Mother of Paris suicide bomber says her son 'did not mean to kill anyone'

[westwall]

The Palestinians were. They were getting money from Saddam, the Saudis, and Qatar.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/isrl-pa/ISRAELPA1002-06.htm

What does that have to do with this grieving mother? Nobody is saying what he did was justified. Only that his mother might be having a hard time accepting what he did.

Read my QUESTION. It was a question. Not a statement of fact. Learn the difference.

You strike me as someone who knows where to use a question mark, but there aren't any in your post.

"I wonder"..... The start of my post. English must be a second language for you....

I wonder how a rational man can fall for all the right wing lies, but that is a statement of what I do, not a question.

What lies have I fallen for? Be specific.

 

[BULLDOG]

What does that have to do with this grieving mother? Nobody is saying what he did was justified. Only that his mother might be having a hard time accepting what he did.

Read my QUESTION. It was a question. Not a statement of fact. Learn the difference.

You strike me as someone who knows where to use a question mark, but there aren't any in your post.

"I wonder"..... The start of my post. English must be a second language for you....

I wonder how a rational man can fall for all the right wing lies, but that is a statement of what I do, not a question.

What lies have I fallen for? Be specific.

So you finally admit you asked no question?
I have no desire to repeat a previous discussion with you. You chose to ignore facts, so it's a waste of time.

 

[westwall]

Read my QUESTION. It was a question. Not a statement of fact. Learn the difference.

You strike me as someone who knows where to use a question mark, but there aren't any in your post.

"I wonder"..... The start of my post. English must be a second language for you....

I wonder how a rational man can fall for all the right wing lies, but that is a statement of what I do, not a question.

What lies have I fallen for? Be specific.

So you finally admit you asked no question?
I have no desire to repeat a previous discussion with you. You chose to ignore facts, so it's a waste of time.

Where did I say that? My my you resort to outright lies PDQ don't you. And I agree, you don't discuss anything. You dissemble, obfuscate, and just outright lie, when you get backed into a corner. Good to know.

 

[BULLDOG]

You strike me as someone who knows where to use a question mark, but there aren't any in your post.

"I wonder"..... The start of my post. English must be a second language for you....

I wonder how a rational man can fall for all the right wing lies, but that is a statement of what I do, not a question.

What lies have I fallen for? Be specific.

So you finally admit you asked no question?
I have no desire to repeat a previous discussion with you. You chose to ignore facts, so it's a waste of time.

Where did I say that? My my you resort to outright lies PDQ don't you. And I agree, you don't discuss anything. You dissemble, obfuscate, and just outright lie, when you get backed into a corner. Good to know.

Well........that is an opinion, and I will give it all the consideration it deserves.

 

[Mr. H.]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

nice derail, H.

Your aversion to my assertion is your desertion.

Don't play games with me, lest I spank thee.

 

[BULLDOG]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

 

[Mr. H.]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

This is why us Republicans champion the pre-aborted. So that they may be slain by authoritarian figures, criminals, or nature later in their lives.

We're in it for the speculative sport. We've even got bookies in Vegas who are placing odds on un-aborted babies.

 

[BULLDOG]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

This is why us Republicans champion the pre-aborted. So that they may be slain by authoritarian figures, criminals, or nature later in their lives.

We're in it for the speculative sport. We've even got bookies in Vegas who are placing odds on un-aborted babies.

I'm really not sure if that is a joke.

 

[Mr. H.]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

This is why us Republicans champion the pre-aborted. So that they may be slain by authoritarian figures, criminals, or nature later in their lives.

We're in it for the speculative sport. We've even got bookies in Vegas who are placing odds on un-aborted babies.

I'm really not sure if that is a joke.

It's actually a bitch-slap upside your ass for making the Skittles remark.

Grow up and grow a pair.

 

[BULLDOG]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

This is why us Republicans champion the pre-aborted. So that they may be slain by authoritarian figures, criminals, or nature later in their lives.

We're in it for the speculative sport. We've even got bookies in Vegas who are placing odds on un-aborted babies.

I'm really not sure if that is a joke.

It's actually a bitch-slap upside your ass for making the Skittles remark.

Grow up and grow a pair.

If you say so. I just thought it was more crazy right wing crap

 

[Mr. H.]

If only she were an American. Her son would have died before he was born.

Abortionssavelife.com

Either that,or a cop would have killed him for eating skittles.

This is why us Republicans champion the pre-aborted. So that they may be slain by authoritarian figures, criminals, or nature later in their lives.

