"More Likely Than Whites…."

[Tax Man]

It's like every week now we get a RWnut thread explaining to us how much better off poor black Americans would be if we just made them poorer.

Do you have an actual argument in there somewhere?

it has gone passed your head.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here’s the premise: Democrats/Liberals are ready to sacrifice any Americans, even their constituents, in their greed for power.



1.First…their refusal to support a border, and to stem the avalanche of illegal immigration

Guess who this hurts?

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

As shown by Hussein Obama's paean to illegals to go out and vote.....there is a benefit to the Democrat Party, if not to their most loyal constituents.



2. How to explain this counterintuitive endeavor by the Democrats?

After all, without the black vote, Democrats would never win a national election.
"...what would happen if a smaller percentage of blacks turned out:

- At 90 percent black turn-out, Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes slide into the GOP column.

- At 75 percent black turn-out, Pennsylvania’s 21 electoral votes go Republican.

- At 70 percent Michigan’s 17 electoral votes turn from blue to red.

- At 50 percent the GOP collects Delawre’s three electoral votes.

I don’t know what a realistic number to project is for the effects of angry black apathy, but I’ll stop at 50 percent. It may be that going as low as 75 percent is unrealistic. Most likely it’s impossible to say. (And this doesn’t take into account things like congressional districts where black voters make the margin of difference.)"
Do Democrats need the black vote? | RobertEmmet



Oh, and that title…’More Likely Than Whites…'
I’ll get to that next.

What can be more racist than to say that winning the vote of black Americans is some sort of evil?

Treating them like automatons with only one worldview. Disowning them when they have the wherewithal to develop one different from yours. That's what the Democratic party does. That's what people like you do.

Moreover, what's even more racist? Alienating them for what they believe. How is that any different from segregation?

Prove the Republican Party doesn't.

Not my place to prove anything. Try not to deflect, Carbine, it makes you look foolish.

I'm telling you that Republicans do exactly what you just accused Democrats of doing, which renders your attempted point

RETARDED.

Um, no.

First, I'm not a Republican.

Second, I personally believe that a black person is just as capable of free thought as a white person. And that is why I detest Democrats who treat black people in the opposite manner.

Third, you didn't deny the fact the Democratic Party does what I just mentioned. Which makes your point

INVALID.

 

[Tax Man]

It's like every week now we get a RWnut thread explaining to us how much better off poor black Americans would be if we just made them poorer.

Do you have an actual argument in there somewhere?

Yes. The OP is claiming that government assistance to the poor has ruined black America.

So, she must believe that ending that assistance is a good idea.

There are a shit load of white rednecks in the south and the low IQ states in the mid west who would be destroyed if that happened.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

You give them a college education and a stable job, not a meager government income and subsidized healthcare. Are they not capable of making anything of themselves without government assistance? Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

 

[Tax Man]

What can be more racist than to say that winning the vote of black Americans is some sort of evil?

Treating them like automatons with only one worldview. Disowning them when they have the wherewithal to develop one different from yours. That's what the Democratic party does. That's what people like you do.

Moreover, what's even more racist? Alienating them for what they believe. How is that any different from segregation?

Prove the Republican Party doesn't.

Not my place to prove anything. Try not to deflect, Carbine, it makes you look foolish.

I'm telling you that Republicans do exactly what you just accused Democrats of doing, which renders your attempted point

RETARDED.

Um, no.

First, I'm not a Republican.

Second, I personally believe that a black person is just as capable of free thought as a white person. And that is why I detest Democrats who treat black people in the opposite manner.

Third, you didn't deny the fact the Democratic Party does what I just mentioned. Which makes your point

INVALID.

Derp!

 

[NYcarbineer]

You know something interesting?

The OP has done this same rant, in various versions, probably a dozen times or more over the years, and you know what?

Never once does she propose any semblance of an alternative plan to the status quo that she can argue will make things better for black Americans in poverty.

Why? Because she has none. This is really just about trolling liberals.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes. The OP is claiming that government assistance to the poor has ruined black America.

So, she must believe that ending that assistance is a good idea.

It is. Assist those that truly need it, not those who are too lazy to get off their butts and sustain themselves.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Treating them like automatons with only one worldview. Disowning them when they have the wherewithal to develop one different from yours. That's what the Democratic party does. That's what people like you do.

Moreover, what's even more racist? Alienating them for what they believe. How is that any different from segregation?

Prove the Republican Party doesn't.

Not my place to prove anything. Try not to deflect, Carbine, it makes you look foolish.

I'm telling you that Republicans do exactly what you just accused Democrats of doing, which renders your attempted point

RETARDED.

Um, no.

First, I'm not a Republican.

Second, I personally believe that a black person is just as capable of free thought as a white person. And that is why I detest Democrats who treat black people in the opposite manner.

