bripat9643
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Of course there are victimless crimes. If I smoke a doobie, who is the victim?I appreciate the lesson that your dad taught you. I was raised with similar values... but it did shock me when I was 16 and I got a fake ID, never told my parents. It lasted for a year then delaminated. 2 years later My family was going on a vacation for my moms birthday and my dad had found the ID in my drawer. The day of the trip he sits me down and told me he found the ID, I turned white. He let the fear linger for a minute the pulled it out of his pocket, relaminated and looking like new. He said this trip we are going to the casino and I'm teaching you how to play blackjack and poker.Sounds like one of those criminals. Did you turn him in after he didn't show up in court? That would be the lawful thing to do, right?Feel free to explain to a judge that they can't throw you in jail for a broken tail light if you refuse to pay a ticket for it. We'll see which of us is right.
They threw my brother in jail for jay walking and then not showing up in court.
You people act like that would be bad. Let me give you a quick story of what happened to me.
I was a little kid. I don't remember how old. But you remember when video games on computer came on diskettes?
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Remember those? Well I had a game on one of these diskettes. It was a legally purchased game, nothing wrong with that.
But I broke the disk. And the game wouldn't play anymore. So I walked down to the computer store, where I happen to know they had a Demo of that very game. And I swapped out the disk. I put my disk in their computer, and put their disk in my pocket.
They looked identical, so they couldn't tell.
My father found out. First he spanked me, then he dragged my butt down to the store, asked for the store manager, and told him... in public.... that I was a thief, and stole their property, and that if they wanted to call the police, he would accept whatever penalty they deemed fit.... in the middle of the store. Right in the middle.
I was terrified, and on the ground looking up at this store manager and my father.
You want to know something? That was the best learning experience of my life. I never stole JACK SQUAT from anyone anywhere ever. Even to this day, every single bit of software, every movie video, every music song, every operating system, Windows or Mac OS, that I own..... every single bit of it is 100% paid for, and legally purchased.
So let me answer your question..... if I caught my nephew or brother, or sister doing something illegal, first I would confront them directly, and then if they refused to make it right.... yeah, I would turn them in.
My family is not a family of law breakers. We might mess up, but we make it right, and take our penalties as a real man should. YES I WOULD TURN THEM IN. That's what good mature adult people do.
Yes it was illegal but it was also a victimless crime.
i don't condone illegal border crossing, I don't think it is fair to those who go through the legal process. I'm fine with cracking down on that system and making it better. But the people who do it are not violent criminals, they are often poor and desperate and looking for a better life for their families. That may not excuse their actions but but it gives me compassion for their situation and an open mind on how to deal with millions of people who are in a tough spot. Especially if they have children who have lived here most of their lives.
There is no such thing as a victim-less crime. No such thing.
Every single time you commit a crime, you justify crime to everyone else. You victimize the entire nation as a whole.
Every person ever caught in any crime immediately points to other people doing it, and saying "See? They do it, so why can't I". The very act of calling it a victim-less crime, creates more crime.
All you have to do is go to a prison, and talk to the people there, and every single one will say they shouldn't be there, because other people have done wrong things, and they are not there.
And all I need for proof of my claim... is your own story, and post. Your father committed a crime, and because of that, he taught you that crime is ok.... which is why you are here on this thread right now, justifying crime.
You are living proof of exactly what I was saying. By your father giving a pass to crime, he taught you to give a pass to crime, and you are here trying to teach others to give a pass to crime.
And compare that to my family, which taught me right from wrong, and that crime is always wrong, and so I don't do it, and I'm teaching others to not do it either.
Everything I claimed played out right on this thread.