We're in it for the speculative sport. We've even got bookies in Vegas who are placing odds on un-aborted babies.

I'm really not sure if that is a joke.

It's actually a bitch-slap upside your ass for making the Skittles remark.

Grow up and grow a pair.

If you say so. I just thought it was more crazy right wing crap

Hey- that's MISTER crazy right wing crap to you, bub.

 

[Mr. H.]

I AM right wing crap.

Hear me ROAR.

 

[Mr. H.]

I will insert my fingers into Liberals' eye sockets and gouge out their pupil membranes.

Fear me. Detest me. Just don't test me on common core math.

 

[pwjohn]

Are there any intelligent muslims in this world.? Hang them all.

Mother of Paris bomber says her son did 'not mean to kill anyone'

nov 17 2015 The mother of a Paris suicide bomber says her son 'did not mean to kill anyone' - and claims he may have blown himself up because of stress, while a third son said his family were 'thinking of the victims'.

Ibrahim Abdeslam, 31, launched a solo attack outside the cafe Comptoir Voltaire, close to the scene of the Bataclan concert hall massacre on Friday night.

Today Ibrahim's mother suggested his suicide jacket may have gone off by accident and said he could have carried out the attack because he was 'stressed'.

Of course she said that. She is a mother whose child just died. Very few mothers are capable of seeing their children as anything but basically good people no matter how terrible they really are.

This particular mother is probably a fan of terrorism. If the article is accurate, statements made by her suggests that she is familiar with both terrorist tactics and the weapons they rely on during an attack

 

[ninja007]

not too great of a job raising your kid lady.

 

[Conservative65]

And what of perfectly nice people who just happen to raise, without them knowing it, a monster? Shall we hang all three of them together? Where, by chance, is this Personal Responsibility you speak so highly of?

Daddy shot someone so now you aren't allowed to own guns? That's the path you are suggesting...

Perfectly nice people almost never have children who are thugs. My son is 17 and a very good student. The last thing that could happen to him is become a thug. That, plus he goes to a very good school in CZ where there are no thugs, just a couple of kids who smoke a little pot.

He is not in an inner-city school with thug parents. Do you get it?

Do you know who else had the perfect family, childhood and education? One of the most prolific serial killers - Ted Bundy.

Your kid can fall in with the wrong crowd anytime anywhere. Stop bullshitting yourself.

Bundy was an illigitamate kid rasied by his mother and a stepfather who showed signs of antisocial behavior in his teens. He was what he was because no one could convenience of him otherwise. Bundy fell into to no crowd, He was no street person, rather an intellectual student and a bit of an aristocrat which is why his crimes are infamous.

There is little in common there.

You totally missed the point.

But that's expected.

That's what lack of emotion

Sorry about your cousin.

Did your cousin die as a result of strapping a bomb to his back? It makes a difference.

Not in terms of irrationality, denial and predictable grief for the mother and siblings he left behind.

Grieving is hard. Especially for a child. And its usually unmanageable for a while. As Paint said, this woman probably isn't in her right mind. And frankly, shouldn't be. She just lost her son.

That her son is a mass murderer only makes it worse. As she has both the shock of his death and the horrible acts he committed to deal with. Denial is pretty predictable, at least in the short term.

And thanks about my cousin. It doesn't effect me personally, as we weren't that close. But its going to hollow out my aunt. And we are close.

It does make a difference. If you cousin died due to no action of his own, it's expected. This woman's son died because of his own stupid actions and she wants to make excuses for him.

As a volunteer at the local fire department in my community, I run lots of traffic accidents. I can't count the number of times I've seen drunk drivers wrap themselves and their car around a tree killing them While it's my responsibility to lessen the situation and incident control, I don't feel sorry for any of them. As for their family that had nothing to do with it, sympathy is extended to the point that they start making excuses.

Cold hearted.

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What does that have to do with this grieving mother? Nobody is saying what he did was justified. Only that his mother might be having a hard time accepting what he did.

She's not grieving, you fool. No doubt she's proud of her son for killing westerners. Of course she won't say that.

Losing a child isn't losing a job or not getting the pony you wanted for your birthday. Its about as significant a loss as we people can endure. Its unnatural in the intensity of its grief, as we're not meant to bury children. But parents.c.

White christians look at kids that way but not muslims or minorities. To them kids are just objects to be molested or a way to boost their welfare check.

I really hope your kids one day get to read everything you wrote on here so that they can proceed to never ever speak to you again ... gross.