Third, you didn't deny the fact the Democratic Party does what I just mentioned. Which makes your point

INVALID.

Derp!

What, is that a liberal mating call or something? If so, not interested.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why then are all my black friends and relatives doing so well? They are all liberal voters and can not stand conservative voices.

Here for your remedial, ExLaxMan?

Excellent.


Under Trump:
"Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years"
Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years




Maybe you remember this nightmare:
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl



You were saying?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

You give them a college education and a stable job, not a meager government income and subsidized healthcare. Are they not capable of making anything of themselves without government assistance? Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

Not even close to addressing my proposal.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You know something interesting?

The OP has done this same rant, in various versions, probably a dozen times or more over the years, and you know what?

Never once does she propose any semblance of an alternative plan to the status quo that she can argue will make things better for black Americans in poverty.

Why? Because she has none. This is really just about trolling liberals.

Alright, propose something of your own, otherwise your lectures are pointless.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes. The OP is claiming that government assistance to the poor has ruined black America.

So, she must believe that ending that assistance is a good idea.

It is. Assist those that truly need it, not those who are too lazy to get off their butts and sustain themselves.

Let's remind all:

From Peter Ferrara, “America’s Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb,” chapter five.

1. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Such should be the epitaph of Liberalism.
2. ‘Welfare’ as a wholly owned subsidiary of the government, and its main result is the incentivizing of a disrespect for oneself, and for the entity that provides the welfare. As more folks in a poor neighborhood languish with little or no work, entire local culture begins to change: daily work is no longer the expected social norm. Extended periods of hanging around the neighborhood, neither working nor going to school becoming more and more socially acceptable.
   1. Since productive activity not making any economic sense because of the work disincentives of the welfare plantation, other kinds of activities proliferate: drug and alcohol abuse, crime, recreational sex, illegitimacy, and family breakup are the new social norms, as does the culture of violence.
   2. "The lessons of history … show conclusively that continued dependence upon relief induces a spiritual and moral disintegration fundamentally destructive to the national fiber. To dole out relief in this way is to administer a narcotic, a subtle destroyer of the human spirit."
      
      These searing words about Depression-era welfare are from Franklin Roosevelt's 1935 State of the Union Address.
   3. On Dec. 7, 2012, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof offered an unexpected concession:
      “This is painful for a liberal to admit, but … America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.”

 

[TemplarKormac]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

You give them a college education and a stable job, not a meager government income and subsidized healthcare. Are they not capable of making anything of themselves without government assistance? Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

Not even close to addressing my proposal.

Curious, what is your "proposal"?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes. The OP is claiming that government assistance to the poor has ruined black America.

So, she must believe that ending that assistance is a good idea.

It is. Assist those that truly need it, not those who are too lazy to get off their butts and sustain themselves.

I agree with this plan:

1. Graduating from high school.


2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.


3. Having a full-time job.


Works for every group and every individual.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why then are all my black friends and relatives doing so well? They are all liberal voters and can not stand conservative voices.

Here for your remedial, ExLaxMan?

Excellent.


Under Trump:
"Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years"
Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years




Maybe you remember this nightmare:
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl



You were saying?

Tavis Smiley is full of shit. No wonder you'd quote him.

Blacks lost ground on every single economic indicator under Obama?

lol,

Black unemployment January 2009 13.4%

Black unemployment January 2017 7.9%

How is that losing ground?

Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yes. The OP is claiming that government assistance to the poor has ruined black America.

So, she must believe that ending that assistance is a good idea.

It is. Assist those that truly need it, not those who are too lazy to get off their butts and sustain themselves.

I agree with this plan:

1. Graduating from high school.


2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.


3. Having a full-time job.


Works for every group and every individual.

lol, that's a plan?

Tell us why you would end Medicaid. That's the biggest government assistance program for low income Americans.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

You give them a college education and a stable job, not a meager government income and subsidized healthcare. Are they not capable of making anything of themselves without government assistance? Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

Not even close to addressing my proposal.

Curious, what is your "proposal"?

I proposed ending Medicaid since you people think it's keeping blacks on the plantation.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Okay, let's say we end Medicaid tomorrow. Period. No more government funded healthcare assistance to low income Americans.

You people tell us how much better black Americans in poverty will be, say, a year from now. Five years from now.

You give them a college education and a stable job, not a meager government income and subsidized healthcare. Are they not capable of making anything of themselves without government assistance? Why is that such a foreign concept to you?

Not even close to addressing my proposal.

Curious, what is your "proposal"?

I proposed ending Medicaid since you people think it's keeping blacks on the plantation.

Sarcasm is not a viable substitute for an actual argument, Carbine.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Tell us why you would end Medicaid. That's the biggest government assistance program for low income Americans.

Let's make something clear. We don't want to "end" Medicaid. We want to alter it. We want it to be available to those who actually need it as opposed to those who are just living off of it.