MTP: Climate Change Discussion - no Deniers

[flacaltenn]

I know you criticize NASA. They sent a man to the man and brought him back (multiple times).

You don't know jack shit about what I criticize... Always supported the space program to some extent. We're talking about a small cadre of people holed up in the "GISS" NASA office headed by political APPOINTEES who are RABID enviro-nauts. Like James Hansen.. The activist in a labcoat that gave CBS news the "excuse and cover" to show a graphic with our oceans BOILING and the graphic 212 degrees on top of it..
+IN FACT, I'm in GREAT company poking at them, since there was a letter signed about 1998 by over 20 top NASA former scientists and astronauts SIMILARLY criticizing their campaign of FEAR and purposely distorting the science of Global Warming.. Those folks you admire for GETTING us to the moon and back.
Kinda arrogant about attacking me when there's so much you DON'T know..

James Hansen was NOT a political appointee. From his Wikipedia article:

Early life and education
Hansen was born in Denison, Iowa, to James Ivan Hansen and Gladys Ray Hansen.[9] He was trained in physics and astronomy in the space science program of James Van Allen at the University of Iowa. He obtained a B.A. in Physics and Mathematics with highest distinction in 1963, an M.S. in Astronomy in 1965 and a Ph.D. in Physics in 1967, all three degrees from the University of Iowa. He participated in the NASA graduate traineeship from 1962 to 1966 and, at the same time, between 1965 and 1966, he was a visiting student at the Institute of Astrophysics at the University of Kyoto and in the Department of Astronomy at the University of Tokyo. He then began work at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in 1967.[10]

Career
After graduate school, Hansen continued his work with radiative transfer models, attempting to understand the Venusian atmosphere. He later applied and refined these models to understand the Earth's atmosphere, and in particular, the effects that aerosols and trace gases have on Earth's climate. His development and use of global climate models has contributed to the further understanding of the Earth's climate. In 2009 his first book, Storms of My Grandchildren, was published.[11] In 2012 he presented the TED Talk "Why I must speak out about climate change".[12]

From 1981 to 2013, he was the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, a part of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

As of 2014, Hansen directs the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions at Columbia University's Earth Institute.[13] The program is working to continue to "connect the dots" from advancing basic climate science to promoting public awareness to advocating policy actions.

Hansen is representing his granddaughter as well as "future generations" as plaintiffs in the Juliana v. United States lawsuit, which is suing the United States government and some of its executive branch's positions for not protecting a stable climate system.

Fine.. Even his former supervisor, one of those who signed the NASA condemnation of GISS practice of stoking FEAR about the climate says he was an embarrassment to NASA and should have been muzzled..

 

[Sun Devil 92]

We're talking about a small cadre of people holed up in the "GISS" NASA office headed by political APPOINTEES who are RABID enviro-nauts.

Scientologists, flat earthers, antivaxxers and creationists also invoke TheGreatConspiracyoftheElites. It's standard cultist behavior.

This is why it's so good to be part of the reality-based community. We never have to retreat behind bizarre conspiracy theories. If reality disagrees with our politics, we change our politics to match reality. To win, we merely have to point at reality.

Like James Hansen.. The activist in a labcoat that gave CBS news the "excuse and cover" to show a graphic with our oceans BOILING and the graphic 212 degrees on top of it.

We talk about the data, because we can. You attack people, because you can't talk about the data.

+IN FACT, I'm in GREAT company poking at them, since there was a letter signed about 1998 by over 20 top NASA former scientists and astronauts SIMILARLY criticizing their campaign of FEAR and purposely distorting the science of Global Warming.. Those folks you admire for GETTING us to the moon and back.
Kinda arrogant about attacking me when there's so much you DON'T know..

So exactly when did you abandon rationality in favor of cult-induced paranoia?

What data and what do you know about it ?

You said you understood science......based on what ?

Are you a chemist ? A physicist ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

t's what they have to do when they perceive someone has a serious threat to their fairy tale

Bwahahaha....as if you bunch of uneducated slobs weeping on the internet is a serious threat or challenge to any scientific theory....

Bwahahaha.....as if you had a valid scientific theory to threaten.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I know you criticize NASA. They sent a man to the man and brought him back (multiple times).