Yeah, if I ever have doubts on which side of the political spectrum I picked.....all I have to do is read the angry, hateful shit pouring out of many of our board's conservatives. And I'm instantly comfortable with my choice.

Me either. I keep hearing all the excuses you bleeding hearts pour out for any situation and it confirms that I made the correct choice.

 

[Conservative65]

Are there any intelligent muslims in this world.? Hang them all.

Mother of Paris bomber says her son did 'not mean to kill anyone'

nov 17 2015 The mother of a Paris suicide bomber says her son 'did not mean to kill anyone' - and claims he may have blown himself up because of stress, while a third son said his family were 'thinking of the victims'.

Ibrahim Abdeslam, 31, launched a solo attack outside the cafe Comptoir Voltaire, close to the scene of the Bataclan concert hall massacre on Friday night.

Today Ibrahim's mother suggested his suicide jacket may have gone off by accident and said he could have carried out the attack because he was 'stressed'.

Of course she said that. She is a mother whose child just died. Very few mothers are capable of seeing their children as anything but basically good people no matter how terrible they really are.

This particular mother is probably a fan of terrorism. If the article is accurate, statements made by her suggests that she is familiar with both terrorist tactics and the weapons they rely on during an attack

I hope the idiots that give her a pass aren't arguing that she didn't have any idea how bad of a person he really was.

 

[Conservative65]

The Palestinians were. They were getting money from Saddam, the Saudis, and Qatar.

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/isrl-pa/ISRAELPA1002-06.htm

What does that have to do with this grieving mother? Nobody is saying what he did was justified. Only that his mother might be having a hard time accepting what he did.

Read my QUESTION. It was a question. Not a statement of fact. Learn the difference.

You strike me as someone who knows where to use a question mark, but there aren't any in your post.

"I wonder"..... The start of my post. English must be a second language for you....

I wonder how a rational man can fall for all the right wing lies, but that is a statement of what I do, not a question.

It's not a wonder how you lefties can fall for the shit you believe. When you keep your heads up your ass and see shit, you think it's normal to support it.

 

[Conservative65]

White christians look at kids that way but not muslims or minorities. To them kids are just objects to be molested or a way to boost their welfare check.

I really hope your kids one day get to read everything you wrote on here so that they can proceed to never ever speak to you again ... gross.[/QUOTE]

how do you know?

I've comforted two moms through the loss of their child. Its a brutal, cruel process that involves unmanageable periods of naked grief. Worse, my cousin was killed last night. In a few hours I'll be heading up the hill to offer the same time and consideration for my aunt.

And I won't hold any stupid shit she might say against her. She just lost her oldest son.

Sorry about your cousin.

Did your cousin die as a result of strapping a bomb to his back? It makes a difference.

Not in terms of irrationality, denial and predictable grief for the mother and siblings he left behind.

Grieving is hard. Especially for a child. And its usually unmanageable for a while. As Paint said, this woman probably isn't in her right mind. And frankly, shouldn't be. She just lost her son.

That her son is a mass murderer only makes it worse. As she has both the shock of his death and the horrible acts he committed to deal with. Denial is pretty predictable, at least in the short term.

And thanks about my cousin. It doesn't effect me personally, as we weren't that close. But its going to hollow out my aunt. And we are close.

It does make a difference. If you cousin died due to no action of his own, it's expected. This woman's son died because of his own stupid actions and she wants to make excuses for him.

As a volunteer at the local fire department in my community, I run lots of traffic accidents. I can't count the number of times I've seen drunk drivers wrap themselves and their car around a tree killing them While it's my responsibility to lessen the situation and incident control, I don't feel sorry for any of them. As for their family that had nothing to do with it, sympathy is extended to the point that they start making excuses.

Cold hearted.

Maybe you missed the part about how the only person that was killed was the DRUNK DRIVER. If the person CHOOSES to drive drunk, it's their fault.

 

[Conservative65]

It doesn't have to be argumentative.

Expecting an adult to act like an adult isn't unrealistic

When the standards of 'adult' are rationality and logic......yes it is unrealistic when they've just lost a child.

Grieving people aren't in their right mind. You're expecting them to act as if they are. That's not how it works.

The standard for being an adult is being able to act that way even when things don't work in your favor.

I expect people to act as adults.

Wow, absolute lack of empathy.

More like an expectation of people acting like adults.

I'm sorry, darling, but that expectation itself is not very 'adult' at all.

Should adults expect other adults to act like kids? Is that what you are suggesting?