More Proof the skeptics are WINNING!!

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LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun
 
LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun

Lots of non-sun things cause higher temperatures.
 
LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun

Lots of non-sun things cause higher temperatures.
Urban heat and that's it
 
LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun


jc- do you bake Christmas cookies?

if you do, or have ever baked cookies, did you just put in the cookie pan then turn on the oven and wait ten minutes? or did you wait until the oven preheated to the right temperature?

the atmosphere has been preheated. it gives off heat just like the sides of an oven. the heatsink has been charged and it radiates in all directions. think about the basics first, before you contemplate what a stable amount of greenhouse gases do to the equilibrium. and then an increasing amount of GHGs. you will come to the inescapable conclusion that GHGs heat the atmosphere, primarily at the surface/atmosphere boundary. it is a solid, physics based mechanism supported by massive amounts of technically measured evidence.

the greenhouse effect is real! but dont stop there or you will become a chicken little like crick, screaming that the sky is falling or the planet is burning up.

what else is happening? water vapour, the main GHG is transporting energy from the surface via convection and phase change latent heat, and carrying it aloft. in a much grander scale, conduction and convection are orders of magnitude more efficient at moving energy that radiation is. subtle changes in convection and clouds simply dwarf the tiny changes caused by CO2. and they cannot be incorporated into climate models except in estimated general way. the IPCC admits that they can't do clouds, and the error estimates swamp the tiny contribution of CO2.

there are lots of things wrong with the theory that CO2 controls the climate, but altogether denying that CO2 has a warming influence at the surface is not one of them.
 
LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun


jc- do you bake Christmas cookies?

if you do, or have ever baked cookies, did you just put in the cookie pan then turn on the oven and wait ten minutes? or did you wait until the oven preheated to the right temperature?

the atmosphere has been preheated. it gives off heat just like the sides of an oven. the heatsink has been charged and it radiates in all directions. think about the basics first, before you contemplate what a stable amount of greenhouse gases do to the equilibrium. and then an increasing amount of GHGs. you will come to the inescapable conclusion that GHGs heat the atmosphere, primarily at the surface/atmosphere boundary. it is a solid, physics based mechanism supported by massive amounts of technically measured evidence.

the greenhouse effect is real! but dont stop there or you will become a chicken little like crick, screaming that the sky is falling or the planet is burning up.

what else is happening? water vapour, the main GHG is transporting energy from the surface via convection and phase change latent heat, and carrying it aloft. in a much grander scale, conduction and convection are orders of magnitude more efficient at moving energy that radiation is. subtle changes in convection and clouds simply dwarf the tiny changes caused by CO2. and they cannot be incorporated into climate models except in estimated general way. the IPCC admits that they can't do clouds, and the error estimates swamp the tiny contribution of CO2.

there are lots of things wrong with the theory that CO2 controls the climate, but altogether denying that CO2 has a warming influence at the surface is not one of them.

While that theroy is generally accepted, it has not yet been proven, nor how the system reacts to that minute change. While i generally agree that the theory is correct, from a theoretical standpoint, there is far to little empirical evidence to support it at this point, This is the main problem with CAGW, the lack of empirically observed evidence and atmospheric operational understanding to support it. IE: all alarmist modeling fails and this represents our technical understanding. We dont know squat and what we do claim to know is wrong!

Only the realist models are anywhere near correct and they show a far less rise than the laboratory observed rise of CO2, in controlled conditions. Those models show less than 1/2 of the CO2 rise potential, which is right in line with unadjusted temperatures (observed empirical evidence).

The question about GHG's is far from settled and if the realists are correct, and I think they are from the research Ive been doing, we have zero to worry about with CO2 well above 1500ppm.
 
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More oop's for the alarmists... Facts that lay waste to the IPCC and the EPA's fantasy world..

Source
 
LOL.....if this isn't the final exclamation point on this entire thread, I don't know what is............


The New ‘Consensus’: 97 Percent Of Americans Aren’t Worried About Global Warming


JC.........Billy............Ian.............FlacalTenn............Frank.........Todd.......could you be laughing any harder??:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:


Nobody cares about this shit..........at this point, this whole forum is our playground!!!:funnyface::funnyface:
I just saw back radiation causes higher temperatures. Huh. I didn't know CO2 was a sun


jc- do you bake Christmas cookies?

if you do, or have ever baked cookies, did you just put in the cookie pan then turn on the oven and wait ten minutes? or did you wait until the oven preheated to the right temperature?

the atmosphere has been preheated. it gives off heat just like the sides of an oven. the heatsink has been charged and it radiates in all directions. think about the basics first, before you contemplate what a stable amount of greenhouse gases do to the equilibrium. and then an increasing amount of GHGs. you will come to the inescapable conclusion that GHGs heat the atmosphere, primarily at the surface/atmosphere boundary. it is a solid, physics based mechanism supported by massive amounts of technically measured evidence.

the greenhouse effect is real! but dont stop there or you will become a chicken little like crick, screaming that the sky is falling or the planet is burning up.

what else is happening? water vapour, the main GHG is transporting energy from the surface via convection and phase change latent heat, and carrying it aloft. in a much grander scale, conduction and convection are orders of magnitude more efficient at moving energy that radiation is. subtle changes in convection and clouds simply dwarf the tiny changes caused by CO2. and they cannot be incorporated into climate models except in estimated general way. the IPCC admits that they can't do clouds, and the error estimates swamp the tiny contribution of CO2.

there are lots of things wrong with the theory that CO2 controls the climate, but altogether denying that CO2 has a warming influence at the surface is not one of them.



dang Ian.....love your science stuff.:rock: The doper AGW climate crusaders have this shit bass ackwards.

This entire thread should be mandatory education in all the public schools!!!:coffee: Almost nothing in this thread is taught in the schools......its all the established AGW narrative.
 
If you needed any more proof that the IPCC and the UN is nothing more than a socialist wealth theft and redistribution racket in need of RICO prosecution here it is...

#COP21 Talks Delayed - US Threatens To Walk Out Of Paris Talks If Financial Obligations Made Legally Binding

Those with their hands out demand that we give and give now! To the tune of 3.5 trillion US dollars..


How do you tell these people to go fuck themselves in French?




Great stuff Billy...........fuck Europe. Been bailing those fucks out for 100 years now. 3.5 trillion dollars while China ups its coal production 50% over the next 30 years.:spinner:
 
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