of guns. I have none.

 

[K9Buck]

Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country.

Were there guns in Chicago when the laws were enacted? Are there checkpoints for searching vehicles coming into the city? City by city gun laws are worthless.

Chicago has been run by liberals for what, 50-60 years? In fact, isn't virtually EVERY urban community in America run by liberals? Why is it, then, that urban communities are many more times more likely to be involved in crime and violence?

Instead of answering my questions you just screech LIBRUL. Dismissed!

Your questions had obvious answers.

You don't like the answers to the questions that I posed to you and so you cut and run. Bye coward.

If I was a coward I would have a stash of guns. I have none.

You are a coward and you are dishonest.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country."

Wrong.

This fails as a confusion of correlation and causation fallacy.

That gun violence occurs in jurisdictions with firearm regulatory measures doesn’t mean those measures have ‘failed’ or are otherwise ‘unwarranted.’

 

[K9Buck]

"Chicago has the most gun control and the fewest guns and one of the highest homicide rates with guns in the country."

Wrong.

This fails as a confusion of correlation and causation fallacy.

That gun violence occurs in jurisdictions with firearm regulatory measures doesn’t mean those measures have ‘failed’ or are otherwise ‘unwarranted.’

No, I think it's probably mostly true.

What liberals here won't answer is why liberal controlled cities are plagued with crime and violence.