You don't know jack shit about what I criticize... Always supported the space program to some extent. We're talking about a small cadre of people holed up in the "GISS" NASA office headed by political APPOINTEES who are RABID enviro-nauts. Like James Hansen.. The activist in a labcoat that gave CBS news the "excuse and cover" to show a graphic with our oceans BOILING and the graphic 212 degrees on top of it..
+IN FACT, I'm in GREAT company poking at them, since there was a letter signed about 1998 by over 20 top NASA former scientists and astronauts SIMILARLY criticizing their campaign of FEAR and purposely distorting the science of Global Warming.. Those folks you admire for GETTING us to the moon and back.
Kinda arrogant about attacking me when there's so much you DON'T know..

Being both arrogant and ignorant...is what defines the left wing.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

t's what they have to do when they perceive someone has a serious threat to their fairy tale

Bwahahaha....as if you bunch of uneducated slobs weeping on the internet is a serious threat or challenge to any scientific theory....

BTW: I'll put up my education against yours any day of the week.

 

[Crick]

The only education you can put up here is whatever is displayed in the knowledge of your comments. Comments such as that are a road in the wrong direction.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The only education you can put up here is whatever is displayed in the knowledge of your comments. Comments such as that are a road in the wrong direction.

By all means, tell us what it is that qualifies you to be the arrogant idiot you are.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The only education you can put up here is whatever is displayed in the knowledge of your comments. Comments such as that are a road in the wrong direction.

That's like saying water tastes like water.

Please try it again.

 

[Indeependent]

t's what they have to do when they perceive someone has a serious threat to their fairy tale

Bwahahaha....as if you bunch of uneducated slobs weeping on the internet is a serious threat or challenge to any scientific theory....

BTW: I'll put up my education against yours any day of the week.

Please do ask the Internet PhD about his credentials.

 

[SSDD]

t's what they have to do when they perceive someone has a serious threat to their fairy tale

Bwahahaha....as if you bunch of uneducated slobs weeping on the internet is a serious threat or challenge to any scientific theory....

The threat to the hypothesis...do learn the difference between theory and hypothesis...hell that is in the dictionary...anyway, the threat to the hypothesis is the lack of evidence to support it.

 

[Crick]

"The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch

 

[jc456]

The only education you can put up here is whatever is displayed in the knowledge of your comments. Comments such as that are a road in the wrong direction.

and what qualifies you as a judge and deciding factor?

 

[Crick]

The same that qualifies you I'm afraid.

 

[jc456]

The same that qualifies you I'm afraid.

so you have no scientific degree to be judge? color me surprised.

 

[Crick]

As I have stated on many occasions, I have a BSc in Ocean Engineering. What I meant was that given our anonymity here, we all have only the qualifications we can prove via the knowledge we display in our posts.

 

[jc456]

As I have stated on many occasions, I have a BSc in Ocean Engineering. What I meant was that given our anonymity here, we all have only the qualifications we can prove via the knowledge we display in our posts.

so when is it you will be displaying the knowledge of CO2 actually warming the atmosphere?

 

[Crick]

I don't believe I have to as Billy Bob, SSDD and their idol Dr William Happer, have already explained it to us. CO2 absorbs LWIR radiated from the Earth's surface. It then very most likely loses that energy with a collision with other molecules of the air. That WARMS the air it collides with.

 

[jc456]

QUOTE="Crick, post: 21604281, member: 48966"]I don't believe I have to as Billy Bob, SSDD and their idol Dr William Happer, have already explained it to us. CO2 absorbs LWIR radiated from the Earth's surface. It then very most likely loses that energy with a collision with other molecules of the air. That WARMS the air it collides with.[/QUOTE]
then very most likely

that doesn't mean it does right? and you have no hot spot, so you still fail. It must suck to fail every time you post something.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

QUOTE="Crick, post: 21604281, member: 48966"]I don't believe I have to as Billy Bob, SSDD and their idol Dr William Happer, have already explained it to us. CO2 absorbs LWIR radiated from the Earth's surface. It then very most likely loses that energy with a collision with other molecules of the air. That WARMS the air it collides with.

then very most likely

that doesn't mean it does right? and you have no hot spot, so you still fail. It must suck to fail every time you post something.[/QUOTE]

that doesn't mean it does right?

Warm CO2 colliding with N2 doesn't warm the N2?
Why not?

 

[Crick]

It has always sucked to try to teach you anything JC. That's why I've just given up.